That's how champions play boys. And what a gutless performance by the Flyers. The cowardly cheap shot at the end pretty much sums up everything they are about at their core. I can't wait to eliminate this sorry excuse for a team. Good riddance.
- Emperor Filonius

Imagine paying Giroux and Voracek a combined 16.5 mil to mail that performance in.

#teetime

Honest question: would you trade Guentzel for Patrick straight up?

I see Patrick's ceiling as a B.Schenn type.
- Barnaby36

thats tough and a good hypothetical.
i think patrick has a much higher ceiling, but jake is already pretty accomplished now. i dont know that jake is going to develop into a guy who can carry his own line.

i think if im the pens, i can see the argument for not doing that deal right now. jake gives you the best chance right now, although part of me is inclined to view patrick as a nice bridge for when the crosby/malkin years wind down.

conversely if i am the flyers i dont even entertain jake for patrick.

He skated one last shift and looked fine. Bobby Clark on the other hand excused himself to the bathroom and rubbed one off.
- madmike71

Honest question: would you trade Guentzel for Patrick straight up?

I see Patrick's ceiling as a B.Schenn type.
- Barnaby36

I don’t know man, Schenn’s really coming into his own these days and centers are always more useful than wings.

Imagine paying Giroux and Voracek a combined 16.5 mil to mail that performance in.

#teetime
- madmike71

Just scanned through the Flyers comments section. They can't decide whether they are more angry or embarrassed.

Just scanned through the Flyers comments section. They can't decide whether they are more angry or embarrassed.
- Emperor Filonius

I think some of them thought based off how close the teams finished points-wise in the reg season for this to be a more competitive series than whats taken place.
A couple were predicting Philly in six or seven which seems pretty irrational before and even more so now.

Just scanned through the Flyers comments section. They can't decide whether they are more angry or embarrassed.
- Emperor Filonius

Probably both. That was one of the softest, disinterested, sissy-mary performances I've ever seen from a playoff team......any team.

They are paying Girioux and Voracek superstar type money and those two skated around like they couldn't wait to get to their post game hot tub.

Honest question: would you trade Guentzel for Patrick straight up?

I see Patrick's ceiling as a B.Schenn type.
- Barnaby36

If im the Pens, I don't (G has been money in da playoffs and electric with Sid)
but if I am any other team, I'd take Patrick in a heartbeat if it only involved moving someone like G

Probably both. That was one of the softest, disinterested, sissy-mary performances I've ever seen from a playoff team......any team.

They are paying Girioux and Voracek superstar type money and those two skated around like they couldn't wait to get to their post game hot tub.
- madmike71

It reminded me a lot of how we played against the B’s in ‘13.

If im the Pens, I don't (G has been money in da playoffs and electric with Sid)
but if I am any other team, I'd take Patrick in a heartbeat if it only involved moving someone like G
- DeflatedPucks

yeah this exactly.

Probably both. That was one of the softest, disinterested, sissy-mary performances I've ever seen from a playoff team......any team.

They are paying Girioux and Voracek superstar type money and those two skated around like they couldn't wait to get to their post game hot tub.
- madmike71

Agreed on all counts. They had about 2 shifts where they were really starting to build some momentum and then Kessel scored, and their whole team just mailed it in. There's a difference between getting beat by a deeper team and just laying down....and then delivering a gutless cheap shot with less than 2 minutes to go. I remember the first playoff series of the Crosby/Malkin era vs that Ottawa team that went to the finals. The Pens just weren't ready to play at Ottawa's level and lost in 5 games. They were clearly overmatched and everyone knew it, but they didn't mail it in like this.

I think some of them thought based off how close the teams finished points-wise in the reg season for this to be a more competitive series than whats taken place.
A couple were predicting Philly in six or seven which seems pretty irrational before and even more so now.
- DeflatedPucks

You have to hope your team can win, even when logically they are overmatched. I get that. I picked Pens in 5, but I expected the games would be a lot more competitive. By all rights the Pens should have won game 2 as well. That was the most bizarre game I've ever attended.

It reminded me a lot of how we played against the B’s in ‘13.
- Victoro311

Yes and no. We were definitely a perimeter team and got pushed around, but I never felt the Pens didn't try. The Flyers looked like they didn't try tonight.

It reminded me a lot of how we played against the B’s in ‘13.
- Victoro311

Yes and no. We were definitely a perimeter team and got pushed around, but I never felt the Pens didn't try. The Flyers looked like they didn't try tonight.
- madmike71

I don’t know I felt like we mailed in at least two if not three of those games.

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- DeflatedPucks

Meh... Trade him. Jarry and DeSmith are better anyway.

I have to think they sit Hornqvist next game and let him rest.

It reminded me a lot of how we played against the B’s in ‘13.
- Victoro311

I remember out playing the B's for long stretches in those games and that series but just not being able to score. The not being able to score disintegrated their composure.

Got to hope the boys finish this round quick on Saturday (my time).

Letang is looking awful in this series (no surprise from me). His goal - that was tipped in by the Flyers anyway - was nice and typical of him from that spot on the ice, but had no real bearing on the game outcome one way or another. The job he's doing as a defenseman is horrible...period. His constant turnovers, lack of attention and casual play is a bigger negative for the team than any positive his offense brings. Just because he can bring some offense and can occasionally score, doesn't allow a defenseman to be such a glaring liability defensively. Simply put; the Penguins are not offensively challenged enough to justify his value or his penchant for bad defensive play.

His behind the net blunder in the 1st period was what directly led to the sustained attack, momentum, and scoring opportunities the Flyers had for about 3 straight minutes before the Pens scored with the Kessel goal. Anyone who saw Sullivan's reaction to this knows I'm not the only one PO'd about him. His lazy turnovers when 5 on 5 and on the PP are inexcusable for a player making the kind of coin his is and logging the minutes he does.

