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dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 9:47 AM ET
But not too many bones

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Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 23 @ 9:48 AM ET
there's so much up in the air, everybody assumes a new coach, but who knows?

I really haven't believed that the organization is so tired of AV that they are willing to eat the last two years of his contract

I believe they'd have no problem eating the last two years if they had enough of him, but I don't think they necessarily have.

And, that has to be figured out before the next captain does

- jimbo83



And that is frustrating. AV seems to live in his own little world these days. I'm not dismissing what he has done in his career, but right now he is far from the right coach for this team, IMO.
I'll bring up again what he did last night. He's got Quickie on the 1st line, which while unorthodox has proven to be the right decision. Then, at the end of the game when we were all over them looking to tie it up, Fast doesn't see the ice in the last 2.5 minutes?!?!? And this is the back-to-back Player's Player Award winner, looking for his first career hat trick. Who also happens to be the 2nd hottest, if not THE hottest player on the team right now. That is not the move of someone who cares about his team or his locker room.
And look at Stinky. Not producing? Down to the 4th line you go! That's AV's one and only tactic. Regardless of the player or what might best motivate or educate them.
He's out of touch.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 23 @ 9:51 AM ET
By the way, just found this cool site while looking for stats to back up my opinion, for anyone who is interested.

http://www.nicetimeonice.com/

jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 23 @ 9:52 AM ET
And that is frustrating. AV seems to live in his own little world these days. I'm not dismissing what he has done in his career, but right now he is far from the right coach for this team, IMO.
I'll bring up again what he did last night. He's got Quickie on the 1st line, which while unorthodox has proven to be the right decision. Then, at the end of the game when we were all over them looking to tie it up, Fast doesn't see the ice in the last 2.5 minutes?!?!? And this is the back-to-back Player's Player Award winner, looking for his first career hat trick. Who also happens to be the 2nd hottest, if not THE hottest player on the team right now. That is not the move of someone who cares about his team or his locker room.
And look at Stinky. Not producing? Down to the 4th line you go! That's AV's one and only tactic. Regardless of the player or what might best motivate or educate them.
He's out of touch.

- Tonybere


I don't believe that the organization thinks that AV's only role is line combinations
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 23 @ 9:59 AM ET
I don't believe that the organization thinks that AV's only role is line combinations
- jimbo83


Not my point, Jimmy. The head coach is the guy that is supposed to have his finger on the pulse of the team. AV seems like he doesn't spend 5 seconds with his players outside of the game clock running down, and doesn't care to.
You don't think every guy in that room wouldn't have been over-joyed to see Fast get a 3rd goal? It would have been the biggest high point since trading away a bunch of good friends.

edit: And I'm not trying to make this the biggest tragedy since the Hindenburg, but to not even put him out there to try for it is mind-boggling to me. Both his linemates were out there at the end. He had Zib & Kreider out there with Spooner, and then Buch.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 23 @ 10:00 AM ET
But not too many bones

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...hicken_Ranch_Far_Side.jpg

- dashripdot


Far side was great.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 23 @ 10:10 AM ET
But not too many bones

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...hicken_Ranch_Far_Side.jpg

- dashripdot


Always liked this one.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Mar 23 @ 10:11 AM ET
And that is frustrating. AV seems to live in his own little world these days. I'm not dismissing what he has done in his career, but right now he is far from the right coach for this team, IMO.
I'll bring up again what he did last night. He's got Quickie on the 1st line, which while unorthodox has proven to be the right decision. Then, at the end of the game when we were all over them looking to tie it up, Fast doesn't see the ice in the last 2.5 minutes?!?!? And this is the back-to-back Player's Player Award winner, looking for his first career hat trick. Who also happens to be the 2nd hottest, if not THE hottest player on the team right now. That is not the move of someone who cares about his team or his locker room.
And look at Stinky. Not producing? Down to the 4th line you go! That's AV's one and only tactic. Regardless of the player or what might best motivate or educate them.
He's out of touch.

- Tonybere


(frank)ing preach tony
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:12 AM ET
Not my point, Jimmy. The head coach is the guy that is supposed to have his finger on the pulse of the team. AV seems like he doesn't spend 5 seconds with his players outside of the game clock running down, and doesn't care to.
You don't think every guy in that room wouldn't have been over-joyed to see Fast get a 3rd goal? It would have been the biggest high point since trading away a bunch of good friends.

edit: And I'm not trying to make this the biggest tragedy since the Hindenburg, but to not even put him out there to try for it is mind-boggling to me. Both his linemates were out there at the end. He had Zib & Kreider out there with Spooner, and then Buch.

