Yep and ..

Goaltending will make or break the season . Also need the competent back up .

Will ullmark be the #1 ? or backup ? Good chance they shuffle back and forth with whoever we sign.
- cabin

Back in the day:
Having a competent goalie gives you a mental advantage. These guys must hate playing with these 2 turds in net. Maybe even lose the love of the game.

I know 4 season ticket holders. None of them female dog. They're all very pragmatic about their investment and where the team is. Boss seems to be pretty understanding of the whole thing.

I think schopp and his ilk just female dog. I would go a step further and say that people without seasons usually have louder opinions about "the Pegulas stealing your money"
- jcragcrumple

Lots of season tickets are held by companies and written off. Not just the suites

Back in the day:
Having a competent goalie gives you a mental advantage. These guys must hate playing with these 2 turds in net. Maybe even lose the love of the game.
- Boss34

Good chance . I wanted to give Lenher the chance .. I did. Ended around the end of January. Time for a change .

You're assuming a relocation. Never happen. As exhibits A-C Arizona, Carolina, Florida.
- Wetbandit1

Tickets are going to be hot. Sabres are part of our fabric.

Were about to start a 8 year run with jack.

If there were only 5,000 people going to the game, he would have every right to move

You also need the Sports package to get Fox Sports 1. It doesn't deter people from tuning into the Baseball playoffs in October. The league needs to give people a reason to watch, and it just doesn't exist. The networks paid, or are paying, their $2 billion for the TV rights They're locked in. Their job now is to maximize profits (or minimize losses). The fact is USA's ratings for Suits is just as good or if not better than Tampa-New Jersey. The same goes for CNBC and whatever new show they are airing right now. Sports fans will watch Golf when Tiger Woods is competitive whether Golf is on CBS, Fox, the Golf Channel or HLN, not just golf fans. The same goes for the NBA when LeBron James is playing. It's up to the league to compel viewers to watch. Merely putting it on a channel in the 100s instead of one in the 400s won't get that done, and NBC Universal knows that.
- buffalofan19

Baseball can afford to do that though. That's my point. A league that struggles for ratings can't add obstacles and expect results. It's a fatalistic approach. "(frank) it, no one's going to watch anyway, so let's just put it on a property that only diehard sports fans will have."

They do a piss poor job of advertising for hockey. I see more commercials for F1 than I do for hockey. The only time I see commercials for hockey is when I'm watching hockey. I see commercials for F1 all over the place.

Lots of season tickets are held by companies and written off. Not just the suites
- cabin

There are a lot, but it's not the majority, not in a city like this, which simply just doesn't have that big of a corporate footprint. The reality is the Sabres are the only game in town after the turn of the new year, and everyone knows it, and so do the Pegulas. That's not to say they aren't trying to win, but it does nothing to change the urgency.

Good chance . I wanted to give Lenher the chance .. I did. Ended around the end of January. Time for a change .
- cabin

That's what happened with me too. I was onboard, and then one game this year, I just went "nah. This isn't it"

I know 4 season ticket holders. None of them female dog. They're all very pragmatic about their investment and where the team is. Boss seems to be pretty understanding of the whole thing.

I think schopp and his ilk just female dog. I would go a step further and say that people without seasons usually have louder opinions about "the Pegulas stealing your money"
- jcragcrumple

Yeah, I'm not saying they all do. I'm just saying the ones that do and continue to cut the checks are stupid and aren't thinking logically.

I get it to an extent, but at what point is it "shame on me"?

That's what happened with me too. I was onboard, and then one game this year, I just went "nah. This isn't it"
- jcragcrumple

glad you saw the light

Baseball can afford to do that though. That's my point. A league that struggles for ratings can't add obstacles and expect results. It's a fatalistic approach. "(frank) it, no one's going to watch anyway, so let's just put it on a property that only diehard sports fans will have."

They do a piss poor job of advertising for hockey. I see more commercials for F1 than I do for hockey. The only time I see commercials for hockey is when I'm watching hockey. I see commercials for F1 all over the place.
- Wetbandit1

Good point . only see hockey on local news after a game and its only Sabres news.
Other than that , I have to go to NHL.com for it

glad you saw the light


- homiedclown

Yeah, I'm not saying they all do. I'm just saying the ones that do and continue to cut the checks are stupid and aren't thinking logically.

