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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 16 @ 3:41 PM ET
The coach has them focus on point shots more than any other team in the league. It's no surprise that has led to three straight years of anemic 5 on 5 scoring.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...d,gte,1&sort=goalsFor5on5

- Feanor


Being near the top of that list has paid big dividends for the Wild and others.
Doctor DOOM
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where the bad things are
Joined: 12.13.2017

Mar 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
The coach has them focus on point shots more than any other team in the league. It's no surprise that has led to three straight years of anemic 5 on 5 scoring.

http://www.nhl.com/stats/...d,gte,1&sort=goalsFor5on5

- Feanor


Flyers 5v5:


Pens 5v5:


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Mar 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
on another note-

would ya at the right price

sign Kovalchuk this summer???

- wcorvette


For the vet. minimum for 1 year?

Sure.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 16 @ 3:50 PM ET
The Flyers should definitely move Simmonds. The question is on timing. I'd wager that his value would be highest at the draft, but I could see Hextall (mistakenly) waiting until the deadline to move him to see how the season plays out with Simmonds on the Flyers.
- StepfordSam

Hextall is all about the future. I think Simmonds get moved at the draft. The only current players over 25 that will still be on this roster when this team is contending will be Giroux and Voracek
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 3:55 PM ET
no? because?
- hammarby31

basically...age mostly. I wonder how he would hold up over an NHL season. His ability to score would standout here, but I question his ability to find space here. He is liek 34 right now I think?

I can't say he hasn't struck me as someone who cares most about putting up points, that could be a little unfair though. I thought the same thing about Radulov and he proved me wrong. I've seen quotes from guys like Brodeur who say Kovy is a good teammate and presence
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 16 @ 3:56 PM ET
Hextall is all about the future. I think Simmonds get moved at the draft. The only current players over 25 that will still be on this roster when this team is contending will be Giroux and Voracek
- BiggE


I think it all depends on return. There are a number of guys who could be on the market who might be undersold vs what hextall wants for simmer. Guys like pacioretty etc. I also think he had better value when he had an extra year on his deal now hes just another guy one last run before he gets paid. I'm hoping for a late 1st and solid prospect
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 3:57 PM ET
Being near the top of that list has paid big dividends for the Wild and others.
- Scoob

I thought the Golden Knights were good until I read that
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 16 @ 3:59 PM ET
Flyers 5v5:


Pens 5v5:

- Doctor DOOM


this is very interesting. seriously.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 16 @ 4:03 PM ET
Flyers 5v5:


Pens 5v5:

- Doctor DOOM


Looks like we have a low front coming in over the left and right faceoff circle with a decent amount of moisture. Could be a big storm. If the blue converges with the red at the blueline, we could get some thunder-snow out of this system.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:05 PM ET
Looks like we have a low front coming in over the left and right faceoff circle with a decent amount of moisture. Could be a big storm. If the blue converges with the red at the blueline, we could get some thunder-snow out of this system.
- hockeylover

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
this is very interesting. seriously.
- hammarby31


I love the dot out in to 70 to 80 feet mark on the pens chart.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 16 @ 4:07 PM ET
Looks like we have a low front coming in over the left and right faceoff circle with a decent amount of moisture. Could be a big storm. If the blue converges with the red at the blueline, we could get some thunder-snow out of this system.
- hockeylover


Crud
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 16 @ 4:11 PM ET
basically...age mostly. I wonder how he would hold up over an NHL season. His ability to score would standout here, but I question his ability to find space here. He is liek 34 right now I think?

I can't say he hasn't struck me as someone who cares most about putting up points, that could be a little unfair though. I thought the same thing about Radulov and he proved me wrong. I've seen quotes from guys like Brodeur who say Kovy is a good teammate and presence

- YuenglingJagr

He’s big, still a good skater and very highly skilled. If he’s willing to sign a one or two year deal for a reasonable cap hit, I’d sign him right up.

That being said, he’ll likely want to sign with a contender so I very much doubt he’d even consider coming here.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:15 PM ET
He’s big, still a good skater and very highly skilled. If he’s willing to sign a one or two year deal for a reasonable cap hit, I’d sign him right up.

That being said, he’ll likely want to sign with a contender so I very much doubt he’d even consider coming here.

- BiggE

Yeah I noticed he still seemed very strong, especially his shot. I really don't watch the KHL too much
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Mar 16 @ 4:23 PM ET
Being near the top of that list has paid big dividends for the Wild and others.
- Scoob


The Wild have been a significantly better team than the Flyers over that span, and as far back as the lockout. I'm not sure how a fan of a team with two playoff series win this decade can afford to point fingers at Minnesota who also have two.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
Yeah I noticed he still seemed very strong, especially his shot. I really don't watch the KHL too much
- YuenglingJagr

He’d certainly be an upgrade to Filppula/Raffl/Weal/Lehterä/Weise/Read/
Leier etc...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
The Wild have been a significantly better team than the Flyers over that span, and as far back as the lockout. I'm not sure how a fan of a team with two playoff series win this decade can afford to point fingers at Minnesota who also have two.
- Feanor


Kind of my point. Your singled-out stat, in isolation, doesn't tell much of a story.

But for fun I checked just this season only. Flyers are 13th, so I guess they're doing better at that this season. :shrug:
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 16 @ 4:42 PM ET
He’d certainly be an upgrade to Filppula/Raffl/Weal/Lehterä/Weise/Read/
Leier etc...

- BiggE


I really don't see why he would be interested in us. But I mean sure anybody who makes us better and is willing to take a 1 year deal is cool with me
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 16 @ 4:45 PM ET
More great analysis of Hakstol's coaching from the guy who resolutely defended Hak playing Chris VandeVelde in 81 games last season. The same VdV who could not get a job in the NHL the very next season at the ripe old age of 30. Overplaying stiffs is not good coaching.


- Feanor



I’m not sure how anyone can argue that Hakstol has done a good job...they are a middle of the road team....just like last year....just like his first year. Has Hakstol been some what limited due to Hextalls decisions....yes he has. I’m not sure...today....that he deserves to be fired but if they don’t make the playoffs after building such a large lead then I don’t think that reflects well on the coach....how could it.....I remain on the fence with the coach, but in the end the NHL is about winning and if Hakstol can’t then it’s the GMs job to find some one that can.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:46 PM ET
Kind of my point. Your singled-out stat, in isolation, doesn't tell much of a story.

But for fun I checked just this season only. Flyers are 13th, so I guess they're doing better at that this season. :shrug:

- Scoob

There was a pretty good stint there for a while (around the time when Ghost/Provy got put together) where I felt they were getting better quality shots. They were doing it earlier with 28-14-93 too.

I don't get too worked up over charts like that anymore or too many team stats because for a team like the Flyers, they're like two separate teams. They're a completely different team when Provy/Ghost are out there with the top two lines.

They're getting back to their lower quality chance ways right now. He was pointing to 5v5 btw, which makes them 25th.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
Crud
- Scoob


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 16 @ 4:52 PM ET
take a guess on my feelings.
- hammarby31

guess mine
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 16 @ 4:55 PM ET

- hammarby31


lol!
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 16 @ 4:55 PM ET
Flyers 5v5:


Pens 5v5:

- Doctor DOOM

Awesome graphic
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
He’d certainly be an upgrade to Filppula/Raffl/Weal/Lehterä/Weise/Read/
Leier etc...

- BiggE

That he would...I think he is going to sign for more than people expect, but we will see
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