Like I said before the trade deadline, they would be a better team if the traded him and kept Cole. If the Pens don't repeat this season, it will be more about what Letang does wrong than what he does right. IMO. Being a defenseman and limiting the other teams scoring chances and ability to create, is more important than creating your own, especially on a team as offensively stacked as the Pens are.

Letang is looking awful in this series (no surprise from me). His goal - that was tipped in by the Flyers anyway - was nice and typical of him from that spot on the ice, but had no real bearing on the game outcome one way or another. The job he's doing as a defenseman is horrible...period. His constant turnovers, lack of attention and casual play is a bigger negative for the team than any positive his offense brings. Just because he can bring some offense and can occasionally score, doesn't allow a defenseman to be such a glaring liability defensively. Simply put; the Penguins are not offensively challenged enough to justify his value or his penchant for bad defensive play.

His behind the net blunder in the 1st period was what directly led to the sustained attack, momentum, and scoring opportunities the Flyers had for about 3 straight minutes before the Pens scored with the Kessel goal. Anyone who saw Sullivan's reaction to this knows I'm not the only one PO'd about him. His lazy turnovers when 5 on 5 and on the PP are inexcusable for a player making the kind of coin his is and logging the minutes he does.

Like I said before the trade deadline, they would be a better team if the traded him and kept Cole. If the Pens don't repeat this season, it will be more about what Letang does wrong than what he does right. IMO. Being a defenseman and limiting the other teams scoring chances and ability to create, is more important than creating your own, especially on a team as offensively stacked as the Pens are.
- NJPensfan

I think ur being a little irrational, hes been a little too easy come easy go but the guy had his fvcking bell rung twice in the same play im suprised hes still kicking, ill take a couple mistakes hes moved the puck up pretty well

Letang is looking awful in this series (no surprise from me). His goal - that was tipped in by the Flyers anyway - was nice and typical of him from that spot on the ice, but had no real bearing on the game outcome one way or another. The job he's doing as a defenseman is horrible...period. His constant turnovers, lack of attention and casual play is a bigger negative for the team than any positive his offense brings. Just because he can bring some offense and can occasionally score, doesn't allow a defenseman to be such a glaring liability defensively. Simply put; the Penguins are not offensively challenged enough to justify his value or his penchant for bad defensive play.

His behind the net blunder in the 1st period was what directly led to the sustained attack, momentum, and scoring opportunities the Flyers had for about 3 straight minutes before the Pens scored with the Kessel goal. Anyone who saw Sullivan's reaction to this knows I'm not the only one PO'd about him. His lazy turnovers when 5 on 5 and on the PP are inexcusable for a player making the kind of coin his is and logging the minutes he does.

Like I said before the trade deadline, they would be a better team if the traded him and kept Cole. If the Pens don't repeat this season, it will be more about what Letang does wrong than what he does right. IMO. Being a defenseman and limiting the other teams scoring chances and ability to create, is more important than creating your own, especially on a team as offensively stacked as the Pens are.
- NJPensfan

What do you know? You never played hahah jk...just teasing ya from what you were saying about journalists (and all of us) the other day...

I dont think Letang has been as bad as you're implying though. He's had some stand out gaffes no doubt, and last night was probably his worse game of the series so far, but I'd be more interested in seeing Phillys scoring chances and shot locations while he's on the ice not to mention corsi and all that jazz. Its really easy to remember blatant gaffes and a goal but its the everything in between I'm more concerned with, really. The Pens did just win two games on the road in the playoffs with only one goal scored on them all with Letang leading TOI by a long shot.

Not going to lie, its shocking to see the Flyers just fold... I was waiting the whole time for someone to take a cheap shot at Malkin or Crosby.

In all actuality, this is probably a good thing for Hextall. They need a blow it up rebuild and the way Giroux, Vorachek and Simmonds have all played he will have the full support of the fan base to do so. I would not be surprised at all to see Giroux playing for the Montreal Canadiens next year.

On the flip side, Patrick looks like he is going to be a great player if he can stay healthy long term. He and Couturier will make an nice 1-2 down the middle for the Flyers.

Letang is looking awful in this series (no surprise from me). His goal - that was tipped in by the Flyers anyway - was nice and typical of him from that spot on the ice, but had no real bearing on the game outcome one way or another. The job he's doing as a defenseman is horrible...period. His constant turnovers, lack of attention and casual play is a bigger negative for the team than any positive his offense brings. Just because he can bring some offense and can occasionally score, doesn't allow a defenseman to be such a glaring liability defensively. Simply put; the Penguins are not offensively challenged enough to justify his value or his penchant for bad defensive play.

His behind the net blunder in the 1st period was what directly led to the sustained attack, momentum, and scoring opportunities the Flyers had for about 3 straight minutes before the Pens scored with the Kessel goal. Anyone who saw Sullivan's reaction to this knows I'm not the only one PO'd about him. His lazy turnovers when 5 on 5 and on the PP are inexcusable for a player making the kind of coin his is and logging the minutes he does.

Like I said before the trade deadline, they would be a better team if the traded him and kept Cole. If the Pens don't repeat this season, it will be more about what Letang does wrong than what he does right. IMO. Being a defenseman and limiting the other teams scoring chances and ability to create, is more important than creating your own, especially on a team as offensively stacked as the Pens are.
- NJPensfan

Letang is going to be fine. Yes, he made a few gaffes in a game that was more like pond hockey than playoff hockey. He scored more goals than the Flyers last night so not sure what you are freaking out about.

The Pens D actually looks pretty nice right now. I love the way Maata plays the game and this year he is actually healthy. Oleksiak was an amazing pickup. Yes, Cole would be nice for the bottom pair but they are still good enough to win.