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Brad Marsh Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.13.2017

Apr 18 @ 10:04 PM ET
Question for you, how did the Pens players's stick get up at Read's waist?
- MJL


Are you defending Read there?
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:05 PM ET
I know everyone is on this lets be patient bullpoop.Lets be patient like the oilers,sabres,coyotes etc.You need some balls to build a winner.Hextal left his in his jockstrap when he retired.Enough with the company line.Homer took this team from worst to a semi final in 1 yr.You can get better by getting the right FA.I know Homer also did stupid poop but atleast he tried.Hextall doesnt seem to have an imagination.Wont be long before he gets fired mark my words.
- flyeredup85


Hexy has cap room and prospects ready to play, he cant go out and sign a vet who can't contribute this time. He no longer can take a garbage contract like Lehtera to get more draft picks. He needs better then a Weise signing this summer. The core off this team has been established.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:05 PM ET
Oh well, time to jump on the Jets bandwagon. What says you Flyernutter?
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
Are you defending Read there?
- Brad Marsh Fan


Dont stare into the bright light, you will get burned. You have been warned.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:06 PM ET
The Pens are just better, that’s no surprise. What is a surprise is how passive we are about it. We are an extremely easy team to play against, the hardest check of this series was in practice.

Overall, I am disappointed most with management and coaching this season. Not giving rookies more and bigger roles, the pk (again)and pp, Hex getting awful goalies, poor trades, mind boggling roster and lineup moves, and bad signings. There is no accountability in this organization.

- darkerens

The goalie situation is awful. I commend Hexy for going out and drafting a ton of them but even he knows how long it takes for them to develop. Enough with the band-aids.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Is this better or worse than 2002?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Name me one specific thing that a forward thinking organization does in the NHL?

From the Cambridge dictionary.

https://dictionary.cambri.../english/forward-thinking

Forward thinking.

"The act of thinking about and planning for the future, not just the present"

- MJL


In modern terms it's used as a synonym for things like innovation and progressive ideas. If you want to nitpick, then just replace the word with innovative.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 18 @ 10:07 PM ET
Is this better or worse than 2002?
- SuperSchennBros

Which boner was 2002 again? I get them all confused.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
Get someone to willingly take Val Filppula in a trade?
- hereticpride


Leafs were pretty innovative with their rebuild too
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
Are you defending Read there?
- Brad Marsh Fan


Answer the question.
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
Next season will be Hextall's fifth season as GM and season four for Hakstol. For me personally after a series like this, I would fire Hakstol. Coaches have been fired for a lot less. This looks like a less than inspired team. We're in the playoffs. Why aren't we playing like it?

As for Ron Hextall, show or go!

I absolutely buy into Patrick, Konecny, Provorov, Sanheim and Morin someday being important players for this team. No doubt in my mind. At the same time, what has been done for example to improve this team's depth? You finally got Vinny LeCavalier out and Chris Vandevelde out. Where is the focus and improvement in the bottom six? What is our identity if you want to drop the old broad street bullies identity?

I don't even recognize the Philadelphia Flyers anymore. There is no fight in these guys...and it's sad.

- SuperSchennBros


Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
That’s the only thing that sucks. They are getting embarrassed. But it’s teaching them that in the playoffs, if you don’t come to play, you get crushed.

They will be ready next season.

- Flyers1218


Agreed on your first point. I'm very frustrated that they mailed it in. I wanted them to make the dance to get the experience but I thought it'd be more competitive than this has been. Really surprised. I'm hoping they learn something, because I kind of think you have to put a decent effort forward in order to truly see where you are and learn.
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
Is this better or worse than 2002?
- SuperSchennBros

This is worse.In 2002 atleast they would fight and hit.This team pats crosby on the head and tells him how good he is.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:09 PM ET
I know everyone is on this lets be patient bullpoop.Lets be patient like the oilers,sabres,coyotes etc.You need some balls to build a winner.Hextal left his in his jockstrap when he retired.Enough with the company line.Homer took this team from worst to a semi final in 1 yr.You can get better by getting the right FA.I know Homer also did stupid poop but atleast he tried.Hextall doesnt seem to have an imagination.Wont be long before he gets fired mark my words.
- flyeredup85


