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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:44 PM ET
That is just a small core group
- DaveofYork


okay, that was well played
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:45 PM ET
If having my avatar keeps you from singling out posters, you can have it. Be happy that i cant mimic your level of intellectual incompetence
- KINGKENZO


avatar thieves should be permanently banned
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:47 PM ET
I'll sign a petition to make you the PK coach. Have you ever had a puck fired at your face?
- YuenglingJagr


A guy on my team had that happen on Friday. Hit him just above his right eye. A quarter inch lower and he'd be blind.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
A guy on my team had that happen on Friday. Hit him just above his right eye. A quarter inch lower and he'd be blind.
- Scoob

Well at least he will get all the chicks that came to watch his beer league game
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:48 PM ET
It's all perfectly simple.

October = More than ready
November= Ready steady
December = Fairly ready
January = No longer ready
February = Still not ready
March = Totally ready again, but only as an emergency when Oduya was hurt

- Feanor


Here is a more accurate assessment.

October = Thought him ready (personally I disagreed)
November= not really ready losing confidence
December = clearly not ready confidence lost
January = Get confidence back
February = confidence back
March = Probably ready and spot becomes available. Applies lessons learned and does better.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
5-0-0 in games I attend. Anyone wish to start a GoFundMe page for tickets for the remaining home games?
- Pelle31Forever



Someone get this guy a ticket plan!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 19 @ 1:50 PM ET
Here is a more accurate assessment.

October = Thought him ready (personally I disagreed)
November= not really ready losing confidence
December = clearly not ready confidence lost
January = Get confidence back
February = confidence back
March = Probably ready and spot becomes available. Applies lessons learned and does better.

- MBFlyerfan



Too wordy

October-mid-March = Flyers are franking morons

Mid-March = finally the Flyers figured out what everyone else has known for months
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 19 @ 1:55 PM ET
Here is a more accurate assessment.

October = Thought him ready (personally I disagreed)
November= not really ready losing confidence
December = clearly not ready confidence lost
January = Get confidence back
February = confidence back
March = Probably ready and spot becomes available. Applies lessons learned and does better.

- MBFlyerfan

or perhaps the most accurate asssessment

October 2016 = ready for the AHL
Nov-Dec 2016 = begins to adjust to pro hockey
Jan 2016-April 2016 = becomes top pair AHL defenseman/is dominant

October 2017 = ready for NHL
Nov - Dec 2017 = adjusting to NHL
Jan- Feb = dominantes a league he already dominated
March = goes back to the league he should be in
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 19 @ 1:59 PM ET
Too wordy

October-mid-March = Flyers are franking morons

Mid-March = finally the Flyers figured out what everyone else has known for months

- Scoob

not really

Hextall put him on the team because he was ready. He sent him back to the AHL because he wanted him to play. He was always ready to make the adjustment, he just needed to do it consistently. I wouldn't even say that after a few games he has done it consistently. I am just confident he will.

I will also say that I believe he works better as a pairing with AMac. I was never a big fan of Sanheim/Gudas
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:07 PM ET
or perhaps the most accurate asssessment

October 2016 = ready for the AHL
Nov-Dec 2016 = begins to adjust to pro hockey
Jan 2016-April 2016 = becomes top pair AHL defenseman/is dominant

October 2017 = ready for NHL
Nov - Dec 2017 = adjusting to NHL
Jan- Feb = dominantes a league he already dominated
March = goes back to the league he should be in

- YuenglingJagr



I get it now. You actually think he was ready when clearly he was not. I saw a player that wasn't adjusting, not so much because of his skill level, but because of his confidence level. He was getting manhandled way too often and it really affected his play.

There is too much at stake for the NHL squad to be babysitting a rookie through his crisis of confidence. I guess what they saw day in and day out on the ice at practice, games, in the locker room, and meetings, trumps the fans ability to read how a player is coping watching a broadcast on tv 2 hours every few days.

The 19 year old kid needed time to get some of that swagger back and the organization rightfully concluded that he should regain that in the AHL. There he could apply the lessons he learned in the NHL and come back a more ready player.

It's not rocket science.

In the meantime, the team gets in to a solid playoff position without him. I guess if he was in the lineup this team would be a Presidents trophy contender (obviously sarcasm)


landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 19 @ 2:08 PM ET
It's all perfectly simple.

October = More than ready
November= Ready steady
December = Fairly ready
January = No longer ready
February = Still not ready
March = Totally ready again, but only as an emergency when Oduya was hurt

- Feanor

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 19 @ 2:14 PM ET
Here is a more accurate assessment.

October = Thought him ready (personally I disagreed)
November= not really ready losing confidence
December = clearly not ready confidence lost
January = Get confidence back
February = confidence back
March = Probably ready and spot becomes available. Applies lessons learned and does better.

- MBFlyerfan


There was nothing wrong with his confidence in December. He played well and so did the team.

This is the same management group that left Lindblom in the AHL all the way until late February and only brought him up when Simmonds got hurt. Are we really supposed to believe that he was ready in February, but not the previous month when they called up Goulbourne (who Hextall insisted was not just a 5-6 minute player) to play 5-6 minutes per game?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 19 @ 2:16 PM ET
Its always a little funny to me that minds are lost when the Flyers are questioned on here.

Dear lord boys. Sack up.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
There was nothing wrong with his confidence in December. He played well and so did the team.
- Feanor




Ok, agree to disagree.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
Its always a little funny to me that minds are lost when the Flyers are questioned on here.

Dear lord boys. Sack up.

