by what metric
- daeth

defense

Fixed.
- AdamFrench

datsyuk vs bergeron is interesting. datsyuk was flashy as hell and was a takeaway machine but he still didn't shut people down like bergeron can. his offense was leagues above bergeron though. probably dats > bergeron and the gap might be considerable. i wish we could bring prime datsyuk into the league right now.

I think they should rest the injured guys extra and bring them back for the 28th or 31st

defense
- markmark

Played hockey against my boy the other day.....man am I ever fat and sweaty.

So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo

So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo
- senstroll

he's barely been playing any minutes but ya, he's been non existent lol

I dont know about that. Boston has Tampa in most of the fancy stats areas and whatnot.

Id rather the Leafs face TB in rd 1, but if they manage to win a round they will probably have to face both anyways
- senstroll

I disagree, TB's lineup is superior.

Even if Boston finishes 1st, a few extra wins or OT losses here and there don't matter.

Played hockey against my boy the other day.....man am I ever fat and sweaty and ugly as (frank)ing sin.


- Garnie

Fixed!

So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo
- senstroll

I just still cannot believe that turtlenecked (frank) is a Leaf

So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo
- senstroll

Pleks hasn't looked great either....and his fancy stats suck for a guy getting the easiest of minutes.

So i just looked and Plekaneck has 0 points in 8 games.
I think though having a competent NHL C while Matthews has been out has been important. Instead of having to call up the Goat or someone to fill in. Goat not so great imo
- senstroll

To be fair, he's only averaged 11 minutes a game.. On the plus side, he has won 56% of his faceoffs and gets a lot of defensive zone starts..

Fixed!
- .HOHO.

Pretty much

Bergeron = great

Kopitar = overpaid

I would actually prefer ROR vs Kopitar
- mr.sir

- Scabeh

He's not a fan of Timmies

- Scabeh

ROR might be the king of the b-tier at least!

he's barely been playing any minutes but ya, he's been non existent lol
- daeth

10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore)

datsyuk vs bergeron is interesting. datsyuk was flashy as hell and was a takeaway machine but he still didn't shut people down like bergeron can. his offense was leagues above bergeron though. probably dats > bergeron and the gap might be considerable. i wish we could bring prime datsyuk into the league right now.
- daeth

Babcock has said he thinks Datyuk could have gotten 130pts consistently and gone down as one of the best all time offensively.. but he took a back seat to play the right way and win.

I don't think the same can be said for Bergeron.

10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore)
- senstroll

yeah goat was brutal. i dont think he's nhl quality unfortunately. not enough hockey sense to be good defensively and he's slowwwwwwwwww

10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore)
- senstroll

I think Moore looks better...you?

Babcock has said he thinks Datyuk could have gotten 130pts consistently and gone down as one of the best all time offensively.. but he took a back seat to play the right way and win.

I don't think the same can be said for Bergeron.
- Schennski

Not to the same degree as Datsyuk but for sure Bergeron sacrifices offense to play the way he does. In just his 2nd year he had 73 points, then 70 the next year. Then he got into concussion trouble (I think it was?) and sort of became the defensive forward he is now while losing a lot of offense.

10 mins a game, and win your share of the FO. His fancy stats are nothing great. but he has roughly the same amount of TOI with the Leafs as the goat this season..but much better results than him. (similar to moore)
- senstroll

Moore was a good option as a 4th line winger on Saturday. Komarov is obvs ahead of him and if we play Boston and things get 'tough' Martin may need to draw in.

It's weird having this much depth.

Pleks hasn't looked great either....and his fancy stats suck for a guy getting the easiest of minutes.
- Garnie

With Matthews out he is a better option than what they had. And in the playoffs if you need someone to fill in, I dont want Gauthier around. I just looked his CF% 35 and GF% is 14% (1-6) granted only 9 games

With Matthews out he is a better option than what they had. And in the playoffs if you need someone to fill in, I dont want Gauthier around. I just looked his CF% 35 and GF% is 14% (1-6) granted only 9 games
- senstroll

microscopic sample size indeed but holy poop lol

Not to the same degree as Datsyuk but for sure Bergeron sacrifices offense to play the way he does. In just his 2nd year he had 73 points, then 70 the next year. Then he got into concussion trouble (I think it was?) and sort of became the defensive forward he is now while losing a lot of offense.
- daeth

For sure he does. I think every two way center does, aside from Sid who is underrated even for what he does.

I just don't think Bergeron would be a generational offensive center like Datsyuk could have been.