Also the Flyers won't need a Goalie if Carter Hart turns into what he's projected to be. He's very good.
- tomburton99

Couple years out though, and still just potential. For now

Carter Hutton is career backup. He'll also be 33 next year.
- tomburton99

But Hutton is the more agile and better reactionary goalie there than Allen is despite his age, who relies on angular play with pucks hitting him more so. Allen also is prone to giving up five hole goals, and goals below his pads when dropping straight down on the ice.
Hutton's age is not a factor with his play, other than giving him additional years of experience. He could start 40 games for some appropriate NHL team and still be successful for another 3 seasons at the least.

But Hutton is the more agile and better reactionary goalie there than Allen is despite his age, who relies on angular play with pucks hitting him more so. Allen also is prone to giving up five hole goals, and goals below his pads when dropping straight down on the ice.
Hutton's age is not a factor with his play, other than giving him additional years of experience. He could start 40 games for some appropriate NHL team and still be successful for another 3 seasons at the least.
- RangerSaver

He's not. He went on a nicle little run this year, just like Grubauer, like Kinkaid etc. This is the first year he's had a save percentage of .920 or better. He only started 26 games. He's a 33 year old back up.

still a lot to give up for Hamilton IMO

dont think he makes you that much better for all the pieces youre giving up
- mrn22

But when you look at it it’s not terrible. Vesey or Nam are career 3rd liners. Andersson will be very good and those 20+ 1sts have a 50/50 chance of playing over 100 career NHL games.

You actually should move one of Hayes or Zibanejad bacause of the cap and they are both young enough to get a good return. But you have no idea how that works, so we move on.
- tomburton99

I could care less and don’t this this would actually happen, just talking fantasy world on an internet blog. Go back to ur corsi books.

Saver, baby, let me hear how right I was about the tank and Rebuild. Give it to me baby.
- tomburton99

You were right about the "tank", but wrong about the "rebuild". It's officially a "re-tool", confirmed even greater in the past 24 hours as per Larry Brrok's and Jan's words here, since you would never believe that if anyone else said it anywhere.

He's not. He went on a nicle little run this year, just like Grubauer, like Kinkaid etc. This is the first year he's had a save percentage of .920 or better. He only started 26 games. He's a 33 year old back up.
- tomburton99

Mike Yeo in not using him more especially from March through the season's end, ("like Kinkaid" was used by your Devils), may have his job in jeopardy there. Many in St. Louis were calling for that, as well as other NHL media other than in St.Louis questioning his goalie deployment choice, which cost them a postseason spot by only 1 point, as I wrote shortly earlier today in a reply to another member.

I could care less and don’t this this would actually happen, just talking fantasy world on an internet blog. Go back to ur corsi books.
- nyrangers9479

Corsi, wherw in the playoffs it's proving to be reliable. Vegas outshots LA, they won. Winnipeg on the Wild, Winnipeg up 3-1, Nashville over Colorado, based on shots. I could do this all day my man.

Corsi, wherw in the playoffs it's proving to be reliable. Vegas outshots LA, they won. Winnipeg on the Wild, Winnipeg up 3-1, Nashville over Colorado, based on shots. I could do this all day my man.
- tomburton99

Really? 'Cause I look at it like, Vegas, Winnipeg and Nashville are the better teams, who are playing tough, physical and limiting their mistakes. That's why they're winning. Not sure why you need numbers and equations to see it. And this is coming from a math guy.

Really? 'Cause I look at it like, Vegas, Winnipeg and Nashville are the better teams, who are playing tough, physical and limiting their mistakes. That's why they're winning. Not sure why you need numbers and equations to see it. And this is coming from a math guy.
- Tonybere

Really? 'Cause I look at it like, Vegas, Winnipeg and Nashville are the better teams, who are playing tough, physical and limiting their mistakes. That's why they're winning. Not sure why you need numbers and equations to see it. And this is coming from a math guy.
- Tonybere

So shots dont matter?

So shots dont matter?
- tomburton99

Depends on the shots, doesn't it? Shoot lots from the outside without guys in front and you're going to have a nice looking Corsi (have at it, Jim), aren't you? You aren't going to win, though.
People are so caught up in this metrics bullpoop, that they ignore so much of what has been known for decades. Play tight defense, make the smart pass instead of looking for the high risk, high reward option, stay close and support your team mates, play tough when called for and go to the front of the net hard. Gets results a lot more often than not.
Now dazzle me with your snappy retort.

Depends on the shots, doesn't it? Shoot lots from the outside without guys in front and you're going to have a nice looking Corsi (have at it, Jim), aren't you? You aren't going to win, though.
People are so caught up in this metrics bullpoop, that they ignore so much of what has been known for decades. Play tight defense, make the smart pass instead of looking for the high risk, high reward option, stay close and support your team mates, play tough when called for and go to the front of the net hard. Gets results a lot more often than not.
Now dazzle me with your snappy retort.
- Tonybere

LA outhit Vegas, fyi. Good?