I get it to an extent, but at what point is it "shame on me"?
- Wetbandit1

That way they get to have it both ways. They get to female dog and keep their seats for when we are inevitably good again so they can say "I never gave up!"

There are a lot, but it's not the majority, not in a city like this, which simply just doesn't have that big of a corporate footprint. The reality is the Sabres are the only game in town after the turn of the new year, and everyone knows it, and so do the Pegulas. That's not to say they aren't trying to win, but it does nothing to change the urgency.
- buffalofan19

Yep, and if people wanted to change it, they'd have to take drastic action, which at this point they're unwilling to do. I don't know it's kind of like female dogging about the person you elected, that they suck, but will still elect them next time. And I'm not talking about the current situation, that poop has been going on forever.

I guess some people just need to female dog about things. I guess I just need to female dog about people who female dog about things.

That way they get to have it both ways. They get to female dog and keep their seats for when we are inevitably good again so they can say "I never gave up!"
- jcragcrumple

And you know Schoop will be first in that line.

I can just hear the drunkards calling in and saying the same thing.

glad you saw the light


- homiedclown

I thinks Botts has too.

I don't see any way the sabres give him $4m next year

Baseball can afford to do that though. That's my point. A league that struggles for ratings can't add obstacles and expect results. It's a fatalistic approach. "(frank) it, no one's going to watch anyway, so let's just put it on a property that only diehard sports fans will have."

They do a piss poor job of advertising for hockey. I see more commercials for F1 than I do for hockey. The only time I see commercials for hockey is when I'm watching hockey. I see commercials for F1 all over the place.
- Wetbandit1

I see the ads on NBC owned channels all the time (USA, NBC, etc.). I rarely see any cross advertising because its expensive. The reality is, their ratings aren't suffering. The league's problem is that the game just isn't that interesting right now. It's not giving up. It's realizing the product you have and maximizing it with all your other product offerings. When someone pays you $2 billion over 10 years for a product, you allow them to do whatever they want.

The NBA went through the same thing when Jordan retired until LeBron James finally came into the league. Golf ratings went down when Tiger disappeared. The NHL needs to give people a reason to watch, and right now there is very little. That is the real issue here.

There are a lot, but it's not the majority, not in a city like this, which simply just doesn't have that big of a corporate footprint. The reality is the Sabres are the only game in town after the turn of the new year, and everyone knows it, and so do the Pegulas. That's not to say they aren't trying to win, but it does nothing to change the urgency.
- buffalofan19

Got it . Just enough interest to keep it interesting to keep em coming back. Marketing is what a used car salesman is . And the fans are gullible.

Got it . Just enough interest to keep it interesting to keep em coming back. Marketing is what a used car salesman is . And the fans are gullible.
- cabin

It's a decision by the fans. This town has had a waiting list for season tickets, and it's gonna happen again. A fair number probably realize that getting out now might be a bad idea

Seems everyone blames the D on this team . Isn't the goalie the last defense ? When is he held accountable. When you cringe any time the puck is shot from in our zone , it's time to fix it .
Felt the Same with miller in net . Sure enough .

It's a decision by the fans. This town has had a waiting list for season tickets, and it's gonna happen again. A fair number probably realize that getting out now might be a bad idea
- jcragcrumple

Sabres send out packages to every company in WNY. Ive seen it . Lots of them buy into the small packages , some into the large ones.
Bet the Leafs have a waiting list too

Forsberg is nasty...

And you know Schoop will be first in that line.

I can just hear the drunkards calling in and saying the same thing.
- Wetbandit1

I will say that anyone that has sold there tickets for $6 is going to want a mint for tickets, when were good. Especially the scalpers.

I'd rather give them to family and friends

Wonder what a playoff seat would go for against toronto after not sniffing the playoffs for 8 years?

Seems everyone blames the D on this team . Isn't the goalie the last defense ? When is he held accountable. When you cringe any time the puck is shot from in our zone , it's time to fix it .
Felt the Same with miller in net . Sure enough .
- cabin

That's a great point.

Everyone's arguing about ror and risto

It's a decision by the fans. This town has had a waiting list for season tickets, and it's gonna happen again. A fair number probably realize that getting out now might be a bad idea
- jcragcrumple

I know a lot of sth are saying they are done, but saying and doing are 2 different things.

That's a great point.

Everyone's arguing about ror and risto
- Boss34

Have admit i'm a fan of a great offence is the best defense .

But.. Time for some stats in the win column . They count , not GA or SA.