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ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Apr 19 @ 3:45 PM ET
You should check out the Pens blog, apparently Couturier is the dirtiest player of the series
- Doctor DOOM


And now Konecny is the dirtiest
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Apr 19 @ 3:45 PM ET
What are we speed dating now?
- outpost316


you like Green Oaks?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 19 @ 3:52 PM ET
And now Konecny is the dirtiest
- ajw12


They have some of the most delusional fans on the planet.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 19 @ 3:52 PM ET
What's the price to get to #3 or #4 if the lottery doesn't change order?

*we know that's not happening*
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 19 @ 3:54 PM ET
What's the price to get to #3 or #4 if the lottery doesn't change order?

*we know that's not happening*

- dragonoffrost

both 1sts+?

doesn't happen very often
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 19 @ 3:55 PM ET
What's the price to get to #3 or #4 if the lottery doesn't change order?

*we know that's not happening*

- dragonoffrost

a really good player
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 19 @ 3:58 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Simmonds last game as a Flyer is Friday.

As for Voracek, trading him and that contract is a little more involved. He just came off a very productive season so we have that going for us.

I don't see them trading both.

I am now firmly in the "fire Hakstol" (the whole coaching staff) camp.

- MBFlyerfan

You're not alone in this feeling. I just believe it's one or the other. Hakstol goes or a couple stars go.

In the case of Voracek's deal. If a team wants Voracek, they'll make the money work.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 19 @ 4:05 PM ET
Here is my rational reply, point by point.


I'm not against a trade of Simmonds in the right deal. However I am against trading just to trade him.



Depends on the cost in total, which means all of the factors such as what they have to do to create the roster space. If Elliott hadn't gotten hurt or the timing of it had been better, he would've been fine. I'm not against going with Elliott again next season. I don't trust Neuvirth at all though.



I'd have no issue bringing Manning back as a 7th defenseman. Could do a lot worse.



Not in disagreement there. The PK has to be improved. No two ways about it.



FA availability is slim. Would be nice if someone internally could step up and take the spot. They will beed a replacement for Filppula.



I don't want to see Weise play another game in a Flyers uniform. Young players need to step up and seize the spots.

- MJL


so we basically agree i just didn't take the time to go as in depth
if we can get riley nash i would be over the moon happy. perfect 3c
in regards to simmer i agree the return has to be good or not worth it
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Apr 19 @ 4:14 PM ET
a really good player
- YuenglingJagr


what about a player everyone here wants to trade b/c he fell of this year (prolly due to injury) and the crappier first?

i want a Tkachuk for my bday


also....UUUGHHHH i hate penguins fans so much.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 19 @ 4:15 PM ET
what about a player everyone here wants to trade b/c he fell of this year (prolly due to injury) and the crappier first?

i want a Tkachuk for my bday


also....UUUGHHHH i hate penguins fans so much.

- eshake


That's my target too Walt's kid...
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 19 @ 4:19 PM ET
what about a player everyone here wants to trade b/c he fell of this year (prolly due to injury) and the crappier first?

i want a Tkachuk for my bday


also....UUUGHHHH i hate penguins fans so much.

- eshake

I don't think that would do it but it only takes 1 idiot
eshake
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.20.2009

Apr 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
I don't think that would do it but it only takes 1 idiot
- YuenglingJagr


see there you go!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Hey guys, just wanted to say whats up? Man those Pens fans are dummies eh?

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
Hey guys, just wanted to say whats up? Man those Pens fans are dummies eh?


- j.boyd919


Good for you?
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
you're got damn right it is


- Streit2ThePoint


Yo.. i always walk by this stuff.. is it really good? I'm all about that Koshi peanut butter/chocolate granola poop right now.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
Hey guys, just wanted to say whats up? Man those Pens fans are dummies eh?


- j.boyd919


I like the ones showing sympathy for us having to deal with Hak lol.

Also lol at the Pens fans on twitter saying Hak is Johnston + the bad decisions of Bylsma.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:32 PM ET
I like the ones showing sympathy for us having to deal with Hak lol.

Also lol at the Pens fans on twitter saying Hak is Johnston + the bad decisions of Bylsma.

- JFlyers00


I dunno. I like G, Ghost, Provorov, and Jake. Hate the team but I can still enjoy watching the things they do on the ice. I personally don’t think the flyers are that far off from making legit noise. They’ve got a really good core. I don’t know enough about Hak but it seems like everyone hates him. New coach and A few new players and the Flyers will be competing by next year. But one Pens fan said Ghost and Provorov aren’t as good as Oleksiak sooo... you guys are kinda (frank)ed. God. He’s such a moron. Hahahaha
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 19 @ 4:34 PM ET
sign a 3c


- bulet13


FA availability is slim. Would be nice if someone internally could step up and take the spot. They will beed a replacement for Filppula.


replace read and weise with some well performing lehigh kids
- bulet13


I don't want to see Weise play another game in a Flyers uniform. Young players need to step up and seize the spots.

