Im sorry im not into average team ages when looking at a full team, to me that isnt a good indicator. Look at the core players, thats all the matters for averages really. Not bit parts.

Core Players Boston

Bergeron - 32
Marchand - 29
Chara - 41
Rask - 31
Patrnak - 21
McAvoy - 20
Backes - 33
Krejci - 31

Average age - 29.75

Core Players Leafs

Matthews - 20
Marner - 20
Nylander - 21
Kadri - 27
JVR - 28
Reilly - 24
Gardiner - 27
Anderson - 28

Avereage age - 24.375

I mean you could debate who is in the core, but I think this is pretty close. You could argue Debrusk, Dermott, Hyman, Brown, Marleau/Nash, Krug. This would still have the Leafs core way lower in the age bracket.

Fact is Bruins core is definitely older, there is no doubt about that, and they have had injuries this year. Again, no good matchup, the Bruins are a good team period.
- Archaic

I preemptively addressed this in my original post and even more so later so I'm not going to beat a dead horse.

I preemptively addressed this in my original post and even more so later so I'm not going to beat a dead horse.
- RickJames77

No need to.

Fact is they're older and douchy

When you compare Bostons core to other playoff teams. There is no doubt they are the older team
- Santo_44

I'm not sure what this has to do with my post.

I said look at last years team and the two years before that, all with this super important core you are all mentioning, and then take a look at those records versus this one. What has changed from those three years to this? Then reevaluate how important the young players on this team are and continue to dismiss them...

I've already addressed this above. You are underestimating Boston's young players. Look at how this team is doing this year versus last year with the core?

Hmmm...I wonder what changed?
- RickJames77

Bergeron is their MVP and Marchand is their 2nd best player. Chara is overall their most used dman.

Sorry my dude, Boston's core is kinda old.

Bergeron is their MVP and Marchand is their 2nd best player. Chara is overall their most used dman.

Sorry my dude, Boston's core is kinda old.
- daeth

And douchy.

I've already addressed this above. You are underestimating Boston's young players. Look at how this team is doing this year versus last year with the core?

Hmmm...I wonder what changed?
- RickJames77

That doesnt change the fact that the Bruins are aging, and getting older. Its a fact. Where would the Bruins be without their aging core? Likely a lot lower in the standings. Id expect to see a step back in the next few years. Just my opinion, I really like some of the Boston young players.

Bergeron is their MVP and Marchand is their 2nd best player. Chara is overall their most used dman.

Sorry my dude, Boston's core is kinda old.
- daeth

That might be McAvoy - don't just look at ATOI because McAvoy was leading that, got injured, and then Chara started playing stupid minutes.

I'll agree to disagree.

It's just hard to look at this season and think that if the young talent on this team isn't significant then why are we a top team in the league versus a bubble and some even tried to argue a lottery team.

Grzelyck, Bjork, Donato, DeBrusk


And are we really going to start calling 29 old? That seems to be a stretch in my opinion. Every team is going to have players in that department it's just a matter of rotating in younger talent to complement that. Our young players are nothing to sneeze at so there's not much reason to overly weight out "older" players.
- RickJames77

Douchehand was on the list cause he will be 30 in May. But yeah, you do have some nice young pieces

Doucheschnauz was on the list cause he will be 30 in May. But yeah, you do have some nice young pieces
- PatC80

Come on Pat, please use the common nomenclature

That might be McAvoy - don't just look at ATOI because McAvoy was leading that, got injured, and then Chara started playing stupid minutes.

I'll agree to disagree.

It's just hard to look at this season and think that if the young talent on this team isn't significant then why are we a top team in the league versus a bubble and some even tried to argue a lottery team.
- RickJames77

Dude, significant part of your team is old players

Every team in the league has young players that perform well. Any good team anyways

Anyways, agree to disagree. I believe you all are underestimating the talent and importance of our younger players.

I did wake up this dreary room though, which was of vital importance, what with 7 or so hours left in the work day.

You're welcome

Dude, significant part of your team is old players

Every team in the league has young players that perform well. Any good team anyways
- Santo_44

Exactly, not something that can be questioned, and it doesnt change the teams performance, its just something that will catch up with them eventually.