I am fine with Hextall not dealing away youth. I do think he could be doing a lot more to help the current roster. His free agent track record is not good. His trades...none jump out and say, wow, I like that move. I mean less then 1 calendar year ago The Vegas Golden Knights didn’t have a single player and yet they are more of a cup contender then the Flyers who will now enter year ? of a retool.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:10 PM ET
In modern terms it's used as a synonym for things like innovation and progressive ideas. If you want to nitpick, then just replace the word with innovative.
- PhillySportsGuy


There is no nit-picking. You're wrong.

Name me one specific thing a forward thinking team in the NHL does?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:11 PM ET
Is this better or worse than 2002?
- SuperSchennBros


Was that the Ottawa series where we scored 2 goals?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
There is no nit-picking. You're wrong.

Name me one specific thing a forward thinking team in the NHL does?

- MJL


The Leafs did a bunch of stuff
RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.27.2018

Apr 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
“Crosby sucks” but I suppose giroux is in the lead at TPC San Antonio with -7
Brad Marsh Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.13.2017

Apr 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Answer the question.
- MJL



Your question lacks relevance. What's lethally relevant, for Read and the Flyers, is that you can't be guilty of a weak stick infraction. My God, even the homer-ish Morganti (when not on WIP) called out Read for the miscue. Neutral zone. Minor battle. Relatively safe area.

Now, all due respect, illuminate me as to how I have this wrong. Bad call? Coincidental minors in your opinion? How do I have it wrong?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
Leafs were pretty innovative with their rebuild too
- PhillySportsGuy

ehhhhh is outright tanking innovative?

The Leafs were hot trash for so long then finally decided to gut the entire organization and were lucky enough to draft an Auston Matthews who immediately became their #1 center. Marner is another great pick but he wasn't really gifted top 6 minutes right away if i remember correctly. even this year Babcock had him on the fourth line for a while.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:13 PM ET
The Leafs did a bunch of stuff
- PhillySportsGuy


Name one specific thing a forward thinking team in the NHL does?
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Apr 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
I am fine with Hextall not dealing away youth. I do think he could be doing a lot more to help the current roster. His free agent track record is not good. His trades...none jump out and say, wow, I like that move. I mean less then 1 calendar year ago The Vegas Golden Knights didn’t have a single player and yet they are more of a cup contender then the Flyers who will now enter year ? of a retool.
- landros 2

I hope this off season he does something to improve the team for now and not compile more picks and get bridge players.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
Name one specific thing a forward thinking team in the NHL does?
- MJL

1-They think forward. Yea, I win!!!
flyeredup85
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 04.05.2012

Apr 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
I am fine with Hextall not dealing away youth. I do think he could be doing a lot more to help the current roster. His free agent track record is not good. His trades...none jump out and say, wow, I like that move. I mean less then 1 calendar year ago The Vegas Golden Knights didn’t have a single player and yet they are more of a cup contender then the Flyers who will now enter year ? of a retool.
- landros 2

Yes thats what im saying.His FA signings are a joke. I want them to go after Tavares make a statement.If he doesnt sign here so be it but atleast you tried.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Apr 18 @ 10:16 PM ET
I am fine with Hextall not dealing away youth. I do think he could be doing a lot more to help the current roster. His free agent track record is not good. His trades...none jump out and say, wow, I like that move. I mean less then 1 calendar year ago The Vegas Golden Knights didn’t have a single player and yet they are more of a cup contender then the Flyers who will now enter year ? of a retool.
- landros 2


I think Hexy is a terrific evaluator of recognizing prospects to draft. However, now is the time for him to prove he can build a contending Cup team with free agent signings and smart hockey trades. We 're at the point where the retool has to be over and being a consistent contender should be starting. A very important summer.
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