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Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM ET
The (frank) is up with Florida and when do they plan on making those 3 games up?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:08 PM ET
That's six in one hand, half-dozen in the other, though -- neither of us can prove the negative because yeah, they have deadweight, but I am of the belief that if you have that deadweight, what's the difference between the not-skilled-enough skill player and the not-skilled-enough grinder?

At least that grinder gives you a chance to win a 50-50 puck by going TO it and through somebody, instead of the "stick check/sweep check and hope"

- AllInForFlyers

Like I said, bottom line is to eliminate deadweight. Period. My mind is telling me grinders are slow. That's what I want to stay away from. Far away.

That being said, a grinder like PEB- no problems there. If that's the kind of player you're talking about then sure. Stick him on the 4th line, no question as I don't consider him dead weight, but he's definitely a 4th liner.

I'm talking deadweight as in a player who is both slow and unskilled. Just- does nothing well. Hope I'm making more sense.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM ET
it, we must esket
- Mordecai

feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 15 @ 8:09 PM ET
lehterrible
Bigjohnston
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: London, ON
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Bigjohnston
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: London, ON
Joined: 08.05.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
Heads will explode when we collapse late in the season and miss the playoffs. But many will just say we always were a bubble team and it’s ok. I think the culture with this team needs to change a bit some how
- Buzzo



It will not be ok if there’s a collapse...anyone that would suggest that doesn’t understand professional sports.....
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
(frank) this team and (frank) these bullpoop breakdowns.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
GOODBYE MRAZEK

not that it's all on him, but I have no confidence in him
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:10 PM ET
Cant give up that goal..
Good shot or not..
Ugh
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
Their goalies are pretty helpless one-on-one.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
Mrazek must be Chezch for "momentum kill "

Also why did Lehtera flip it in when it looked like he had numbers?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 15 @ 8:11 PM ET
Thank Christ Hakstol....10 shots ...6 saves.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:12 PM ET

- KINGKENZO

if we were at the log cabin, you would definitely have to do some chores for using this gif
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM ET
Thank Christ Hakstol....10 shots ...6 saves.
- landros 2


Mrazek only had a chance on the last goal TBH..
still that being said..he needed to make that save.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Mar 15 @ 8:13 PM ET
my mind is telling me grinders are slow. That's what I want to stay away from. Far away.

That being said, a grinder like PEB- no problems there. If that's the kind of player you're talking about then sure. Stick him on the 4th line, no question.

I'm talking deadweight as in a player who is both slow and unskilled. Just- does nothing well. Hope I'm making more sense

- Giroux_Is_God


No, I understand you and hear you -- it's not easy to have every kind of player in your lineup, but see that last play by Lehtera? That soft little flip that only winds up going the other way and winds up in your net?

That's what too much softness in your game leads to. Sometimes you need a few guys who are just north-south and rip that poop in -- and the Flyers have just too many of these "flip it and hope" players in the bottom six
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM ET
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dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:14 PM ET
G channeled Lappy
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:15 PM ET
Of course and now the Flyers best player goes out hurt..
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 15 @ 8:17 PM ET
The difference this game is Bob made that save on Patrick and 4 others like it and Mrazek lets the 4th goal in.

Sorry, but you can't win that way. Nothing is going right for these guys lately.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM ET
GOODBYE MRAZEK

not that it's all on him, but I have no confidence in him

- feelingkettle


Agreed, I’ve seen enough to legitimately question whether he can be consistent on a night to night basis. There’s a reason Holland was willing to trade him.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM ET
Lyon listening to Faith No More again
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 15 @ 8:18 PM ET
Mrazek only had a chance on the last goal TBH..
still that being said..he needed to make that save.

- opeth_pa



Sometimes a goalie has to make that tough save...yes they were tough, but he has to stop the (frank)ing puck once in a while....the guy at the other end seems to make tough saves...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 15 @ 8:19 PM ET
(frank) this team and (frank) these bullpoop breakdowns.
- MBFlyerfan

Too many mediocre players. When teams ramp it up, they just don’t have the depth to match it.

Look at the D. Sanheim is gonna be good, but right now he’s a 3rd pair guy. AMac and Gudas are 4/5 guys at best and Manning is no more than #7 on the depth chart on a good team. That leaves 2 guys to fill your top 4.

The forwards have the same problem. 2 4th line centers and right now, in a perfect world, a 19 year old Patrick would be 3rd on the depth chart. On the wing, they have only 3 guys who belong in the top 6 and 2 more, Simmer and Lindblom who can play at top 9 role. The rest are a mix of 4th liners and spare parts.

Then you add average goaltending to the mix and honestly it’s amazing that they are where they are right now. Giroux, Jake, TK, Coots, Ghost and Provorov, as good as they’ve been, just aren’t enough to get this team over the hump.

Thankfully, the system is deep and help is on the way.
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