- MJL

I don't see enough of LH to know. Are there any forwards legitimately ready for the NHL? I hear Vechionne's, Vorobyev's and Aube-Kubel's name. Are they the type of bottom six player that the Flyers seem to need. Fast, physical, tough to play against, can chip in points, play the PK?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:38 PM ET
so we basically agree i just didn't take the time to go as in depth
if we can get riley nash i would be over the moon happy. perfect 3c
in regards to simmer i agree the return has to be good or not worth it

- bulet13


Nash would be a real strong add to the team but he is not going to come cheap.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:41 PM ET
I don't see enough of LH to know. Are there any forwards legitimately ready for the NHL? I hear Vechionne's, Vorobyev's and Aube-Kubel's name. Are they the type of bottom six player that the Flyers seem to need. Fast, physical, tough to play against, can chip in points, play the PK?
- FlyerFan16


I'm not the best person to answer that. I'm like you, I hear names and talk. I also don't think the fans are the best source for that info either.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
I dunno. I like G, Ghost, Provorov, and Jake. Hate the team but I can still enjoy watching the things they do on the ice. I personally don’t think the flyers are that far off from making legit noise. They’ve got a really good core. I don’t know enough about Hak but it seems like everyone hates him. New coach and A few new players and the Flyers will be competing by next year. But one Pens fan said Ghost and Provorov aren’t as good as Oleksiak sooo... you guys are kinda (frank)ed. God. He’s such a moron. Hahahaha
- j.boyd919


The Flyers future is bright, they're just not a good match against a playoff tested, veteran team. They don't need a new coach, there is just a lot of frustration with the series.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Apr 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
I dunno. I like G, Ghost, Provorov, and Jake. Hate the team but I can still enjoy watching the things they do on the ice. I personally don’t think the flyers are that far off from making legit noise. They’ve got a really good core. I don’t know enough about Hak but it seems like everyone hates him. New coach and A few new players and the Flyers will be competing by next year. But one Pens fan said Ghost and Provorov aren’t as good as Oleksiak sooo... you guys are kinda (frank)ed. God. He’s such a moron. Hahahaha
- j.boyd919


I'm a firm believer that this team is going to be really good soon and for a long time. I'm not going to let the past few games get me down too much.

Hakstol sucks and is totally lost and clueless. Seems as though he's trying to get fired if the lineup changes suggested by today's practice stick.

Lappy (PK coach) is way overdue to be fired.

This summer should be very interesting for the Flyers as its about time for them to make some moves for immediate help IMO. With the right moves, I believe they can open the window as soon as next year without sacrificing any of the tail end of it. I don't have much time at the moment so I can't really type out more details.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 19 @ 4:53 PM ET
I don't see enough of LH to know. Are there any forwards legitimately ready for the NHL? I hear Vechionne's, Vorobyev's and Aube-Kubel's name. Are they the type of bottom six player that the Flyers seem to need. Fast, physical, tough to play against, can chip in points, play the PK?
- FlyerFan16

I think they could all play on the Flyers. Least ready is probably Vorobyev, but he might have the highest upside of the three. There isn't anyone else on the Phantoms I would like to see here next year (forwards)
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 19 @ 4:55 PM ET
I'm a firm believer that this team is going to be really good soon and for a long time. I'm not going to let the past few games get me down too much.


- JFlyers00


Agreed on this and it's an attitude that I share.



Hakstol sucks and is totally lost and clueless. Seems as though he's trying to get fired if the lineup changes suggested by today's practice stick.


- JFlyers00


This an extreme overreaction and is just plain fiction. None of the reported lineup changes are anything that would get Hextall to even consider firing Hakstol for a millisecond.



Lappy (PK coach) is way overdue to be fired.


- JFlyers00


They need to improve the PK. I personally think it's far more about the players but a change needs to be made. A new voice and fresh ideas on the PK would be a start.


This summer should be very interesting for the Flyers as its about time for them to make some moves for immediate help IMO. With the right moves, I believe they can open the window as soon as next year without sacrificing any of the tail end of it. I don't have much time at the moment so I can't really type out more details.

- JFlyers00


It will take longer than that. The Flyers are possibly looking at a defense corp made up of Provorov, a 3rd year player, Gostisbehere who is young, a 2nd year player in Hagg, Sanheim who is yet to play a full NHL season, and Morin, an NHL rookie.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Apr 19 @ 4:56 PM ET
They have some of the most delusional fans on the planet.
- Ftown19125

BUT for some reason they can have nice things
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