they teach math backwards in Australia.
- j.boyd919

Hooooold up! They teach math in Australia?

1. I'm not your boy
2. No one likes you
3. We're not here because of you, because see #2
4. I've been a fan of the Penguins and an active member of the Pens blog before you signed up, so go (frank) yourself.
- jmatchett383

hahaha

I kind of want Washington. They just seem a little slower. They don't run around trying to crush the opponent like Cbus does although they still do some of that. Panarin scares the sh*t out of me too.

It's kind of a coin flip however.
- madmike71

Columbus is not dead yet and I feel like we still can beat them in a 7 game series. Washington is waking up their best players after being down 0-2 in the series. Talent wise Wash is better but Cbus is better all around.

Well it’s easier playing hockey when you don’t have those clunky Stanley Cup Rings affecting the grip of your stick. Hahaha
- Rinosaur

LOL

Schultz is a very good player. I'm glad we re-signed him for 3 years. He's a better PP QB than Letang and has a booming shot.

Columbus is not dead yet and I feel like we still can beat them in a 7 game series. Washington is waking up their best players after being down 0-2 in the series. Talent wise Wash is better but Cbus is better all around.
- Barnaby36

I just think the goaltending is the major difference. Bobrovsky CAN come up big at times, but overall he's average in the playoffs.

Bobrovsky's career playoff numbers: 22 Games played 3.41GAA with a .896%
Holtby's career playoff numbers: 62 Games played 1.97 with a .932%

Even though Holtby has a much larger sample size, he's never even been close to Bob's numbers. Bobrovsky is a terrible playoff goalie.

Gimme CBJ any day of the week.

LOL

Schultz is a very good player. I'm glad we re-signed him for 3 years. He's a better PP QB than Letang and has a booming shot.
- Barnaby36

All jokes aside Provorov looks to be a higher pedigree than Schultz, but I love Schultz and he was an absolute steal for the Pens. He's been great for the Pens.

some more fancy stats for ya MattStrat.

Second Oleksiak/Schultz one has bigger sample size for Schultz since he's more comparable to Ghost/Prov.
- j.boyd919

I was very wrong about Schultz being better D-wise than Ghost, this past regular season anyway. I still think the Pens lack luster effort and battle levels for a lot of games this season are skewing these fancy stats for said season. Take a look at these charts after this series is done (if possible) for just the series (if possible) and they will tell a completely different tale....the Pens are trying their hardest now. They are battling almost every shift.

EDIT: Also one of those charts for Olekisak is only 16 games and the other 26...

Please just end this tonight. Work hard to get some rest and hope Caps/Jacks goes to 7.

I was very wrong about Schultz being better D-wise than Ghost, this past regular season anyway. I still think the Pens lack luster effort and battle levels for a lot of games this season are skewing these fancy stats for said season. Take a look at these charts after this series is done (if possible) for just the series (if possible) and they will tell a completely different tale....the Pens are trying their hardest now. They are battling almost every shift.
- MattStrat

The Pens biggest defensive issues this year have not come due to personnel IMO. As the tired saying goes, "they need to get to their game." These last two cup teams didn't play the standard type of defense hockey that you get from a team like Nashville or MIN when you have a good amount of defensively sound dmen.

In their own zone they played aggressive and attack to keep players to the perimeter which limited quality shots.

The Pens thrived defensively by playing TEAM defense that involved puck support and an aggressive attack that didn't overplay pucks. This year they play too deep and overplay pucks. If they can get away from that they will be fine which they've been starting to do.

I was very wrong about Schultz being better D-wise than Ghost, this past regular season anyway. I still think the Pens lack luster effort and battle levels for a lot of games this season are skewing these fancy stats for said season. Take a look at these charts after this series is done (if possible) for just the series (if possible) and they will tell a completely different tale....the Pens are trying their hardest now. They are battling almost every shift.
- MattStrat

Of course they will, at most it would be a 7 game sample size. Incredibly small. The Schultz one was over 2 seasons combined, and didn't change much which tells me he was very similar last season. He's still good, just not Ghost good. Not a knock on Schultz at all who's definitely had a career Renaissance in the Burgh.

Of course they will, at most it would be a 7 game sample size. Incredibly small. The Schultz one was over 2 seasons combined, and didn't change much which tells me he was very similar last season. He's still good, just not Ghost good. Not a knock on Schultz at all who's definitely had a career Renaissance in the Burgh.
- j.boyd919

I understand the sample size but I think you're missing my point of the team as a whole raising the play and effort level. This is actually when it matters, the stats.