Dude, significant part of your team is old players

Every team in the league has young players that perform well. Any good team anyways
- Santo_44

I'm not saying they're not important, just that your placing too much importance on them and maybe not enough on the younger players.

But let's move on because I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine even if I do "see" your point.

Anyways, agree to disagree. I believe you all are underestimating the talent and importance of our younger players.

I did wake up this dreary room though, which was of vital importance, what with 7 or so hours left in the work day.

You're welcome
- RickJames77

agree to disagree that factually the bruins have an older core than tampa?

lol jesus

Dude, significant part of your team is old players

Every team in the league has young players that perform well. Any good team anyways
- Santo_44

Chara is playing 23 minutes a night... That's flippin' nuts.

I'm not saying they're not important, just that your placing too much importance on them and maybe not enough on the younger players.

But let's move on because I'm not going to change your mind and you won't change mine even if I do "see" your point.
- RickJames77

I think you are placing too much on the young guys. Every team has young players that are playing well. It's not a luxury anymore

Chara is playing 23 minutes a night... That's flippin' nuts.
- PatC80

he was a pile of donkey poop last year too. i thought he was done

Anyways, agree to disagree. I believe you all are underestimating the talent and importance of our younger players.

I did wake up this dreary room though, which was of vital importance, what with 7 or so hours left in the work day.

You're welcome
- RickJames77

No one is underestimating Pastrnak, Carlo, McAvoy or any of the kids. The Bruins have some good young pieces, but Chara, Bergeron, Nash, Marchand, Backes, Rask and Krejci are not young anymore.. That's a significant number of players, many of which are still "core" guys.

agree to disagree that factually the bruins have an older core than tampa?

lol jesus
- daeth

I agree with that...That wasn't my intention, nor my argument. I never once said that. All I said was that this Boston is old thing isn't entirely true. I never once said our core wasn't aging just that I believe more importance should be placed on the young players and that this "core weighting" of players' age IMO wasn't exactly the best way to judge our age.

I think you are placing too much on the young guys. Every team has young players that are playing well. It's not a luxury anymore
- Santo_44

with the cap it's a must. you need a constant flow of young good cheap depth players. it's kinda the thing that edmonton forgot about.

I agree with that...That wasn't my intention, nor my argument. I never once said that. All I said was that this Boston is old thing isn't entirely true. I never once said our core wasn't aging just that I believe more importance should be placed on the young players and that this "core weighting" of players' age IMO wasn't exactly the best way to judge our age.
- RickJames77

that their core is older doesn't really matter this year, if anything it's a good thing since it's a core that has won a cup. can't really say if the younger guys can replace the older guys as time goes on until they are actually given that opportunity either. bergeron at least is imo impossible to replace.

No one is underestimating Pastrnak, Carlo, McAvoy or any of the kids. The Bruins have some good young pieces, but Chara, Bergeron, Nash, Marchand, Backes, Rask and Krejci are not young anymore.. That's a significant number of players, many of which are still "core" guys.
- PatC80

Carlo sucks.

Chara is playing 23 minutes a night... That's flippin' nuts.
- PatC80

But those aren't important mins

I agree with that...That wasn't my intention, nor my argument. I never once said that. All I said was that this Boston is old thing isn't entirely true. I never once said our core wasn't aging just that I believe more importance should be placed on the young players and that this "core weighting" of players' age IMO wasn't exactly the best way to judge our age.
- RickJames77

What way would be better then that. Without the core players do you really think the Bruins would be a good team? Truly unlikely, however I have loved the Bruins drafting, so maybe they keep that up, and continue to be good in the future and dont take a huge step back, but its doubtful.

Either way, inevitably age catches up with everyone, so therefore in the case of who i'd rather see the Leafs play in the playoffs, ill take my chances against the aging core. Not that either is a good choice, just looking for anything to tip the scales.

The fact is the NHL has an awful playoff format, and one of the best teams in the east will be gone in the first round, for dumb NHL reasoning

that their core is older doesn't really matter this year, if anything it's a good thing since it's a core that has won a cup. can't really say if the younger guys can replace the older guys as time goes on until they are actually given that opportunity either. bergeron at least is imo impossible to replace.
- daeth

He is a cyborg. No, ah, no real reason to worry about him not playing for eternity. Right? Right?