- flyer_nutter



here we go.....
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:18 PM ET
Its always a little funny to me that minds are lost when the Flyers are questioned on here.

Dear lord boys. Sack up.

- flyer_nutter

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:19 PM ET

- hereticpride



flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
here we go.....

- MBFlyerfan


Believe me its nothing personal, I just find it kind of crazy.

Carry on. Its mildly entertaining.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 19 @ 2:22 PM ET
I get it now. You actually think he was ready when clearly he was not. I saw a player that wasn't adjusting, not so much because of his skill level, but because of his confidence level. He was getting manhandled way too often and it really affected his play.

There is too much at stake for the NHL squad to be babysitting a rookie through his crisis of confidence. I guess what they saw day in and day out on the ice at practice, games, in the locker room, and meetings, trumps the fans ability to read how a player is coping watching a broadcast on tv 2 hours every few days.

The 19 year old kid needed time to get some of that swagger back and the organization rightfully concluded that he should regain that in the AHL. There he could apply the lessons he learned in the NHL and come back a more ready player.

It's not rocket science.

In the meantime, the team gets in to a solid playoff position without him. I guess if he was in the lineup this team would be a Presidents trophy contender (obviously sarcasm)

- MBFlyerfan

He was adjusting...it doesn't happen overnight. Not everyone gets to join the league running the point on one of the best power plays in the league. Maybe you think he was getting manhandled. He definitely didn't go to the AHL for 2 months to put on muscle. If he was not ready, he would not have been here. Hextall might as well have that tattooed on his forehead

I also never claimed to know more about the situation than the team...just more than people that don't watch Phantoms games. You clearly value "confidence" more than I do. That is fine. I feel differently. I think playing a string of good games at the NHL level would give him more confidence to compete in the NHL than a league he has already dominated, but who knows? Either way I know Sanheim with 60+ games experience is better than Sanheim with 40 games of experience and I doubt they are anywhere different in the standings.

He is back and is adding exactly what the defense needed him to add. Can only be happy about that
Thors-Hammer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Daytona Beach, FL
Joined: 08.12.2013

Mar 19 @ 2:24 PM ET
Big win last night, plus the Devils lost. Nice to see Lindblom get his 1st goal. So far, he seems to be in the right spots on the ice and is not a big liability on the defensive side of the ice. I expect more scoring from him. Simmonds got 2 last night. Hopefully he goes on one of his scoring streaks? I liked the defense with both Hagg and Sandheim playing and Manning sitting. Maybe give, Goudas and Amac a day off before the playoffs start? Hopefully Coots finally gets #29/100?

Raffl is out 2 weeks. What will the lines look like now???
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 19 @ 2:25 PM ET
Its always a little funny to me that minds are lost when the Flyers are questioned on here.

Dear lord boys. Sack up.

- flyer_nutter



It's sort of like when anyone questions Coots..not that we know anyone that would ever do that.. lol

Get the damn 30th goal Coots.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:25 PM ET
Believe me its nothing personal, I just find it kind of crazy.

Carry on. Its mildly entertaining.

- flyer_nutter



I'll say this much. I do think the organization made a mistake starting the season with Sanheim in the NHL.

Personally I thought Morin was the most solid guy out of the three rookies.

It was somewhat of a shock to me that Hagg and Sanheim made the team and Morin did not (regardless of his 4 game West Coast trip with the team)

Call me a company guy if you want, but it seems like your default position is to throw out insults. Even when not provoked in to it.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 19 @ 2:26 PM ET

Raffl is out 2 weeks. What will the lines look like now???

- Thors-Hammer

uglier
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Mar 19 @ 2:26 PM ET
He was adjusting...it doesn't happen overnight. Not everyone gets to join the league running the point on one of the best power plays in the league. Maybe you think he was getting manhandled. He definitely didn't go to the AHL for 2 months to put on muscle. If he was not ready, he would not have been here. Hextall might as well have that tattooed on his forehead

I also never claimed to know more about the situation than the team...just more than people that don't watch Phantoms games. You clearly value "confidence" more than I do. That is fine. I feel differently. I think playing a string of good games at the NHL level would give him more confidence to compete in the NHL than a league he has already dominated, but who knows? Either way I know Sanheim with 60+ games experience is better than Sanheim with 40 games of experience and I doubt they are anywhere different in the standings.

He is back and is adding exactly what the defense needed him to add. Can only be happy about that

- YuenglingJagr


The hope for me is that both him and Hagg get to play the remainder of the games this year. Regular season and playoffs (if they make it).

Morin needs to be playing next season as well whether its at the cost of Gudas/Mac. Would be kind of a joke if not. That D core is coming together thankfully.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 19 @ 2:27 PM ET
He was adjusting...it doesn't happen overnight. Not everyone gets to join the league running the point on one of the best power plays in the league. Maybe you think he was getting manhandled. He definitely didn't go to the AHL for 2 months to put on muscle. If he was not ready, he would not have been here. Hextall might as well have that tattooed on his forehead

I also never claimed to know more about the situation than the team...just more than people that don't watch Phantoms games. You clearly value "confidence" more than I do. That is fine. I feel differently. I think playing a string of good games at the NHL level would give him more confidence to compete in the NHL than a league he has already dominated, but who knows? Either way I know Sanheim with 60+ games experience is better than Sanheim with 40 games of experience and I doubt they are anywhere different in the standings.

He is back and is adding exactly what the defense needed him to add. Can only be happy about that

- YuenglingJagr


I am definitely happy about that. I would say he is clearly a different player so far based on the few games he has been here. That is just my opinion.
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