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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 18 @ 2:38 PM ET
Thats' another take I have to laugh at. Foligno's play on Myers unfortunately ended in an injury. There was no intent to do anything but take Myers out of the play. Too many people acting like it was some malicious hit.

The only thing to be understood is that poop happens when the ref's start swallowing whistles. If penalties are properly called, the poop happens with much less frequency.

Dirty play or accident, a cross check to the head should be automatic suspension. Any play targeting the head should be automatic suspension.

- MnGump


you said the same thing when Matt Cooke went after knees in the playoffs. So your hockey takes are tainted

Boom roasted
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 18 @ 2:39 PM ET
What are your thoughts on facial or neck licking?
- glove_was_stuck

drawing a blank at the moment...
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
you said the same thing when Matt Cooke went after knees in the playoffs. So your hockey takes are tainted

Boom roasted

- DDM-Coga

Oooh... Ouch
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 18 @ 2:44 PM ET
I have to say that what I thought when I looked at the video...

was aiming for the shoulder...missed...happened fast and mostly I do not care for either team...

- Xizord


Tell that to Marty McSorley. Aiming for a shoulder and missing got him suspended for over a year, and ended his career.

This isn't that bad, obviously, but the point is don't dismiss the incident because of the intent. He delivered a vicious cross check to the head. It's a suspension.



2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Apr 18 @ 2:49 PM ET
Thats' another take I have to laugh at. Foligno's play on Myers unfortunately ended in an injury. There was no intent to do anything but take Myers out of the play. Too many people acting like it was some malicious hit.

The only thing to be understood is that poop happens when the ref's start swallowing whistles. If penalties are properly called, the poop happens with much less frequency.

Dirty play or accident, a cross check to the head should be automatic suspension. Any play targeting the head should be automatic suspension.

- MnGump


The Foligno play that was suspension worthy was the reckless/unintentional check to the head of Trouba in the 1st period of game 3. No one is really talking about the Myers check anymore, generally accepted as an odd play.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Apr 18 @ 2:50 PM ET
Tell that to Marty McSorley. Aiming for a shoulder and missing got him suspended for over a year, and ended his career.

This isn't that bad, obviously, but the point is don't dismiss the incident because of the intent. He delivered a vicious cross check to the head. It's a suspension.

- Monkeypunk


It's a suspension, 1 and maybe two games. Not as bad as Kadri hit.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Apr 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Oooh... Ouch

- MnGump


Its ok we both will be enjoying 1st round eliminations together Friends for Life
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 18 @ 2:51 PM ET
Intent is hard to judge here, but whether he meant to do it or not shouldn't matter.

Fact is he did it. You crosscheck a guy in the face/neck area you deserve a suspension. Period. It's not rocket science.

- BINGO!


totally agree. Intent doesn't matter for a high stick - it's your stick, you're in charge of where it lands. Learn to control it better if you don't want those calls made against you.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 18 @ 2:52 PM ET
Tell that to Marty McSorley. Aiming for a shoulder and missing got him suspended for over a year, and ended his career.

This isn't that bad, obviously, but the point is don't dismiss the incident because of the intent. He delivered a vicious cross check to the head. It's a suspension.

- Monkeypunk


oh my... seriously dude stop the Q-tip Before you hit resistance

McSorley swung his stick like a baseball from behind...to compare this whit a front of the net clearing attemps that we see a 1000 time a game is well ( insert non nice thing about you here)
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 18 @ 2:56 PM ET
It's a suspension, 1 and maybe two games. Not as bad as Kadri hit.
- 2.0


"Not as bad as" is a tough statement because everything is so situational and result-oriented.

The intent is there with Kadri because he had the time to recognize that Wingels had gone down, and he had the subsequent opportunity to alter his course or minimize the impact. He did neither.

Morrissey demonstrates reckless use of his stick in front. If that hits the shoulder, or high arm (as he likely intended), it's not a big deal.

It's probably just 1 game. I thought Kadri would get 2, though.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 18 @ 3:01 PM ET
oh my... seriously dude stop the Q-tip Before you hit resistance

McSorley swung his stick like a baseball from behind...to compare this whit a front of the net clearing attemps that we see a 1000 time a game is well ( insert non nice thing about you here)

- Xizord


I also have Youtube on my Internets. I also watched the play a billion times when it happened. I stand by what I've always felt. McSorley was never a dirty player. He was trying to goad Brashear into a fight. Brashear was skating away after declining to fight (having dusted him twice already that game), and McSorley was trying to get his attention. The INTENT of the swing was to hit his arm and get him to turn around. Instead, it pings into Brashear's temple.

My point was not to compare these instances (because one was absolutely horrific), but rather to illustrate that the intent doesn't change the incident.
DixieDog
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 04.18.2018

Apr 18 @ 3:12 PM ET
I will assume by most comments on this post that nobody saw the Nino Niederreiter head butt to Chiarot I believe it was..
If you feel so strongly about shots to the head being punished then let's count all accidental and purposely done head shots.
Anyone who thinks Nino didn't do that on purpose,either has never played hockey or is not too bright lol
With all that being said...this is the first playoffs in a long time I am sincerely watching stress free seeing as my boys failed to make the playoffs.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Apr 18 @ 3:13 PM ET
after what foligno got away with.

Thats just the breaks

- DDM-Coga

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Apr 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
What are your thoughts on facial or neck licking?
- glove_was_stuck

CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Apr 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
I will assume by most comments on this post that nobody saw the Nino Niederreiter head butt to Chiarot I believe it was..
If you feel so strongly about shots to the head being punished then let's count all accidental and purposely done head shots.
Anyone who thinks Nino didn't do that on purpose,either has never played hockey or is not too bright lol
With all that being said...this is the first playoffs in a long time I am sincerely watching stress free seeing as my boys failed to make the playoffs.

