Allen sucks.

Allen hasn't been the problem tonight imho.
- Jason Millen

Yeah that third goal was completely legit and in no way based on a guy off his angle. And the first goal....

Yes the Blues give up too much at the end of periods. But if he keeps the game a one goal game boom.

If the NHL doesn't blow a call boom.

Of course if the rest of the players showed up....

Yeah that third goal was completely legit and in no way based on a guy off his angle. And the first goal....

Yes the Blues give up too much at the end of periods. But if he keeps the game a one goal game boom.

If the NHL doesn't blow a call boom.

Of course if the rest of the players showed up....
- BluemanGuruu

I didn't understand the decision to play Allen in this game, period. If you go down with Carter Hutton, there's no shame. He's been the Blues best goaltender all season. Too much emphasis on who's supposed to be the number one guy.

Mike Yeo eats this one in my book.

The goal at the end of the first period, like so many this season, devastating. Play a solid period on the road, weather the storm and in a blink, you're going into the lockerroom down.

i can't say the Blues were hosed on the offside call. To the naked eye it certainly looked like the puck came out of the zone, so i think it should have been blown dead at ice level. But i did not see a CLEAR replay that convinced me the puck was completely outside the blue line. It was close, but too grainy to be conclusive, so I understood why it wasn't overturned.

I can't really say I'm too broken up about not being the first round sacrifice to Nashville. Blues just don't have enough healthy bodies.

Ultimately, the Blues season ended when the worst team in the Western Conference came back from a 3-1 hole and torched #34.

Yeah that third goal was completely legit and in no way based on a guy off his angle. And the first goal....

Yes the Blues give up too much at the end of periods. But if he keeps the game a one goal game boom.

If the NHL doesn't blow a call boom.

Of course if the rest of the players showed up....
- BluemanGuruu

You realize the 3rd goal went in off Parayko's stick right? That goal is on Parayko and his lazy play at the blue line, not Allen.

1st goal on parayko too as he didn't either box out or push through the Avs player in front of the net. parayko was really poor down the stretch unfortunately, something Korac and I agree on and based on Butler being on the ice at the end of the 1st Hawks game, Blues management might also agree.

He'll shake it off and be better. maybe the toll of the increased minutes had caught up to him.

I can't really say I'm too broken up about not being the first round sacrifice to Nashville. Blues just don't have enough healthy bodies.
- bcallaway

This imho. I save some $ too.

You realize the 3rd goal went in off Parayko's stick right? That goal is on Parayko and his lazy play at the blue line, not Allen.

1st goal on parayko too as he didn't either box out or push through the Avs player in front of the net. parayko was really poor down the stretch unfortunately, something Korac and I agree on and based on Butler being on the ice at the end of the 1st Hawks game, Blues management might also agree.

He'll shake it off and be better. maybe the toll of the increased minutes had caught up to him.
- Jason Millen

Yeah, that shot definitely ramped up off of Parayko's stick. And you are right about the 1st goal too.

This imho. I save some $ too.
- Jason Millen

I save some money, but I would have rather spent it.



Waiting game now for my rep to contact me and see what they are the options for moving me.

Allen sucks.
- BluemanGuruu

Allen was the only thing that kept us in that game....



NHL needs better cameras....

Allen was the only thing that kept us in that game....



NHL needs better cameras....
- cuethenoise

Yes, they do.

And they need to have something installed that will put a distinct line on the review monitors on both edges of the Blue Line, as well as the Goal Line, so they can tell if a puck has definitively crossed the line or not since the lines get skewed on the ice from playing on them. Sensors in the boards or something that doesn't put anything on the ice, but will put it on the screen for reviewing purposes.

I find it hard to believe that with technology today they can't know for sure if a puck is across a line or not.

Yes, they do.

And they need to have something installed that will put a distinct line on the review monitors on both edges of the Blue Line, as well as the Goal Line, so they can tell if a puck has definitively crossed the line or not since the lines get skewed on the ice from playing on them. Sensors in the boards or something that doesn't put anything on the ice, but will put it on the screen for reviewing purposes.

I find it hard to believe that with technology today they can't know for sure if a puck is across a line or not.
- carcus

That is exactly what they need to do.

Even though I think it was out I still don't see it as definitive enough from that view to change the call on the ice.

I didn't understand the decision to play Allen in this game, period. If you go down with Carter Hutton, there's no shame. He's been the Blues best goaltender all season. Too much emphasis on who's supposed to be the number one guy.

Mike Yeo eats this one in my book.

The goal at the end of the first period, like so many this season, devastating. Play a solid period on the road, weather the storm and in a blink, you're going into the lockerroom down.

i can't say the Blues were hosed on the offside call. To the naked eye it certainly looked like the puck came out of the zone, so i think it should have been blown dead at ice level. But i did not see a CLEAR replay that convinced me the puck was completely outside the blue line. It was close, but too grainy to be conclusive, so I understood why it wasn't overturned.

I can't really say I'm too broken up about not being the first round sacrifice to Nashville. Blues just don't have enough healthy bodies.

Ultimately, the Blues season ended when the worst team in the Western Conference came back from a 3-1 hole and torched #34.
- bcallaway

Allen won 8 of 9 straight games. They had no choice but to keep riding him. With only 6 games left in the season and Hutton benched for a month, it was no surprise to me.

If Carter put up a donut in relief against the Yotes, it would be a different story.

I've got to agree on the offside, never looked conclusively out to me.

Allen was the only thing that kept us in that game....