LA outhit Vegas, fyi. Good?
- tomburton99

Did I say out hit your opponent? I said play tough, physical and limit your mistakes. We all know that running around hitting for the sake of hitting can be a mistake.

I'm not sure you can say anything that will make me doubt that I know the game of hockey.

Did I say out hit your opponent? I said play tough, physical and limit your mistakes. We all know that running around hitting for the sake of hitting can be a mistake.

I'm not sure you can say anything that will make me doubt that I know the game of hockey.
- Tonybere

And your telling me nothing on why out-shooting shouldn't be considered imporntant.

And your telling me nothing on why out-shooting shouldn't be considered imporntant.
- tomburton99

Out-shooting your opponent isn't important. Out-scoring them is.
(frank)ing Corsi. Shots for the sake of shots.
Take the shot when it's a good opportunity. Make the pass when it's a better opportunity. Hold the puck if possible when there isn't a good opportunity. Get it deep when options A, B and C aren't available and go fight like hell to get it back. Then repeat.
If you (general, not you in particular) don't understand when it's the right time for A, B or C, numbers ain't gonna help you learn. Try baseball.

Out-shooting your opponent isn't important. Out-scoring them is.
(frank)ing Corsi. Shots for the sake of shots.
Take the shot when it's a good opportunity. Make the pass when it's a better opportunity. Hold the puck if possible when there isn't a good opportunity. Get it deep when options A, B and C aren't available and go fight like hell to get it back. Then repeat.
If you (general, not you in particular) don't understand when it's the right time for A, B or C, numbers ain't gonna help you learn. Try baseball.
- Tonybere

The best way to score is too...shoot.

The best way to score is too...shoot.
- tomburton99

The best way to score is to take quality shots.

The best way to win isn't always winning the shot battle.

The best way to score is to take quality shots.

The best way to win isn't always winning the shot battle.
- Pete V

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

Out-shooting your opponent isn't important. Out-scoring them is.
(frank)ing Corsi. Shots for the sake of shots.
Take the shot when it's a good opportunity. Make the pass when it's a better opportunity. Hold the puck if possible when there isn't a good opportunity. Get it deep when options A, B and C aren't available and go fight like hell to get it back. Then repeat.
If you (general, not you in particular) don't understand when it's the right time for A, B or C, numbers ain't gonna help you learn. Try baseball.
- Tonybere

Gotta Agree with Tony here. Stats will only ever tell you part of a story
Take For instance shots on goal:

Corsi can not tell you the difference between 20 shots from the point vs 20 shots from the point where a goalie is screened or distracted.

It can't tell you the difference between 20 shots from a specific point on the ice when the player is stationary or 20 shots form that exact same spot when the player is skating 25mph towards, the goalie, or laterally across the goalies sight line

But watching a game, a team taking the latter of both shots in the example above will have a better chance of scoring in both cases.

sure sounds like Dolan wants to go with someone out of the box from that interview
- jimbo83

Granato might be a good hire: Played for the Rangers, asst. coach with the Pens, coaches in college now.

The best way to score is too...shoot.
- tomburton99

So, not sure if you're being intentionally dense or not (don't really care), but please tell me that you understand that some times the best way to score is to pass. You can imagine that scenario, right? If you have a guy wide open on the back door for a tap in and you shoot, because Corsi tells you that shooting is always good, and you don't score, how is that helping you win? If you make the pass, and your team mate taps it in, then there is still a shot, but now there is a goal to be statistically categorized as well. You're Corsi may not go up, but your team benefits, right?

So, not sure if you're being intentionally dense or not (don't really care), but please tell me that you understand that some times the best way to score is to pass. You can imagine that scenario, right? If you have a guy wide open on the back door for a tap in and you shoot, because Corsi tells you that shooting is always good, and you don't score, how is that helping you win? If you make the pass, and your team mate taps it in, then there is still a shot, but now there is a goal to be statistically categorized as well. You're Corsi may not go up, but your team benefits, right?
- Tonybere

Hayes knows this

Hayes knows this
- mdw7413

You're not helping, not at all

So, not sure if you're being intentionally dense or not (don't really care), but please tell me that you understand that some times the best way to score is to pass. You can imagine that scenario, right? If you have a guy wide open on the back door for a tap in and you shoot, because Corsi tells you that shooting is always good, and you don't score, how is that helping you win? If you make the pass, and your team mate taps it in, then there is still a shot, but now there is a goal to be statistically categorized as well. You're Corsi may not go up, but your team benefits, right?
- Tonybere

You corsi does go up. That's the point.