4 point game tonight got to come out and play 60 full
minutes...which we have yet to see from this team this season.
- dragonoffrost

You didn't think the wins against the Caps (2-1, 8-2) or the early-season Florida games were 60 minute efforts? To me, those were the 3 best games they've played all year, and they were able to keep the pressure on all game long.

To revisit a topic from yesterday about the development plan they are using and Hart being the central piece. I see that but I also see him as the last piece. I think they can use Elliott and Mrazek and contend for the cup when the pieces they are currently developing are here next year and the following one, which could really be Hart's rookie year.

You didn't think the wins against the Caps (2-1, 8-2) or the early-season Florida games were 60 minute efforts? To me, those were the 3 best games they've played all year, and they were able to keep the pressure on all game long.
- jmatchett383

If we have to go back to that early to find them it's not a good sign.

Nope.

And say they play well in win.

I see more benefits from making the playoffs then missing out and getting a prospect who may or may not be with the Flyers in 3 years.
- J35Bacher

Absolutely. Granted, they lucked into the #2 spot last year, and they've done well with picks in the back-end of the first round, but having the young players playing NHL playoff hockey would be more beneficial than a player who won't likely be an impact player for 5 years.

If we have to go back to that early to find them it's not a good sign.
- dragonoffrost

True, although both Columbus games in February were pretty good games where they really had to dig in as well. So while they've been few and far between, they CAN do it.

To revisit a topic from yesterday about the development plan they are using and Hart being the central piece. I see that but I also see him as the last piece. I think they can use Elliott and Mrazek and contend for the cup when the pieces they are currently developing are here next year and the following one, which could really be Hart's rookie year.
- dragonoffrost

I see the goalies going like this:

This year: Mrazek, whoever is healthy or Lyon

18-19: Mrazek/Elliott, Hart in Lehigh, I think Mrazek gets resigned since i am not sure you can trust Neuvirth to be healthy and Mrazek is also young enough he gives you tim to develop hart and not rush him.

19-20: Mrazek/Hart, Sandstrom in Lehigh. Mrazek and Hart can split time and one could eventually win the job out right. Flyers should be a competitive playoff team so you don't have to rush the rookie goalie to play 65 games or be the man.

20-21: Harts team. Flyers young players have had solid development time and your franchise goalie is ready to roll.

I see the goalies going like this:

This year: Mrazek, whoever is healthy or Lyon
- J35Bacher

I see no reason to resign Mrazek with the other goalies around. Saves a pick and maybe you even trade his rights for a pick

If they miss the playoffs this year I will be pissed. They basically need to go .500 the rest of the way to make it. Coming into the season I would have been ecstatic to make the playoffs. If they miss the playoffs based on the current situation that would be a pretty big collapse.

I see no reason to resign Mrazek with the other goalies around. Saves a pick and maybe you even trade his rights for a pick
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah I see Hart/Lyon to start in AHL next year. Elliot/Stolarz/Some other guy? to start in the NHL.

Hart becomes NHL starter late next year or to start 2019-2020

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Which team am I on if I say I will be pretty annoyed if they don't make the playoffs (which they will)? I am all about getting good draft picks, but only when it's clear they are bad. There are good enough players on this team to get them in. Missing at this point would be very disappointing.
- YuenglingJagr

Considering how many points ahead they were from the cut off point just a few weeks ago, if they miss the playoffs I will be really disappointed.

random PSA: Nathan MacKinnon needs to win the Hart

Bill,

Did you watch or know anyone that watched Stolarz last night? Just saw he had 5 GA, but I want to know how he looked

I see the goalies going like this:

This year: Mrazek, whoever is healthy or Lyon

18-19: Mrazek/Elliott, Hart in Lehigh, I think Mrazek gets resigned since i am not sure you can trust Neuvirth to be healthy and Mrazek is also young enough he gives you tim to develop hart and not rush him.

19-20: Mrazek/Hart, Sandstrom in Lehigh. Mrazek and Hart can split time and one could eventually win the job out right. Flyers should be a competitive playoff team so you don't have to rush the rookie goalie to play 65 games or be the man.

