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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 12 @ 5:00 PM ET
David Bolland anyone???
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:01 PM ET
I think you're undervaluing Karlsson. It would be ROR, Risto, multiple 1sts for Bobby and Karlsson. Just my guess.
- RhinoFan



That would be utter insanity
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:01 PM ET


Ville Leino

by far the absolute worst!!!!

- hehateme



They both went off the deep end after they hit the jackpot
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
I think you're undervaluing Karlsson. It would be ROR, Risto, multiple 1sts for Bobby and Karlsson. Just my guess.
- RhinoFan


If that trade was made, GMJB would be looking for another job, and soon.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
I think you're undervaluing Karlsson. It would be ROR, Risto, multiple 1sts for Bobby and Karlsson. Just my guess.
- RhinoFan


I think you're overvaluing Karlsson years 5-8 of his next contract are going to have a huge downward swing production wise

I also think you're not realizing how bad that Bobby Ryan contract is

$7.25 million for 4 more years for 33 points per season
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
If that trade was made, GMJB would be looking for another job, and soon.
- kingcong39

History under Pegula says he will be looking for another job next summer anyway.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 5:07 PM ET
History under Pegula says he will be looking for another job next summer anyway.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 5:07 PM ET
Rick Dipietro
- washedup20


Yashin, they just stopped paying him 3 years ago. They paid him in excess of $2M for 8 (frank)ing years, and he counted against the cap after he stopped playing for them. DiPietro is atrocious, and a very close second, but he was a compliance buyout and thus doesn't count against the cap.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
I think you're overvaluing Karlsson years 5-8 of his next contract are going to have a huge downward swing production wise

I also think you're not realizing how bad that Bobby Ryan contract is

$7.25 million for 4 more years for 33 points per season

- Stripes77

Ottawa are going to have to eat half his celery to realistically trade him.

So Bobby Ryan at 3.65 for 4 years isn't so bad looking but I honestly don't want to be anywhere near him and doubt Ottawa trades Karlsson to a division rival.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:09 PM ET
History under Pegula says he will be looking for another job next summer anyway.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Will you please share more of your poor mans wisdom with us today? I need some balance between you and the Gerbster
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:09 PM ET
I think you're overvaluing Karlsson years 5-8 of his next contract are going to have a huge downward swing production wise

I also think you're not realizing how bad that Bobby Ryan contract is

$7.25 million for 4 more years for 33 points per season

- Stripes77



My call to the sens would be Karlsson extended for 8 years at 9.5-10.5 plus Ryan for ROR, Bogo and Okposo and a pick

If not, nah
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 5:10 PM ET
I think you're undervaluing Karlsson. It would be ROR, Risto, multiple 1sts for Bobby and Karlsson. Just my guess.
- RhinoFan


No way, Ottawa is (frank)ed and they know it. And Bobby Ryan has negative value at this point. $7.25M for 4 more years for 11 goals. Yeesh.

Karlsson is gone, it's almost a fact at this point, the Sens have very little leverage. The only way they can get any of that leverage back is if they sign him first.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:11 PM ET
Will you please share more of your poor mans wisdom with us today? I need some balance between you and the Gerbster
- washedup20

Pot, meet kettle.

washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:12 PM ET
Pot, meet kettle.
- BeadyEyedDouche



Always refreshing
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 5:12 PM ET
I was saying current contract

And I forgot lucic

- jcragcrumple


DiPietro is still a current contract. The Isles are still paying him. He "earned" $1.5M this year. And will until 2029. Ok I take back the Yashin thing, DiPietro is the worst, I didn't realize it was for another 11 years, I thought it was only like 5.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
DiPietro is still a current contract. The Isles are still paying him. He "earned" $1.5M this year. And will until 2029. Ok I take back the Yashin thing, DiPietro is the worst, I didn't realize it was for another 11 years, I thought it was only like 5.
- Wetbandit1


Current playing contract, I mean
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
DiPietro is still a current contract. The Isles are still paying him. He "earned" $1.5M this year. And will until 2029. Ok I take back the Yashin thing, DiPietro is the worst, I didn't realize it was for another 11 years, I thought it was only like 5.
- Wetbandit1



I win
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 5:20 PM ET
I win
- washedup20


Yashin did count against the cap for 8 years after playing, that's really bad, but Ricky boy getting paid for twice that amount of time makes up for the fact he doesn't count against the cap, though just.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yashin did count against the cap for 8 years after playing, that's really bad, but Ricky boy getting paid for twice that amount of time makes up for the fact he doesn't count against the cap, though just.
- Wetbandit1



Even he hated that contract, tried to off himself (not good). Wonder what he is up to nowadays.

Edit: DiPietro is currently a NY sports talk show host on ESPN 98.7 FM.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:30 PM ET
Speed, youthful enthusiasm, and fresh mindsets that have no ego to counter the direction of the organization. I'm sticking with bringing in minimal F.A's.
- washedup20


It only makes sense to bring in Free Agents if they’re top of the line types

No sense in signing a guy like Pouliot over playing a guy like Baptiste or Bailey
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 12 @ 5:34 PM ET
It only makes sense to bring in Free Agents if they’re top of the line types

No sense in signing a guy like Pouliot over playing a guy like Baptiste or Bailey

- jdfitz77



Which will be extremely difficult and expensive, players hate it there.

Time to reset, we loooooooose this much next year using this approach, I'll eat like Gerbe for a month
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 12 @ 5:37 PM ET
You folks realize were talking about the leagues best D man who's 27, right?

He had 43 EV points, on the 2nd lowest scoring team in hockey.

He's the elite of the elite at his position.

They can have any 2 players on this team that aren't named Jack + whatever money he wants
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:42 PM ET
Punch was 32-63-25.

I'm pretty sure he DID put up with it.

- Wetbandit1


Yeah, but he lost the RIGHT way!
Pass me another Genny cream ale, dem dare.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:43 PM ET
David Bolland anyone???
- RhinoFan


He hasn’t done anything decent in 6 years
And that was only 19goals,
while playing 2C for the Blackhawks

I can’t see anyway that he’s effective for us
Maybe as a 4C,
but wouldn’t u rather just play E Rod, Asplund or Malone in that spot?

I guess we could give him a tryout to Camp,
but i wouldn’t sign him
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 5:44 PM ET
Ottawa are going to have to eat half his celery to realistically trade him.

So Bobby Ryan at 3.65 for 4 years isn't so bad looking but I honestly don't want to be anywhere near him and doubt Ottawa trades Karlsson to a division rival.

- BeadyEyedDouche


I wouldn’t want Bobby Ryan for ONE year at 3.65, let alone FOUR
No way
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