- Tonybere


this is the point I am trying to make Tony

I am trying to determine if the organization is unhappy enough with AV to eat the last two years of his contract and fire him

so, little things like last night, not putting Fast out there to get a hat trick, blah blah blah, none of that matters in the grand scheme of things when thy ultimately evaluate him and decide to pull the plug.

I just think that the organization likes AV. I know the frustrations we all have, Rangers bloggers have, twitter, I get it.
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Mar 23 @ 10:16 AM ET
this is the point I am trying to make Tony

I am trying to determine if the organization is unhappy enough with AV to eat the last two years of his contract and fire him

so, little things like last night, not putting Fast out there to get a hat trick, blah blah blah, none of that matters in the grand scheme of things when thy ultimately evaluate him and decide to pull the plug.

I just think that the organization likes AV. I know the frustrations we all have, Rangers bloggers have, twitter, I get it.

- jimbo83


idk man. everytime Gorton has had the opp lately to given even a hint of praise/support he has avoided it
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:21 AM ET
Far side was great.
- mdw7413


When Kreider turns a defenseman inside-out

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Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Mar 23 @ 10:22 AM ET
this is the point I am trying to make Tony

I am trying to determine if the organization is unhappy enough with AV to eat the last two years of his contract and fire him

so, little things like last night, not putting Fast out there to get a hat trick, blah blah blah, none of that matters in the grand scheme of things when thy ultimately evaluate him and decide to pull the plug.

I just think that the organization likes AV. I know the frustrations we all have, Rangers bloggers have, twitter, I get it.

- jimbo83


Ok. But, I disagree.
I think that things like trying to keep a good attitude and atmosphere in the locker room when you have been eliminated from playoff contention and trying to coach a new player and put him in a position to succeed rather than burying him on the 4th line are exactly the sort of things the organization should be looking at when they try to determine who should coach the team through a rebuild.
Sorry for the run-on sentence, Peter.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:22 AM ET

Always liked this one.

- Fenrir

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Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 23 @ 10:28 AM ET
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- dashripdot

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 23 @ 10:30 AM ET

Always liked this one.

- Fenrir

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 23 @ 10:30 AM ET
this is the point I am trying to make Tony

I am trying to determine if the organization is unhappy enough with AV to eat the last two years of his contract and fire him

so, little things like last night, not putting Fast out there to get a hat trick, blah blah blah, none of that matters in the grand scheme of things when thy ultimately evaluate him and decide to pull the plug.

I just think that the organization likes AV. I know the frustrations we all have, Rangers bloggers have, twitter, I get it.

- jimbo83

I also think Gorton/Sather like AV, I'd be surprised to see him go this season especially with how the team has played since the TDL.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Mar 23 @ 10:34 AM ET
(frank) AV(that includes Ruff and Arniel). I want a clean slate next year.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:34 AM ET

- Fenrir

Hahahahaha
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 23 @ 10:34 AM ET
I also think Gorton/Sather like AV, I'd be surprised to see him go this season especially with how the team has played since the TDL.
- Fenrir


I think you have to be really tired of a coach and desperately want him out to eat the last 10 million dollars out of his contract

and I just don't see enough evidence to believe they are desperate enough to do that

especially if you subscribe to the theory that JT Miller was traded because AV doesn't like him, because if that's true, then why would they fire him
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Mar 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
Ok. But, I disagree.
I think that things like trying to keep a good attitude and atmosphere in the locker room when you have been eliminated from playoff contention and trying to coach a new player and put him in a position to succeed rather than burying him on the 4th line are exactly the sort of things the organization should be looking at when they try to determine who should coach the team through a rebuild.
Sorry for the run-on sentence, Peter.

- Tonybere

I'm busy. Carry on...
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 23 @ 10:36 AM ET
I think you have to be really tired of a coach and desperately want him out to eat the last 10 million dollars out of his contract

and I just don't see enough evidence to believe they are desperate enough to do that

especially if you subscribe to the theory that JT Miller was traded because AV doesn't like him, because if that's true, then why would they fire him

- jimbo83

Exactly. Who else would they bring in besides Ruff?
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:37 AM ET
Don't tease the Piranha

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JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Mar 23 @ 10:38 AM ET
(frank) AV(that includes Ruff and Arniel). I want a clean slate next year.
- mdw7413



Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Mar 23 @ 10:39 AM ET
I'm busy. Carry on...

- 21peter

Classic!
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Mar 23 @ 10:39 AM ET
I'm busy. Carry on...

- 21peter

There's no failure to communicate there.
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