NHL needs better cameras....
- cuethenoise

Am I the only one who doesn't think that puck was out? Even on this view I see no white between blue line and puck. That's one of those where if it's not called on the ice you can't overturn it.

Tarasenko had to have been hurt before that "hit" on Ladeskog. There wasn't even much whiplash effect from it. May explain some of his lackluster play the last month.

Allen won 8 of 9 straight games. They had no choice but to keep riding him. With only 6 games left in the season and Hutton benched for a month, it was no surprise to me.

If Carter put up a donut in relief against the Yotes, it would be a different story.

I've got to agree on the offside, never looked conclusively out to me.
- Blue Clam

He played good in one, maybe two of those games. The rest of it was the team willing wins and blocking shots and other teams choking on their odd man rushes.

He also lost three in a row and those losses were heavily on the side of his fault, maybe the Arizona game the least of them. The goals Chicago scored all but the last one were highly stoppable. And against Washington what a joke. Even Milbury straight up said he cost them the game. Evevryone was giving him a pass but three stoppable goals against give me a break. There is no defense for that. He got so bad and he knew he was jumping up at pucks. If not for the Blues defense against Colorado he would have given up many more as he was overly aggressive and was pulling himself out of position. To me that was a sign he was desperate and not trusting his own game. When he does that and actually looks god, his movements are smooth and he isn't overplaying the man with the puck.

He made a couple of good saves that game but he decided to do this after giving up three goals, two of which were weak. Also the glove save was good but not as good as the dramatic fashion which he used to you know actually keep it in the trapper and not look behind himself.

Interesting question of the day what to do with Fabbri?

As an RFA blues will likely resign him but at what kind of price/

1 year prove it deal? Try and get lightning in a bottle and sign him to a longer term contract at about 4 million a season and hope he injuries are behind him?

Trade him?

Going to be an interesting negotiation for sure

You realize the 3rd goal went in off Parayko's stick right? That goal is on Parayko and his lazy play at the blue line, not Allen.

1st goal on parayko too as he didn't either box out or push through the Avs player in front of the net. parayko was really poor down the stretch unfortunately, something Korac and I agree on and based on Butler being on the ice at the end of the 1st Hawks game, Blues management might also agree.

He'll shake it off and be better. maybe the toll of the increased minutes had caught up to him.
- Jason Millen

Sorry man I think you are giving him too many excuses. Deflections happen. Yes Parayko was bad in the second half in his own end. If the puck touched Parayko I do not feel the deflection was as meaningful from the angle the shooter was taking. He was looking to go where the puck went. That's one of my favorite shots to take because it messes with goalies' heads and it makes you feel good about the snipe itself.

Interesting question of the day what to do with Fabbri?

As an RFA blues will likely resign him but at what kind of price/

1 year prove it deal? Try and get lightning in a bottle and sign him to a longer term contract at about 4 million a season and hope he injuries are behind him?

Trade him?

Going to be an interesting negotiation for sure
- sycsam

He cannot get more than $2million for a season. Likely it would be a two year at most $2 million. Teams would gladly take a chance on him but no one will give him term and doubtful anyone will risk serious coin for a year and no way beyond that. I would bet $1.5 million at two years is likely. He would want it as insurance and the team would feel safe in the risk versus reward. And yes you keep a player like that.

The only way you trade a player like that is it mitigates the risk/reward, which essentially means equal or greater return.

He cannot get more than $2million for a season. Likely it would be a two year at most $2 million. Teams would gladly take a chance on him but no one will give him term and doubtful anyone will risk serious coin for a year and no way beyond that. I would bet $1.5 million at two years is likely. He would want it as insurance and the team would feel safe in the risk versus reward. And yes you keep a player like that.

The only way you trade a player like that is it mitigates the risk/reward, which essentially means equal or greater return.
- BluemanGuruu

Tend to agree. I can go two years with him but nothing long term and i doubt you could trade him for equal value until he proves himself healthy for a time.

Interesting question of the day what to do with Fabbri?

As an RFA blues will likely resign him but at what kind of price/

1 year prove it deal? Try and get lightning in a bottle and sign him to a longer term contract at about 4 million a season and hope he injuries are behind him?

Trade him?

Going to be an interesting negotiation for sure
- sycsam

Prove you are worth the contract deal. Guy has an injury history before us.

Was staying in Rocky Mountain national park this morning, when my dog broke her leather leash and ran after an elk or moose. Ha ha. Colorado is beautiful but Avalanche fans suck

Hitchcock Retires

Guy got a lot of mileage out of one good playoff run in the 90's

Hitchcock Retires

Guy got a lot of mileage out of one good playoff run in the 90's
- sycsam

What a bizarre situation that was.

The guy leaves the Blues dangling a couple of different times about whether or not he wants to retire or return, to the point the Blues go out and hire a safety net, coach-in-waiting....

Is pissed when he gets fired in his already-announced final season with the Blues.

Only to take another job and stay there one whole season and then retires.

I bet Dallas is thrilled.

What an odd duck.

What a bizarre situation that was.

The guy leaves the Blues dangling a couple of different times about whether or not he wants to retire or return, to the point the Blues go out and hire a safety net, coach-in-waiting....

Is pissed when he gets fired in his already-announced final season with the Blues.

Only to take another job and stay there one whole season and then retires.

I bet Dallas is thrilled.

What an odd duck.
- bcallaway

There is saying for people like that.... Go F*** yourself

Jarmo sends his regards.

Jarmo sends his regards.
- Trust In Jarmo

The only person that cares what Jarmo sends is you.