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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:45 PM ET
I like Gaunce but a team that struggles to score can't have players that go 100 games without scoring . You can find 15 players that are UFAs that can put up 8-10 goals for 1 mil.

Again I like him but he does need to score more or guys will come in and do exactly that

- VANTEL


you guys are overlooking usage


He makes life easier for the other 3 lines, why do you think Green finds a way to get the Sedins 70-75% of o-zone starts?

Because he trusts guys like Gaunce/Sutter to survive and not get lit up while playing tough mins
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 7:45 PM ET


I think I peed a little.




.......



...

Man, I hope that was pee.

- Beatle_john

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:45 PM ET
8-12 goals playing his minutes would make him a legit good 3LC then
- Nucker101


He plays wing but sure
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Mar 21 @ 7:46 PM ET

- VANTEL


All good.

Spilled my Diet Coke.

(Real story)
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 7:46 PM ET
2-1 yotes
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:49 PM ET
He plays wing but sure
- VANTEL

The rest of my point stands.


I’d rather have a guy who gets 3-4 less goals than most 4th liners but allows less goals than most 4th liners while playing way harder mins than most 4th liners.

He’s indirectly creating more offense for the other 3 lines by freeing them up for easier minutes.

Again, if people can’t grasp this and just want to look at point totals then don’t complain about Daniel scoring 20 goals despite getting cupcake mins + sucking defensively. If you’re going to ignore usage for Gaunce but bring it up to rip the Sedins then you’re being biased and only looking at numbers that you want to.

The 4th liners scoring more goals around the league are getting way easier minutes + usually allowing more goals as well.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:52 PM ET
He plays wing but sure
- VANTEL

He's a centre.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:53 PM ET
The rest of my point stands.


I’d rather have a guy who gets 3-4 less goals than most 4th liners but allows less goals than most 4th liners while playing way harder mins than most 4th liners.

He’s indirectly creating more offense for the other 3 lines by freeing them up for easier minutes.

Again, if people can’t grasp this and just want to look at point totals then don’t complain about Daniel scoring 20 goals despite getting cupcake mins + sucking defensively.

The 4th liners scoring more goals around the league are getting way easier minutes + usually allowing more goals as well.

- Nucker101

Gaunce sucks and is destroying the team.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:54 PM ET
you guys are overlooking usage
- Nucker101



No were not . We see how he plays .We see the little things he does. You can't have a second line center making 7 mil and scoring 2 goals , a third line winger making 6 mil and scoring 10 goals , a first round pick scoring 2 goals in a calendar year and wonder why your team sucks . If you want a scoring team you need scoring players . Any schmuck can play a defensive game for a mil, and they probably would hit and fight . If you are not scoring you need to do something. You cant spend 14 mil for 14 goals (HS LE BG) for PK specialist or PP so called specialist
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:55 PM ET
He's a centre.
- Marwood


You need to watch more games he played mostly wing
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:55 PM ET
Gaunce sucks and is destroying the team.
- Marwood


Probably.


Funny seeing some of the posters who complain about lack of legit hockey talk resort to “X sucks” when they have nothing left to say
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
End of 1 st

Yotes 2-1
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Mar 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
You need to watch more games he played mostly wing
- VANTEL

He takes most of the face offs.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
He's a centre.
- Marwood


Center, Einstein
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 21 @ 7:59 PM ET
No were not . We see how he plays .We see the little things he does. You can't have a second line center making 7 mil and scoring 2 goals , a third line winger making 6 mil and scoring 10 goals , a first round pick scoring 2 goals in a calendar year and wonder why your team sucks . If you want a scoring team you need scoring players . Any schmuck can play a defensive game for a mil, and they probably would hit and fight . If you are not scoring you need to do something. You cant spend 14 mil for 14 goals (HS LE BG) for PK specialist or PP so called specialist
- VANTEL


okay but what about all the mentoring and leadership? conveniently forgot about that huh!

if it wasn't for those guys saying "eat pasta and work out!" then how the (frank) are kids like Boeser or Horvat ever going to know that?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:01 PM ET
No were not . We see how he plays .We see the little things he does. You can't have a second line center making 7 mil and scoring 2 goals , a third line winger making 6 mil and scoring 10 goals , a first round pick scoring 2 goals in a calendar year and wonder why your team sucks . If you want a scoring team you need scoring players . Any schmuck can play a defensive game for a mil, and they probably would hit and fight . If you are not scoring you need to do something. You cant spend 14 mil for 14 goals (HS LE BG) for PK specialist or PP so called specialist
- VANTEL



Aren’t you always complaining about the youth not getting a fair chance at easy 5v5 mins and PP time?