Of course they will, at most it would be a 7 game sample size. Incredibly small. The Schultz one was over 2 seasons combined, and didn't change much which tells me he was very similar last season. He's still good, just not Ghost good. Not a knock on Schultz at all who's definitely had a career Renaissance in the Burgh.
- j.boyd919

Schultz is still no Danny DeKeyser though.

I was very wrong about Schultz being better D-wise than Ghost, this past regular season anyway. I still think the Pens lack luster effort and battle levels for a lot of games this season are skewing these fancy stats for said season. Take a look at these charts after this series is done (if possible) for just the series (if possible) and they will tell a completely different tale....the Pens are trying their hardest now. They are battling almost every shift.

EDIT: Also one of those charts for Olekisak is only 16 games and the other 26...
- MattStrat

I know, I pointed out that Schultz's sample size was bigger. On the contrary, you just asked for a chart of 7 game sample size vs. one team.

Schultz is still no Danny DeKeyser though.
- Feds91Stammer

We should be so lucky

I just think the goaltending is the major difference. Bobrovsky CAN come up big at times, but overall he's average in the playoffs.

Bobrovsky's career playoff numbers: 22 Games played 3.41GAA with a .896%
Holtby's career playoff numbers: 62 Games played 1.97 with a .932%

Even though Holtby has a much larger sample size, he's never even been close to Bob's numbers. Bobrovsky is a terrible playoff goalie.

Gimme CBJ any day of the week.
- Rinosaur

This too ^

I'd rather face Bobo than Holtby/Grubauer.

This too ^

I'd rather face Bobo than Holtby/Grubauer.
- Barnaby36

Yup. If MM were to have a wonky series against WSH and Holtby plays strong, it could spell the end. On the other hand, I think we could get a weak performance from Murray against CBJ and still win because of Bobs.

I know, I pointed out that Schultz's sample size was bigger. On the contrary, you just asked for a chart of 7 game sample size vs. one team.
- j.boyd919

hahah wasnt so much asking, more so saying lets have a look if we can.

In no shape or form do I think overall that Oleksiak or Schultz are better than Ghost or Prov, they are superior players and they're also younger, which is scary....but I did think that Schultz was a little better in his own end than Ghost...and besides those charts I still think it.

All jokes aside Provorov looks to be a higher pedigree than Schultz, but I love Schultz and he was an absolute steal for the Pens. He's been great for the Pens.
- Rinosaur

I think Schultz is very smart with the puck and is not a liability defensively. He's a perfect fit in Pittsburgh.

The thing with young guys is that they'll skate hard all around like Provorov and Gostsbehere do. They are talented too so do the math.

I'm fine with Schultz and hope Letang can regain his confidence.

On a side note: Dumoulin is a re-born. Totally different player from the regular season. Maybe he's watched some Määttä's tapes

Schultz is still no Danny DeKeyser though.
- Feds91Stammer

Is this guy any good? Schultz is very good. Edmonton is a F'd UP organization.

Today is the last day of my old job and the first elimination game of the series... coincidence?

Letang can regain his confidence.
- Barnaby36

Did I miss something and Letang has not played well?

hahah wasnt so much asking, more so saying lets have a look if we can.

In no shape or form do I think overall that Oleksiak or Schultz are better than Ghost or Prov, they are superior players and they're also younger, which is scary....but I did think that Schultz was a little better in his own end than Ghost...and besides those charts I still think it.
- MattStrat

Schultz is solid, I like having Schultz on the Pens. Especially after seeing him hammered. I don't think he's bad by any means.

hahah wasnt so much asking, more so saying lets have a look if we can.

In no shape or form do I think overall that Oleksiak or Schultz are better than Ghost or Prov, they are superior players and they're also younger, which is scary....but I did think that Schultz was a little better in his own end than Ghost...and besides those charts I still think it.
- MattStrat

Me too. The Penguins are a different team in the playoffs. Let them spend all their energy when it matters least.

Good luck giving out 6-7 million contracts to those two D-men.

I think Schultz is very smart with the puck and is not a liability defensively. He's a perfect fit in Pittsburgh.

The thing with young guys is that they'll skate hard all around like Provorov and Gostsbehere do. They are talented too so do the math.

I'm fine with Schultz and hope Letang can regain his confidence.

On a side note: Dumoulin is a re-born. Totally different player from the regular season. Maybe he's watched some Määttä's tapes
- Barnaby36

Tanger has been a stud all series. Dude is a PPG player right now while munching minutes against the oppositions best, with a positive goal differential at 5v5. Aside from a few mistakes, there's nothing wrong with Letang, every player makes those mistakes.

Today is the last day of my old job and the first elimination game of the series... coincidence?
- Rinosaur

Hahah congrats on your new job and enjoy it tonight.