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hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 9 @ 1:52 PM ET
But it's a factor. That contract affects how many good players you can afford to put around him, therefor affecting how good player "A" under contract needs to perform in order to get a desired result. Unless results don't matter.
- Buffalo--Sabres


No, I agree. I just don't hold the player accountable because of his paycheck. ROR is exactly who he has always been, right or wrong? 55-65 points a year. Dumb A$$ Murray is the one I blame for paying the guy 7.5 large a year.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 1:53 PM ET

Matthew Bové

@Matt_Bove
"Do you need a change of scenery?" - @pham1717's question to Ryan O'Reilly after his powerful comments #Sabres @WKBW

https://mobile.twitter.co...status/983350131440472064
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Eichel is the Captain of this team. Give him the C, bring in a character vet to be the A and let him mentor Eichel behind the scenes.

Delaying the inevitable is (frank)ing stupid. He single-handedly drags this team kicking and screaming to win games. He's stopped the outbursts which I found refreshing, but most on here complained about as being immature and female dogy. What more does he have to do to finally be handed the keys to the [busted] lambo??

GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Apr 9 @ 1:55 PM ET
Seriously. And it's almost as if simple math can't even be considered.

The BEST faceoff man in the league, wins 1 more out of 10 than someone who's right at the average.

1 more out of 10

- sbroads24


When the Sabres traded for ROR they and we knew he wasn't an 80 pt player. He was a high 50-low 60 pt all around player. Well, they got it who is depressed because of losing. If he was ecstatic after losing and collecting a nice paycheck I would be more worried.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 9 @ 1:56 PM ET
When the Sabres traded for ROR they and we knew he wasn't an 80 pt player. He was a high 50-low 60 pt all around player. Well, they got it who is depressed because of losing. If he was ecstatic after losing and collecting a nice paycheck I would be more worried.
- GilPerreault11



bingo!! You win
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
But it's a factor. That contract affects how many good players you can afford to put around him, therefor affecting how good player "A" under contract needs to perform in order to get a desired result. Unless results don't matter.
- Buffalo--Sabres



Analogy time.

If there were no salary cap your original statement that the contract falls on the GM(who's no longer here anyways) would be 100% true.

O'Reilly's contract is like a car payment in a family with a budget. The cost of that payment needs maximum value, so that funds and resources can be dispersed evenly to ensure a sound budget. Now if you're rich as hell, it doesn't matter if you go to the dealer and overpay like a fool for a car. It just depends on how you use the car. But due to the salary cap, Pegula's wealth is mitigated.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
even as a quitter he still managed 61 points...I don't think he's the leader a.) he thinks he is or b.) the leader this team needs...

i'm to the point where i'd trade him, skunk and a first rounder (protected) for Tavares and sign him to a $12M aav for seven years...

Tavares has those qualities lacking in Buffalo

- Michael Pachla



Wow , that's interesting.
Rumor or guess?
Travers has the buffalo connection
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 9 @ 1:57 PM ET
bingo!! You win
- hehateme


ROR is who he is. We try to paint him for something he has never been.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
Oh, McDavid is at 41.4% Super bust. Faceoffs just don't matter as much as the Cryin' O' Reilly apologists would like to believe.
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 9 @ 1:58 PM ET
No, I agree. I just don't hold the player accountable because of his paycheck. ROR is exactly who he has always been, right or wrong? 55-65 points a year. Dumb A$$ Murray is the one I blame for paying the guy 7.5 large a year.
- hehateme



Yeah, which is the part where I turn a blame Pegula. He allowed all of this nonsense to spiral out of control.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 9 @ 2:00 PM ET
ROR is who he is. We try to paint him for something he has never been.
- hehateme


In fairness, he also paints himself as something he has never been and is depressed because he isn't.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 9 @ 2:01 PM ET
Analogy time.

If there were no salary cap your original statement that the contract falls on the GM(who's no longer here anyways) would be 100% true.