- DixieDog


Totally agree with you on this.

Everything except your name, this town only has room for one Dog and not a Chicago pixie dog.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Apr 18 @ 3:36 PM ET
I also have Youtube on my Internets. I also watched the play a billion times when it happened. I stand by what I've always felt. McSorley was never a dirty player. He was trying to goad Brashear into a fight. Brashear was skating away after declining to fight (having dusted him twice already that game), and McSorley was trying to get his attention. The INTENT of the swing was to hit his arm and get him to turn around. Instead, it pings into Brashear's temple.

My point was not to compare these instances (because one was absolutely horrific), but rather to illustrate that the intent doesn't change the incident.

- Monkeypunk

And I'll just add:

Brashear was wearing a Gretzky Jofa helmet, and he was wearing it too loose.

I don't really give two poops about the length of McSorley's suspension - truth be told, his career was already over - the guy was horrible at that point.

But if the league has a rule that helmets must be worn, then they should make sure that players wear them properly.

I'm not a doctor, but in my humble opinion, Brashear skates off the ice if he is wearing a proper helmet, fitted properly.

Simply put: guys wear their helmets too loose. It drives me franking nuts when I see a guy take a good shot, and his helmet pops like a jack in the box.
twpguy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2010

Apr 18 @ 3:40 PM ET
This is what happens when you sissify a league. You want fighting gone, put a STUPID instigator rule in, don't come crying when cheap shots too the head happen. Players on the team can't go after dirty players because the league is SISSIFIED
MnGump
Minnesota Wild
Location: Columbus, MN
Joined: 06.21.2012

Apr 18 @ 3:48 PM ET
Its ok we both will be enjoying 1st round eliminations together Friends for Life
- DDM-Coga

Waddya talking about? Av's heating up!!!
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Apr 18 @ 3:50 PM ET
And I'll just add:

Brashear was wearing a Gretzky Jofa helmet, and he was wearing it too loose.

I don't really give two poops about the length of McSorley's suspension - truth be told, his career was already over - the guy was horrible at that point.

But if the league has a rule that helmets must be worn, then they should make sure that players wear them properly.

I'm not a doctor, but in my humble opinion, Brashear skates off the ice if he is wearing a proper helmet, fitted properly.

Simply put: guys wear their helmets too loose. It drives me franking nuts when I see a guy take a good shot, and his helmet pops like a jack in the box.

- Atomic Wedgie


They'll wear extra padding from the shoulders down, but ask them to protect their brains is like pulling teeth. Weird mentality. From skate fenders, elbow pads, the slash guards on the gloves, but ask them to wear their helmet, visor, or mouth guard properly -no way.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
I also have Youtube on my Internets. I also watched the play a billion times when it happened. I stand by what I've always felt. McSorley was never a dirty player. He was trying to goad Brashear into a fight. Brashear was skating away after declining to fight (having dusted him twice already that game), and McSorley was trying to get his attention. The INTENT of the swing was to hit his arm and get him to turn around. Instead, it pings into Brashear's temple.

My point was not to compare these instances (because one was absolutely horrific), but rather to illustrate that the intent doesn't change the incident.

- Monkeypunk


Well our legal system disagree with you...

To me Staal just sold an accident well... Very yellow Stone comes to mind when PK slashed him...sold it like a soccer player !
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Apr 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Well our legal system disagree with you...

To me Staal just sold an accident well... Very yellow Stone comes to mind when PK slashed him...sold it like a soccer player !

- Xizord

No suspension, accident according to Player safety
AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:40 PM ET
Minimum 5 games. Still can't believe the ref missed it. Fans should've littered the ice with garbage.
AlfieFever
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Well our legal system disagree with you...

To me Staal just sold an accident well... Very yellow Stone comes to mind when PK slashed him...sold it like a soccer player !

- Xizord


The lumberjack chop? Seriously? He only got a game misconduct.

In today's NHL he would've been suspended. Crosby's finger chop on Methot changed the mindset.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Apr 18 @ 4:43 PM ET
Well our legal system disagree with you...

To me Staal just sold an accident well... Very yellow Stone comes to mind when PK slashed him...sold it like a soccer player !

- Xizord


Really? Our legal system agrees completely with me.

I didn't intend to hit someone in the head with my stick, but I did = I am guilty of hitting them in the head with my stick.

I intended to hit someone in the head with my stick and I did = I am guilty of hitting them in the head with my stick - and intending to.

I intended to hit someone in the head with my stick - but I didn't . . .is the only gray area. Sometimes you can be guilty for the attempt, and sometimes you aren't.

Here's the one where you're safe:

I didn't want to hit someone in the head with my stick and I didn't.

For reference: Morrissey is not in the last category.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Apr 18 @ 4:47 PM ET
"The refs looked at it and they decided not to call it because we were already on the power play," Wild head coach Bruce Boudreau said.

Sadly, this is correct.

Hockey is the only franking sport in the entire franking world where a referee sees an infraction, then quickly asks the following:

- what is the score?
- how much time is left in the game?
- how many penalties have I already called on Team A?
- how many penalties have I already called on Team B?
- how good a player is the transgressor?
- how good a player is the victim?
- how late in the season/post-season is this game being played?

It's a complex mathematical formula - more complex than the Buzztron 2000 - which ultimately determines if it is a penalty or not.

Cross-check to the face in front of the net? Sorry, it's already a powerplay in a playoff game - no penalty.

It's a franking joke.

- Atomic Wedgie


This is 100% accurate.

One team can have 5 penalties due to lack of discipline, and for whatever reason the Refs have to try to even out the penalties the other way in some "makeup" call bullpoop.

The disciplined team gets penalized for the other teams stupidity 80% of the time, it can be frustrating as hell to watch year in and year out.
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