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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Mar 15 @ 1:06 PM ET
Here is a possibility that has not been discussed:

Lets say that we finish with the 9th worst record and the lotto balls do not fall our way.

So we are now drafting 9th ( or worse if we fall a couple of spots ). This might be the time to spring an offer sheet on a team. I am thinking of 23 year old Matt Dumba, a right-handed defenseman. Good , solid player, would be able to play next year on top pairing with Skjei, and still young enough to be part of rebuild. Tender him an offer sheet that Wild wouldn't be able/willing to match.

Even if it cost us our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks----- it should be considered. We would be getting a player that might be more valuable than what we could get at 9th overall. We KNOW that he is an NHL player. We have the cap space and that would certainly jumpstart our rebuild and add a player at a premium position.
Thoughts?

- TommyGTrain

He's unknown for this board. Can someone...?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:07 PM ET
With the 29th pick in the draft, I wouldn't mind a good player with size that maybe has a bit of Wayne Simmonds in him. It's basically just a function of where you draft these kids, and if you are looking for the home run upside guy with a particular pick or someone who will be a solid player.
- Pete V

Yeah when you have as many picks in the top 93 picks, as the Rangers do, you can definitely afford to do it, especially later in the first round. Not sure he'll make it all the way to the end of the first, but I could definitely see him going between 20-25, or so.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:07 PM ET
Here is a possibility that has not been discussed:

Lets say that we finish with the 9th worst record and the lotto balls do not fall our way.

So we are now drafting 9th ( or worse if we fall a couple of spots ). This might be the time to spring an offer sheet on a team. I am thinking of 23 year old Matt Dumba, a right-handed defenseman. Good , solid player, would be able to play next year on top pairing with Skjei, and still young enough to be part of rebuild. Tender him an offer sheet that Wild wouldn't be able/willing to match.

Even if it cost us our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks----- it should be considered. We would be getting a player that might be more valuable than what we could get at 9th overall. We KNOW that he is an NHL player. We have the cap space and that would certainly jumpstart our rebuild and add a player at a premium position.
Thoughts?

- TommyGTrain


yeah but, it would be the 2019 draft picks that would be the compensation for signing an RFA, not this year's

even with Trouba, no less Dumba, they could be worst overall next year, it's possible, can't risk blowing their first ever first overall pick on an offer sheet
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 1:08 PM ET
yeah but, it would be the 2019 draft picks that would be the compensation for signing an RFA, not this year's

even with Trouba, no less Dumba, they could be worst overall next year, it's possible, can't risk blowing their first ever first overall pick on an offer sheet

- jimbo83


when did Matt Dumba become Bobby (frank)ing Orr around here?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 15 @ 1:08 PM ET
Here is a possibility that has not been discussed:

Lets say that we finish with the 9th worst record and the lotto balls do not fall our way.

So we are now drafting 9th ( or worse if we fall a couple of spots ). This might be the time to spring an offer sheet on a team. I am thinking of 23 year old Matt Dumba, a right-handed defenseman. Good , solid player, would be able to play next year on top pairing with Skjei, and still young enough to be part of rebuild. Tender him an offer sheet that Wild wouldn't be able/willing to match.

Even if it cost us our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks----- it should be considered. We would be getting a player that might be more valuable than what we could get at 9th overall. We KNOW that he is an NHL player. We have the cap space and that would certainly jumpstart our rebuild and add a player at a premium position.
Thoughts?

- TommyGTrain

Nope. Dumba has never ever ever been discussed here
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
my bet is they go 6-5 the rest of the way
- mrn22

11 and frankin 0 and we are all buying plane tickets to Tampa
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
when did Matt Dumba become Bobby (frank)ing Orr around here?
- mrn22

Since that one guy shoved it down our throats everyday?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:11 PM ET
Here is a possibility that has not been discussed:

Lets say that we finish with the 9th worst record and the lotto balls do not fall our way.

