because there are a lot of other things in play that stats can't document or chart...this isn't baseball where there's a one-on-one matchup between pitcher and hitter with definable characteristics over a very large sample size...it's a team game with a lot going on at any given second
- Michael Pachla

Fcking this ^

This is what I can't stand about all the advanced stats gurus. There's a whole game within the game that cannot be measured by your precious analytics.

When Ovi says "hockey is like war," he isn't kidding.

4 Qbs one of them will be around at 12

Allen
Darnold
Mayfield
Rosen


For me Rudolph goes before Jackson anyway
- Stripes77

I like Rudolph MUCH better,
but Jackson will likely go top15
Someone is gonna fall in love with his athleticism & think they can fix the accuracy issues

GO CUSE

Of course the water doesn't help

If you used sunblock like someone who's not taunting the sun saying it won't give you cancer you wouldn't be burning right now.

Wrap yourself in a towel, it'll help.

Also, how do you not smell it before you start slathering it on? It's got such a strong smell you can smell it when your neighbor puts it on, FFS.
- Wetbandit1

Bro you’re not gonna get cancer from catching the sun .

I can understand if you’re just laying down and tanning but I don’t do that I put that suntan lotion on And do my workouts

Fcking this ^

This is what I can't stand about all the advanced stats gurus. There's a whole game within the game that cannot be measured by your precious analytics.

When Ovi says "hockey is like war," he isn't kidding.
- BareMetal

Agreed

EspnU has the St.Cloud St game on now for anyone who wants to watch Borgen

2nd period, down 2-0
- jdfitz77

Hopefully he signs but He just Never seem to be too interested when people talk about the Sabres to him

EJ Gaines Signs with the Browns for 1 Year at $4M

We couldn’t match that what the (frank)

Hopefully he signs but He just Never seem to be too interested when people talk about the Sabres to him
- gerbe75pts

Bad on Botts if he can't manage to sign him.

Also, O'Reilly got 2.3% of the votes... So like 10 of his friends that he let's drive his truck...
- sbroads24

Doughty is one. Who are the other 9?

I'm having trouble finding how O'Reilly is under rated.

He's paid as a top 20 NHL forward. He was traded for a boatload, and gets the ice time of a franchise center.

How is he under rated?
- sbroads24

How is he still alive with how much you've beaten that horse?

Read more. I said why should I take a players opinion over data itself, not the nerds just the numbers that are the result of his play. If they did an upper management poll and ROR was ranked top 5 underrated that would be something I’d be interested in as those are people actually responsible for player evaluation and roster construction
- Sabresfan-365

Perhaps we should all reed more and stop with the dbag tone on posts that all too frequently takes place?

Bad on Botts if he can't manage to sign him.
- PrinceChill

He just has that vibe about him like that toilet scrubber Brandon Lemieux

Casey on the other hand just seems to love Buffalo with his actions at the world juniors And when people talk about us

The Jesus Christ's were more that some seemed to revel in it, not the statement itself.
- Wetbandit1

Condescension has become the hallmark of this board, unfortunately.

Perhaps we should all reed more and stop with the dbag tone on posts that all too frequently takes place?
- kingcong39

Glass house?

Bro you’re not gonna get cancer from catching the sun .

I can understand if you’re just laying down and tanning but I don’t do that I put that suntan lotion on And do my workouts
- gerbe75pts

Are you for real with this?

Glass house?
- Sabresfan-365

I included everyone in the comment to not single individuals out who are well known for constantly having that tone.

Edit: Also, nice try.

Bad on Botts if he can't manage to sign him.
- PrinceChill

He didn't pick him so ultimately that'd be on Murray if we were going to place blame but this is part of the risk in draft college players.

I don't know that i'd blame either TM or JB if he didn't sign. Same as the Cal Petersen situation.

Are you for real with this?
- kingcong39

He's not

Evan Silva
✔
@evansilva
CLE Plain Dealer says Allen "alleviated concerns about his 56.2 completion % at Wyoming and kept himself firmly in the conversation for the #Browns No. 1 overall pick."
- gerbe75pts

Same thing I said a few pages earlier

I included everyone in the comment to not single individuals out who are well known for constantly having that tone.

Edit: Also, nice try.
- kingcong39

it's not like it was anything slick lol. There's been plenty of condescension from everyone here and yes that does include you. I personally don't have a problem with it. It comes with internet anonymity and very different opinions on sports. you group these people together and it happens.

Fcking this ^

This is what I can't stand about all the advanced stats gurus. There's a whole game within the game that cannot be measured by your precious analytics.

When Ovi says "hockey is like war," he isn't kidding.
- BareMetal

Ok, how many wars have we won with Ryan O’Reilly?

Literally the fewest of any team since he’s been here.

**Im not blaming him solely for this**

How is he still alive with how much you've beaten that horse?
- kingcong39

He’s an average 2nd line center.

Not the problem, shouldn’t be a core peice

Ok, how many wars have we won with Ryan O’Reilly?

Literally the fewest of any team since he’s been here.

**Im not blaming him solely for this**
- sbroads24

They've both won the same amount of Stanley Cups...

Are you for real with this?
- kingcong39

Yeah I’m serious it’s not like I’m laying down roasting like a turkey

That’s basically saying everyone will catch cancer because they work out outside and the sun hits them

He’s an average 2nd line center.

Not the problem, shouldn’t be a core peice
- sbroads24

Agreed