Hunk can lick my balls because he argues everything with BS & I was at the games. So lets try to define what a 10 bell chance really is. To me, breakaway's & 2 on1's should equate into 10 bell opportunities. Alone in the slot & solid 1 timer from a player on the off-wing from the inner edge of the face off circle are 10 bell chances. I have seen lots of PP goals scored that way against, I rarely even see 1 opportunity like that on one of our PP's. Our power play sucked balls & it took 50 games before our rocket science coach actually put Hamilton who despite the lack of top PP time in the first 50 games, is the leading Dman for goals. It took that long to put the one gritty forward we had in Tkachuk on the #1 PP, the one guy that goes to the front of the net, creates havoc & can actually deflect a puck. In the rare event Brouwer goes to the front & try's to deflect the puck, he just stops it. Wash rinse repeat....wash rinse repeat....wash rinse repeat....ohhh... no playoffs. Thanks coach.
Quick quiz.... how many breakaways or even 2 on1's have the Flames had in the last 5 games? Then how many equated to goals versus how many we have given up. Sure glad we out corsi'd everyone.
- Kevin R

If you were at so many games how did you not realize that Hamilton and Tkachuk were in the PP for the entire season? Only Gio had more PP time than Hamilton and only Gaudreau and Monahan had more time than Tkachuk. The top line was t any more effective when they got on it, and the second unit was pretty much useless after they left.

But hey, if you want to live in make believe land and make up definitions for why the Flames are a garbage team, all the power to ya.

Hunk can lick my balls because he argues everything with BS & I was at the games. So lets try to define what a 10 bell chance really is. To me, breakaway's & 2 on1's should equate into 10 bell opportunities. Alone in the slot & solid 1 timer from a player on the off-wing from the inner edge of the face off circle are 10 bell chances. I have seen lots of PP goals scored that way against, I rarely even see 1 opportunity like that on one of our PP's. Our power play sucked balls & it took 50 games before our rocket science coach actually put Hamilton who despite the lack of top PP time in the first 50 games, is the leading Dman for goals. It took that long to put the one gritty forward we had in Tkachuk on the #1 PP, the one guy that goes to the front of the net, creates havoc & can actually deflect a puck. In the rare event Brouwer goes to the front & try's to deflect the puck, he just stops it. Wash rinse repeat....wash rinse repeat....wash rinse repeat....ohhh... no playoffs. Thanks coach.
Quick quiz.... how many breakaways or even 2 on1's have the Flames had in the last 5 games? Then how many equated to goals versus how many we have given up. Sure glad we out corsi'd everyone.
- Kevin R

Corsi is not the same as xGF. Corsi is basically shot differential. Expected goals for is a number specifically created from shot quality. The Flames have the 3rd best xGF. You can say you saw whatever you like to try and justify your feelings, but the fact is they have been very effective at creating quality chances.

Slurp, slurp, slurp!

So many advanced stats diatribes claiming to prove we are a good team. Something doesn't add up here. If we are such a great team with a good coach then why did we suck so badly? Luck is what I am getting.

I guess I have to disagree with most of you on this coach thing. GG is the wrong coach for how this team was built. Corsi numbers go up because the high degree of shot attempts blew away the opponents shot attempts but if your shot attempts are not in prime position & the only way to score is threading the needle or blowing through 4 guys in front of you, the number of missed shots is the result. There is a reason wingers play on the off wing on power plays, chances are they would hit the fcking net more. The team is still built on Hartley's transition game. How many times did we see the late trailing D come in with a 10 bell chance. there was reason why we had Gio, Brodie & even Wideman in the top 20 scoring that year. If Hartley had the backend we went into this year with plus a goalie like Smith who was able to transition as well, this team would be playoff bound. How often we sat watching at the game as the D were to worried about getting back playing the box instead of being involved. Our coach did & has yet to get the best out of the group we have. He is stubborn & doesn't adjust during the games, let alone watch something be unsuccessful & roll out the same lineup game after game. Heard on talk show some players not 100% like Frolik. Well why did we keep him on that line when it obviously wasn't performing all year. Yes players didn't execute either but it's a total picture & its hard to trade & buyout 15 players but coaching staff is a way easier start.
Agree with me or not, but this was not a great year for paying ticket holders for excitement & entertainment. If this coach isn't gone, I will not buy any tickets for any games next year, I won't pay to watch this style of game. Im sure someone will, go have at her.
- Kevin R

Were you on here 2 years ago saying that if Hartley got fired you wouldn't buy tickets anymore??? Come on man.

Show me something that says the Flames had less quality scoring chances than everyone else.

Were you on here 2 years ago saying that if Hartley got fired you wouldn't buy tickets anymore??? Come on man.

Show me something that says the Flames had less quality scoring chances than everyone else.
- The-O-G

UPDATE

The Flames are literally 3rd in the league in High Danger Chances For

Sorry to break it to you Kev

So many advanced stats diatribes claiming to prove we are a good team. Something doesn't add up here. If we are such a great team with a good coach then why did we suck so badly? Luck is what I am getting.
- jazzca1974

My theory. The coach and the system do enough to generate chances, but the skill just isn't quite there. I think a lot of things went wrong too (like you say, some bad luck along the way). They lost their confidence at little bit, and before you know it found themselves in a rut they couldn't dig out of. Pretty simple if you ask me! haha

UPDATE

The Flames are literally 3rd in the league in High Danger Chances For

Sorry to break it to you Kev
- The-O-G

And 28th in goals for ! WTF.

And 28th in goals for ! WTF.
- tincup

That's exactly what I've been saying. Monahan, Gaudreau, Ferland, Tkachuk, and Hamilton are the only guys shooting at or near their usual %. Everyone else is either below, or they're a rookie. For some reason bad luck is taboo with hockey people, but this team has had more than their share this season. The skill in the bottom 6 is certainly an issue as well. I really hope Shore gets a contact. I think Ho-sang would be a great add also...even though some, or most might disagree on that.

That's exactly what I've been saying. Monahan, Gaudreau, Ferland, Tkachuk, and Hamilton are the only guys shooting at or near their usual %. Everyone else is either below, or they're a rookie. For some reason bad luck is taboo with hockey people, but this team has had more than their share this season. The skill in the bottom 6 is certainly an issue as well. I really hope Shore gets a contact. I think Ho-sang would be a great add also...even though some, or most might disagree on that.
- dr_soiledpants

Yeah I don't know why people can't just accept that we got some bad luck. It wasn't entirely bad luck, but it was definitely part of it.