So we are now drafting 9th ( or worse if we fall a couple of spots ). This might be the time to spring an offer sheet on a team. I am thinking of 23 year old Matt Dumba, a right-handed defenseman. Good , solid player, would be able to play next year on top pairing with Skjei, and still young enough to be part of rebuild. Tender him an offer sheet that Wild wouldn't be able/willing to match.

Even if it cost us our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks----- it should be considered. We would be getting a player that might be more valuable than what we could get at 9th overall. We KNOW that he is an NHL player. We have the cap space and that would certainly jumpstart our rebuild and add a player at a premium position.
Thoughts?

- TommyGTrain

Offer sheets aren't real
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Mar 15 @ 1:11 PM ET
11 and frankin 0 and we are all buying plane tickets to Tampa
- TPC

Honestly I think they have 2% chance right now, and that’s with an 11-0 record haha
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Mar 15 @ 1:13 PM ET
Offer sheets aren't real
- eichiefs9


I wouldnt trade a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Dumba so why that (frank) would you piss another team off and give all that up
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:14 PM ET
I wouldnt trade a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Dumba so why that (frank) would you piss another team off and give all that up
- mrn22

I dunno about that, I would probably make that trade. I mean not a top-10 first, but I would absolutely trade anything north of pick #10 (or around there) plus a 2nd and 3rd for him. He turned the corner big-time this year.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
I wouldnt trade a 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Dumba so why that (frank) would you piss another team off and give all that up
- mrn22


if they took Marc Staal back in the deal, I'd give them that deal, HOLLA
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:21 PM ET
if they took Marc Staal back in the deal, I'd give them that deal, HOLLA
- jimbo83

jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:22 PM ET

- eichiefs9


Rangers would have to eat some

but, I don't see a need for Marc Staal on Minny unless they are looking to keep Eric happy
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 15 @ 1:27 PM ET
Rangers would have to eat some

but, I don't see a need for Marc Staal on Minny unless they are looking to keep Eric happy

- jimbo83

Minnesota really butt F'ed themselves with those Suter/Parise deals
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
Minnesota really butt F'ed themselves with those Suter/Parise deals
- eichiefs9


yeah they did, my god
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
Minnesota really butt F'ed themselves with those Suter/Parise deals
- eichiefs9



It’s the butt (frank) that keeps giving for years and years and years....
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:28 PM ET
It’s the butt (frank) that keeps giving for years and years and years....
- smellmyfinger


until 2025
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:30 PM ET
until 2025
- jimbo83


Good lord ...
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:31 PM ET
until 2025
- jimbo83



The most recent CBA really put a hurt on some of those retirement contracts. Parise, Suter, etc. that Shea Weber contract is an absolute abomination now.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
The most recent CBA really put a hurt on some of those retirement contracts. Parise, Suter, etc. that Shea Weber contract is an absolute abomination now.
- smellmyfinger


I think the cap re-capture thing still kills Nashville on the Shea Weber deal

lots of hands in the cookie jar on that contract, the Flyers signed him to it
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:32 PM ET
The most recent CBA really put a hurt on some of those retirement contracts. Parise, Suter, etc. that Shea Weber contract is an absolute abomination now.
- smellmyfinger


And the Habs traded Subban for that Weber contract.

You have to wonder sometimes whether some of these GMs have any idea what they are doing.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 15 @ 1:33 PM ET
I think the cap re-capture thing still kills Nashville on the Shea Weber deal

lots of hands in the cookie jar on that contract, the Flyers signed him to it

- jimbo83



I see a lot of players on the Arizona Coyotes in the future that will never dress for a game for them.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
I see a lot of players on the Arizona Coyotes in the future that will never dress for a game for them.
- smellmyfinger


I wonder of they'll be amnesty buyouts after the next inevitable lockout
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Mar 15 @ 1:35 PM ET
I see a lot of players on the Arizona Coyotes in the future that will never dress for a game for them.
- smellmyfinger





Nice to have a franchise that basically serves as a toxic waste dump.
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