O'Reilly's contract is like a car payment in a family with a budget. The cost of that payment needs maximum value, so that funds and resources can be dispersed evenly to ensure a sound budget. Now if you're rich as hell, it doesn't matter if you go to the dealer and overpay like a fool for a car. It just depends on how you use the car. But due to the salary cap, Pegula's wealth is mitigated.

- Buffalo--Sabres


I get all that. I'm saying for me, I don't blame the player for what they make. They don't sign themselves to the contracts, agents and GM's do... Ultimately it on the GM because at the end of the day they have the final say in things....in the case of ROR, he is exactly who he always has been. Right or wrong? 60 point guy, great face off guy, two way player.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Apr 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
Yeah, which is the part where I turn a blame Pegula. He allowed all of this nonsense to spiral out of control.
- Buffalo--Sabres


YES!!!!!!!!!!! agree 100%
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 9 @ 2:04 PM ET
Couture looks very similar to O'Reilly, and I never saw this season coming from William Karlsson. I still don't know where it came from.
- kingcong39

Couture is very, very good. Tied for 15th in EV goals amongst centers, actually higher considering they have Eberle and Konecny listed at C.

I don't think anyone saw Karlsson having this season
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 9 @ 2:05 PM ET
Couture is very, very good. Tied for 15th in EV goals amongst centers, actually higher considering they have Eberle and Konecny listed at C.

I don't think anyone saw Karlsson having this season

- sbroads24


Karlsson is an RFA. That should be interesting.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 9 @ 2:07 PM ET
When the Sabres traded for ROR they and we knew he wasn't an 80 pt player. He was a high 50-low 60 pt all around player. Well, they got it who is depressed because of losing. If he was ecstatic after losing and collecting a nice paycheck I would be more worried.
- GilPerreault11

I think the sentiment was that he was going to be more once he was out of Mackinnon/Duchene/Landeskog's shadow. He wanted to be that guy.

The point totals, faceoffs, smart play is there. I don't dispute that.

The total lack of leadership shows, on and off the ice. He rarely seems to step up and take control or charge of a game.

For the assets and $$ paid to get him, that's the dissapointing part

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 2:10 PM ET
Damn jack not going to worlds
Joe Yerdon
@JoeYerdon

Busy moving here. Eichel not headed to Worlds. Said he has to get his body right.


TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
ROR is who he is. We try to paint him for something he has never been.
- hehateme


He tried to paint himself as a leader. Leading by example on and off the ice. Did he succeed or fail in the leadership dept?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Damn jack not going to worlds
Joe Yerdon
@JoeYerdon

Busy moving here. Eichel not headed to Worlds. Said he has to get his body right.

- gerbe75pts


You're years behind, kid.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 2:15 PM ET

Vasily Glotov
@Glotov97
Hockey is fun, no? #rochmaster #buffie #lovethegame #Sabres


Shots fired at Ryan O’Reilly ....(maybe)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 9 @ 2:17 PM ET
Vasily Glotov
@Glotov97
Hockey is fun, no? #rochmaster #buffie #lovethegame #Sabres


Shots fired at Ryan O’Reilly ....(maybe)

- gerbe75pts


Go find your tin hat.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 9 @ 2:18 PM ET
Go find your tin hat.
- TheSabresTaco


I’m going to Disney maybe I’ll buy a mickey hat
Irish 14
Location: South Buffalo
Joined: 01.25.2007

Apr 9 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not as of now but ROR is honest and all of a sudden he's a quitter. Other guys feel the same way and i'm sure it takes a toll on you over the years(s) but he's a quitter. But because he makes 7.5 a year he can't say anything.
- SABRES 89


Disagree, listen to his comments today. McDavid wasn't ready either!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
Wow , that's interesting.
Rumor or guess?
Travers has the buffalo connection

- Boss34

micro rant with some food for thought thrown in for good measure...

nothing more than that
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 9 @ 2:26 PM ET
micro rant with some food for thought thrown in for good measure...

nothing more than that

- Michael Pachla


Pachla for GM

Stripes for Mod

2020
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