I will only root for NYR/NJ if it is of critical benefit to the Flyers. Since the Rangers are irrelevant except as a spoiler and NJ poses a threat to the Flyers' playoff chances, it's an easy call for me. - jmatchett383
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Mar 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
Does the logic for Sanheim apply to Matt Read? He didn't look slow out there and they could've used him on the PK. Hard to argue he's worse than Weise.
What I said/meant is that 2 months of AHL time in the middle of the season had no affect on how good he was going to be at the NHL level, and actually playing is what made him better. He was already playing well, just made mistakes that ended up in the back of the net and it happened at a rate that wasn't going to continue.
- YuenglingJagr
That's wrong on a number of accounts. The two months of AHL time allowed Sanheim to refocus his game and correct the mistakes he was making. He wasn't playing well overall in his first stint in the NHL the entire time. That's why he was removed from the lineup and eventually sent to the AHL.
There's no discussion that the Flyers' brass know best what makes their youngsters tick, but that's not to say they always make the best decisions when it comes to developing them.
Sanheim may be a good example. It's fair to speculate whether a two hour practice on off days with the big club was more beneficial than playing 20+ minutes a night being coached up in the "A".
Konecky is another. Some may say he was elevated to the top line exactly when he was ready. Others believe he was held back too long. Many were pounding the drums for Travis to be given an opportunity to show what he could do long before he was moved to the first line. Maybe he'd have 35 goals at this point.
Same with Coots. Many were wondering why he was never given the chance to play between productive wingers. When the line juggling carousel finally stopped with Coots' turn to play on the first line, he took off.
Would Ghost have had the brilliant rookie year had it not been for injuries to MacDonald and Coburn? The majority (or perhaps the entirety) of his, 2nd place finish for the Calder, year would been wasted with the Phantoms.
To tell when a kid is ready is not an exact science, but you can play it too conservatively and miss the mark at times also. - 77rams
Here is the difference. What evidence can you or anyone produce that he was held back too long? None, it's pure speculation. However the evidence is clear that the method that the Flyers used to develop and coach Konency has produced a player that looks like he will be a top line scoring player for the team.
Here is the ultimate point. You don't ruin a player by playing it conservatively. You can absolutely hurt a player by rushing him.
From the mental aspect, I thought he was focusing on defense a bit more than just defending, if that makes any sense. That was more towards the end when he played less and less often. I think he was still doing the things he is good at, just not as often as I wanted. His breakouts were good, he showed ability to pressure the blueline. I saw the good stuff, which was important to me.
I think Hakstol saw the bad stuff more, and wanted fewer mistakes (and ironically chose to replace him with Manning), but that is where the discussion becomes less about Sanheim's development and more about what the coach wanted.
Sanheim has been a slow starter at all 3 levels I have watched him at. He is smart and he is skilled. I trust that he would've developed at the NHL level had they decided to keep him there. I will also maintain that there is absolutely no chance in hell Ron Hextall would've started Sanheim at the NHL level if he didn't think he was ready for it. - YuenglingJagr
I disagree. Hakstol's first priority is always about what is best for the young players development. Sanheim played his way out of the lineup. You refuse to acknowledge that. It doesn't matter if you make a good outlet pass if you're not playing the position well fundamentally as a defenseman. It wasn't his game with the puck that was the issue. It was his play without the puck that was.
There's no discussion that the Flyers' brass know best what makes their youngsters tick, but that's not to say they always make the best decisions when it comes to developing them.
Sanheim may be a good example. It's fair to speculate whether a two hour practice on off days with the big club was more beneficial than playing 20+ minutes a night being coached up in the "A".
Konecky is another. Some may say he was elevated to the top line exactly when he was ready. Others believe he was held back too long. Many were pounding the drums for Travis to be given an opportunity to show what he could do long before he was moved to the first line. Maybe he'd have 35 goals at this point.
Same with Coots. Many were wondering why he was never given the chance to play between productive wingers. When the line juggling carousel finally stopped with Coots' turn to play on the first line, he took off.
Would Ghost have had the brilliant rookie year had it not been for injuries to MacDonald and Coburn? The majority (or perhaps the entirety) of his, 2nd place finish for the Calder, year would been wasted with the Phantoms.
To tell when a kid is ready is not an exact science, but you can play it too conservatively and miss the mark at times also. - 77rams
Those are all the guys with 40 or more PK minutest his season. I'm still wondering why Laughton was demoted behind Lehtera in the PK rotation in early January. - Feanor
I don’t get the demotion of Laughton in the PK rotation either. It makes no sense.
Does the logic for Sanheim apply to Matt Read? He didn't look slow out there and they could've used him on the PK. Hard to argue he's worse than Weise. - Doctor DOOM
I dropped a deuce this morning. That turd is a better player than Dale Weise. Weise was only kept up because he still had 3 years left on his deal. Expect his worthless ass to be riding buses for the next 2 seasons.
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Mar 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
So I guess the opposition thinks that when they lose to Lyon?
BTW his career numbers are 27-15-6 2.31 .923 so while he has predominately been an AHL goalie he has done well enough when given the opportunity in the NHL - nastyflyergirl
Those teams who lost to Lyon should be pissed. I don't know how Lyon was making the saves he was because he looks like he was born with one leg.
In the case of the Flyers, all we have is our offense. We don't have anything else.
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Mar 29 @ 4:31 PM ET
Does the logic for Sanheim apply to Matt Read? He didn't look slow out there and they could've used him on the PK. Hard to argue he's worse than Weise. - Doctor DOOM