Gaunce is literally the perfect example of a guy you want in the lineup then. You keep mentioning his goal totals but how is his +/- at 0 if he’s not that effective? He plays on a poop team and starts almost every shift on the defensive zone and he’s an even player lol.

To blame the guy who’s an even player despite getting fed the poop minutes while freeing up the other 3 lines to actually score is hilarious.

Blame the players who should be benefiting but are instead actually giving up more goals than scoring despite getting easy minutes. Sedins, Gagner, Eriksson, Baertschi, etc.

This is exactly why I’ve ripped on Sutter less this year.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:02 PM ET
Center, Einstein
- VanHockeyGuy

Troll
Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 21 @ 8:03 PM ET
Aren’t you always complaining about the youth not getting a fair chance at easy 5v5 mins and PP time?

Gaunce is literally the perfect example of a guy you want in the lineup then. You keep mentioning his goal totals but how is his +/- at 0 if he’s not that effective? He plays on a poop team and starts almost every shift on the defensive zone and he’s an even player lol.

To blame the guy who’s an even player despite getting fed the poop minutes while freeing up the other 3 lines to actually score is hilarious.

Blame the players who should be benefiting and are instead actually giving up more goals than scoring despite getting easy minutes. Sedins, Gagner, Eriksson, Baertschi, etc.

This is exactly why I’ve ripped on Sutter lesss this year.

- Nucker101


i hate gaunce because he ruined my favourite joke that I've also scored as many goals on shots in the NHL as he has
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Mar 21 @ 8:03 PM ET
Troll
- VANTEL

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:04 PM ET
i hate gaunce because he ruined my favourite joke that I've also scored as many goals on shots in the NHL as he has
- Lindenis#1

Fair
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:07 PM ET
Aren’t you always complaining about the youth not getting a fair chance at easy 5v5 mins and PP time?

Gaunce is literally the perfect example of a guy you want in the lineup then. You keep mentioning his goal totals but how is his +/- at 0 if he’s not that effective? He plays on a poop team and starts almost every shift on the defensive zone and he’s an even player lol.

To blame the guy who’s an even player despite getting fed the poop minutes while freeing up the other 3 lines to actually score is hilarious.

Blame the players who should be benefiting and are instead actually giving up more goals than scoring despite getting easy minutes. Sedins, Gagner, Eriksson, Baertschi, etc.

This is exactly why I’ve ripped on Sutter less this year.

- Nucker101


For the third time I will repeat I am not ripping on him . I am pulling for him and to a point I like him.

I am saying if he goes another 100 games not scoring he will be ran out of town.

I do Blame the Sedins and Eriksson every hour every day every week every year.

I have said 90 % of the time Sven should be a third liner

Gagner is too soon for me to hate him with a passion
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Mar 21 @ 8:08 PM ET
i hate gaunce because he ruined my favourite joke that I've also scored as many goals on shots in the NHL as he has
- Lindenis#1

Lindenis#1
Vancouver Canucks
Location: he's (frank)in unstable so mrs dt is freaking out, AB
Joined: 07.22.2007

Mar 21 @ 8:10 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi


Dude managed to play like 115 games, scoring 2 goals. One off his nutsack and the other off like his butthole.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:11 PM ET
For the third time I will repeat I am not ripping on him . I am pulling for him and to a point I like him.

I am saying if he goes another 100 games not scoring he will be ran out of town.

I do Blame the Sedins and Eriksson every hour every day every week every year.

I have said 90 % of the time Sven should be a third liner

Gagner is too soon for me to hate him with a passion

- VANTEL


Bottom line for me:
If my 4th liner can break even despite getting a ridiculous amount of dzone starts, I don’t care if he does it by scoring 20 goals and giving up 20 or scoring zero and giving up zero.


But if my Top 9 players are getting normal/easy minutes and getting outplayed, then I’m looking to upgrade on them.


We can just leave it at that
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 21 @ 8:12 PM ET
Dude managed to play like 115 games, scoring 2 goals. One off his nutsack and the other off like his butthole.
- Lindenis#1

It’s funny

But I still think he’s one of the very few on this team’s who actually underrated.
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