UNPOSSIBRU...Bruins had a better Corsi rating.
- Garnie

This makes no sense. I need an argumentative jackass to explain it to me as condescendingly as possible.

If we make the playoffs and wins some series that's all you can ask....PARITY...nobody is guaranteed to win any of the 1st/2nd/3rd round series.
- Garnie

So the Leafs from 1998 to 2004 is basically good enough for you? That's not the goal in my book.

7th in the league because they are really that good or because they were 7-2 in the shootout, something that doesn't exist in the playoffs?

The Leafs are a good team, they're just not as good as you think they are and a lot of stats prove that, especially during the playoffs, when all the teams they are playing are also very good if not great teams.

It would be a miracle if the Capitals won the Cup this year, because time and time again they play the same style that doesn't work in the playoffs. That's the same trap the Leafs need to avoid if they want to actually have playoff success.

I think you've forgotten what playoff hockey is and what the difference is between the regular season and the playoffs. It's a different game, a different atmosphere, it's the separator between the pretenders and the contenders. You have this "any miracle can happen" mentality when reality is the opposite.
- Unholy_Goalie

Ffs then no one can win the cup, because it is a miracle if any team wins the cup. Each teams odds are horrible, even NSH. If you are going to have a mature conversation here you need to put the miracle talk to rest, because what is the point of even talking about the playoffs if we aren't allowed to say the 7th overall and 8th overall teams have a chance to win? They absolutely do and have in the past.

If I picked a team to win and you picked a team to win, odds are we will both be wrong. Those are odds you can count on.

And sure the playoffs are different.....Lets see how the Leafs play in them because with your logic 6 games is far too low of a sample size to make an opinion on.

And missed a big chunk of time at a crucial part of the season that cost them their ability to stay in the playoff race. He would have played 65-70 if he was 100% and the Flames would have had a better chance.
- Unholy_Goalie

Wouldn't he get tired playing that much?

So the Leafs from 1998 to 2004 is basically good enough for you? That's not the goal in my book.
- Unholy_Goalie

1 team will win

NSH is the faveorite. Odds are they won't win.

Odds are the team you think will win won't win.

This is what watching sports is about, cheering your team on to take the small chance they have and win the cup. Not throw in the towel before game 1.

You need to realize you are being very ignorant.

Ffs then no one can win the cup, because it is a miracle if any team wins the cup. Each teams odds are horrible, even NSH. If you are going to have a mature conversation here you need to put the miracle talk to rest, because what is the point of even talking about the playoffs if we aren't allowed to say the 7th overall and 8th overall teams have a chance to win? They absolutely do and have in the past.

If I picked a team to win and you picked a team to win, odds are we will both be wrong. Those are odds you can count on.

And sure the playoffs are different.....Lets see how the Leafs play in them because with your logic 6 games is far too low of a sample size to make an opinion on.
- Santo_44

1 team will win

NSH is the faveorite. Odds are they won't win.

Odds are the team you think will win won't win.

This is what watching sports is about, cheering your team on to take the small chace they have and win the cup. Not throw in the towel before game 1.
- Santo_44

Ffs then no one can win the cup, because it is a miracle if any team wins the cup. Each teams odds are horrible, even NSH. If you are going to have a mature conversation here you need to put the miracle talk to rest, because what is the point of even talking about the playoffs if we aren't allowed to say the 7th overall and 8th overall teams have a chance to win? They absolutely do and have in the past.

If I picked a team to win and you picked a team to win, odds are we will both be wrong. Those are odds you can count on.

And sure the playoffs are different.....Lets see how the Leafs play in them because with your logic 6 games is far too low of a sample size to make an opinion on.
- Santo_44

Name them.

If you want to talk odds, the odds are the teams that did it are far fewer than the teams that finished higher. And the teams that actually did pull it off, have a very good reason why they did it which can be proven, usually with great defensive play and strong possession, which is the polar opposite of how the Leafs play.

1 team will win

NSH is the faveorite. Odds are they won't win.

Odds are the team you think will win won't win.

This is what watching sports is about, cheering your team on to take the small chace they have and win the cup. Not throw in the towel before game 1.
- Santo_44

UG always backs his team. He’s been a die hard Bruins fan since it’s glory year of 2011.

1 team will win

NSH is the faveorite. Odds are they won't win.

Odds are the team you think will win won't win.

This is what watching sports is about, cheering your team on to take the small chance they have and win the cup. Not throw in the towel before game 1.

You need to realize you are being very ignorant.
- Santo_44

Wanting a team to win and a team having the best odds to win are two different things that you often confuse and put together which makes your last comment so cute.