20-21: Harts team. Flyers young players have had solid development time and your franchise goalie is ready to roll.
- J35Bacher

That’s pretty much how I see it too.

Missing the playoffs from the position they were in at the end of February would be a clear sign that heads need to roll in the coaching staff. Starting with the guy in charge of the league's 30th best PK unit.

I see no reason to resign Mrazek with the other goalies around. Saves a pick and maybe you even trade his rights for a pick
- YuenglingJagr

I do because I expect this team to be a playoff team moving forward and I am not sure what the health of Neuvirth is and I can't have another year of losing both goalies.

Losing the pick is the cost of business. But it's not like they couldn't recoup a 3rd rounder in a trade. I mean the Flyers could get it back depending on what St. Louis does with this years 1st rounder or maybe they move someone at the draft like a Weal or Gudas or maybe even Simmonds.

And i just like Mrazek compared to the other options out there next year.

Considering how many points ahead they were from the cut off point just a few weeks ago, if they miss the playoffs I will be really disappointed.
- nastyflyergirl

Me too. Inexcusable to miss the playoffs imo.

I see the goalies going like this:

This year: Mrazek, whoever is healthy or Lyon

18-19: Mrazek/Elliott, Hart in Lehigh, I think Mrazek gets resigned since i am not sure you can trust Neuvirth to be healthy and Mrazek is also young enough he gives you tim to develop hart and not rush him.
- J35Bacher

Going with Mzraek and Elliot would mean putting both Lyon and Stolarz on waivers, and Neuvirth as well if he couldn't be traded.

4 points away from 1st or 3 points away from being out, gotta love this division.

Team isn't scoring and has to solve Bob, my hopes aren't high for tonight. Hopefully they can pull out a regulation win.

Yup
It’s pretty much a no lose situation
- BiggE

In a season where Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Ghost, Konecny and Provorov are all on pace to or have already set career highs in points, choking away a playoff spot in the last month when they had a 10 point buffer would be nothing short of a disaster. You can't expect players to have confidence going forward in a coaching staff that engineered a collapse of that magnitude.

I'm with the people that would be really disappointed if they didn't make the playoffs. It hasn't been fun getting in every other year. Getting higher draft picks is cool and all, but I'd rather watch the Flyers in the playoffs.

I'm with the people that would be really disappointed if they didn't make the playoffs. It hasn't been fun getting in every other year. Getting higher draft picks is cool and all, but I'd rather watch the Flyers in the playoffs.
- Ftown19125

Same...I am dying to throw something on the ice

In a season where Giroux, Voracek, Couturier, Ghost, Konecny and Provorov are all on pace to or have already set career highs in points, choking away a playoff spot in the last month when they had a 10 point buffer would be nothing short of a disaster. You can't expect players to have confidence going forward in a coaching staff that engineered a collapse of that magnitude.
- Feanor

Long term it would certainly be a disappointment and a letdown but it would not be a disaster. That's way too strong. The players would be most responsible for that collapse not the coaching staff. The same coaching staff was present when they went something like 29-9-3 over a 3 month stretch. I'd like to see a change to the PK coach regardless but I don't see any coaching changes being made even if they miss the playoffs

Long term it would certainly be a disappointment and a letdown but it would not be a disaster. That's way too strong. The players would be most responsible for that collapse not the coaching staff. The same coaching staff was present when they went something like 29-9-3 over a 3 month stretch. I'd like to see a change to the PK coach regardless but I don't see any coaching changes being made even if they miss the playoffs
- MJL

You said streaks don't matter, only total points at the end of the season, but then you keep bringing up 29-9-3. At least try and be consistent.

The only way it wouldn't be a disaster would be if Hextall realized that two straight non-playoff seasons should mean the end for both Lappy and Hak. After all, he was very clear that "we're a playoff team".

You said streaks don't matter, only total points at the end of the season, but then you keep bringing up 29-9-3. At least try and be consistent.

The only way it wouldn't be a disaster would be if Hextall realized that two straight non-playoff seasons should mean the end for both Lappy and Hak. After all, he was very clear that "we're a playoff team".
- Feanor

I mean I have no idea, but I don't think Hak gets fired regardless. Maybe if they miss next year as well.