Name them.

If you want to talk odds, the odds are the teams that did it are far fewer than the teams that finished higher. And the teams that actually did pull it off, have a very good reason why they did it which can be proven, usually with great defensive play and strong possession, which is the polar opposite of how the Leafs play.
- Unholy_Goalie

2015 hawks
2014 kings
2012 kings
2011 BRUINS
2009 penguins

So the Leafs from 1998 to 2004 is basically good enough for you? That's not the goal in my book.
- Unholy_Goalie

oh.....good to know, if they are competing and making the 2nd/3rd round / Cup finals....i'm all in....i'm sure you'd prefer the 10 years previous to last year...it seems to bring your best out.

Name them.

If you want to talk odds, the odds are the teams that did it are far fewer than the teams that finished higher. And the teams that actually did pull it off, have a very good reason why they did it which can be proven, usually with great defensive play and strong possession, which is the polar opposite of how the Leafs play.
- Unholy_Goalie

What

Where you finish and how you play don't matter. So dumb. If you're seventh you're seventh, how you play/how you got there isn't a factor. It doesn't make any sense to say last years 7th team is better position than another years team because of how they play.

2015 hawks
2014 kings
2012 kings
2011 BRUINS
2009 penguins
- Tumbleweed

Good. Now compare those teams, the players they had, the style they played and compare them to the Leafs. You won't find much evidence that proves the Leafs are anywhere near those teams if you're being objective.

2015 hawks
2014 kings
2012 kings
2011 BRUINS
2009 penguins
- Tumbleweed

Yeah but ressons

Good. Now compare those teams, the players they had, the style they played and compare them to the Leafs. You won't find much evidence that proves the Leafs are anywhere near those teams if you're being objective.
- Unholy_Goalie

going to wreck you once again in dt's pool for losers

oh.....good to know, if they are competing and making the 2nd/3rd round / Cup finals....i'm all in....i'm sure you'd prefer the 10 years previous to last year...it seems to bring your best out.
- Garnie

Nope. Those previous 10 years really sucked which is the price you pay (would have been a better pay off if Burke wasn't an idiot) to have the team that the Leafs have today. But the worst scenario would be to go another 10 years of being pretenders instead of real contenders and actual champions. So while having a great season and getting bounced in the 2nd round would be cool for you, I have higher expectations of what this team should be able to accomplish.

What

Where you finish and how you play don't matter. So dumb. If you're seventh you're seventh, how you play/how you got there isn't a factor. It doesn't make any sense to say last years 7th team is better position than another years team because of how they play.
- burn

Burn on.

Yeah but ressons
- burn

*looks at post above*

going to wreck you once again in dt's pool for losers
- Crimsoninja

Good. Now compare those teams, the players they had, the style they played and compare them to the Leafs. You won't find much evidence that proves the Leafs are anywhere near those teams if you're being objective.
- Unholy_Goalie

which is why our odds of winning the cup are low.

but we could win a round, maybe 2.

Name them.

If you want to talk odds, the odds are the teams that did it are far fewer than the teams that finished higher. And the teams that actually did pull it off, have a very good reason why they did it which can be proven, usually with great defensive play and strong possession, which is the polar opposite of how the Leafs play.
- Unholy_Goalie

First off, you need to stop with this. Those teams that won changed your mind about how good they are because of the run they went on. Not for what they did before the playoffs.

You could easily say you today, that thought Raantanen was going to breakout and say he only brokeout because of good reason that can be proven beforehand.

And sure, the odds are a bit better Nashville will win. However, their odds are horrible if you want to look at it as a whole. It would be a "miracle" if they won, so at the end of the day if someone wants to choose a team that has a bit less odds than it is perfectly fine. They are not wrong or right.

which is why are odds of winning the cup are low.

but we could win a round, maybe 2.
- Tumbleweed

Wouldn't say it's impossible but their odds aren't very good either.

Good. Now compare those teams, the players they had, the style they played and compare them to the Leafs. You won't find much evidence that proves the Leafs are anywhere near those teams if you're being objective.
- Unholy_Goalie

*read my previous post*

Good. Now compare those teams, the players they had, the style they played and compare them to the Leafs. You won't find much evidence that proves the Leafs are anywhere near those teams if you're being objective.
- Unholy_Goalie

Lol, did you just ask someone else to be objective? Clearly trolling when you yourself have no objectivity in this subject.

I feel like you are the person who can't allow himself to have any hope as you don't want to be let down and dissapointed