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ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Mar 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
To be fair, I can think of one guy who has done exactly that.

Sidney Crosby

- Scabeh

I’d be suprised if Matthews takes a discount not even sure what a fair deal for him is
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:30 PM ET
Under, I like the additions made so far in Diaz, Garcia, Grichuk and even grandpa Granderson, but I still don't think there is enough talent on the team to go on any sort of deep playoff run..
- PatC80


so far 5 unders.
I think they are over...just a bit

I think FG has them as an 87 win team.



PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:37 PM ET
so far 5 unders.
I think they are over...just a bit

I think FG has them as an 87 win team.

- senstroll



If they stay healthy, maybe.... but as it stands, Donaldson is injured, Stroman is injured, Tulo is still out and Devon Travis will get hurt the next time he sneezes...
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:38 PM ET
I am the catcher and you are leading off on 1st


- TheMussel





It appears so.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Mar 14 @ 2:40 PM ET
Train another monkey to tip shots and bang in rebounds.

He'd be ok for the 1st couple years of a new contract....after that.

- Garnie

you offer him the same contract that Marleau got.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Mar 14 @ 2:42 PM ET
I guess he could have gotten a little more than 8,5M.... he WAS injured alot though.
- Scabeh



Lets not forget about the tax in the state he's in also.
he keeps most of the $$ he makes.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 14 @ 2:52 PM ET
"I'm willing to ask for 7M instead of 7.25 per year for the next 8 years"
- Scabeh


Nah... Leafs management should simply say... JvR you want the captaincy? (he'll say no)... but they can say you'll get Patches money.

4.5x 7 + C


seriously, they should try and sign him... he's unique with the Leafs community of wingers... he can score and he's consistent, who else can clean up around the net like he does.

don't pull a Chiarelli management move - like someone said earlier... Leafs will lose admirable depth and end up the like the oilers.

Komarov can be replaced for less money
Bozak will have to be replaced for less money

Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Mar 14 @ 2:53 PM ET
so far 5 unders.
I think they are over...just a bit

I think FG has them as an 87 win team.

- senstroll


Over .... I think they win at least 85
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Mar 14 @ 2:54 PM ET
Nah... Leafs management should simply say... JvR you want the captaincy? (he'll say no)... but they can say you'll get Patches money.

4.5x 7 + C


seriously, they should try and sign him... he's unique with the Leafs community of wingers... he can score and he's consistent, who else can clean up around the net like he does.

don't pull a Chiarelli management move - like someone said earlier... Leafs will lose admirable depth and end up the like the oilers.

Komarov can be replaced for less money
Bozak will have to be replaced for less money

- BorjeFan4Ever


I would keep Bozak but no more that a couple of years at 3 or 4 mill. If it's more then see you later. Uncle Leo can stay for another year at 2 mill. If it's more then out the door as well. JVR will be too expensive.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 14 @ 2:55 PM ET
I’d be suprised if Matthews takes a discount not even sure what a fair deal for him is
- ClarksonDavid


more than Eichel just because and less than McDavid.

86Million / 10 years - and then of course he'll get about 5 million/annual in various marketing income..

BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Mar 14 @ 2:56 PM ET
I would keep Bozak but no more that a couple of years at 3 or 4 mill. If it's more then see you later. Uncle Leo can stay for another year at 2 mill. If it's more then out the door as well. JVR will be too expensive.
- Matthews_Auston


agreed on JvR... .likely too expensive ... Leo at 2.5 would be fine... Bozak at 3x3 would be ideal
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
more than Eichel just because and less than McDavid.

86Million / 10 years - and then of course he'll get about 5 million/annual in various marketing income..

- BorjeFan4Ever



$86M over 8 yrs?

that's perfect for Matthews... Dude, already has the Porsche sponsorship deal.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 14 @ 2:57 PM ET
more than Eichel just because and less than McDavid.

86Million / 10 years - and then of course he'll get about 5 million/annual in various marketing income..

- BorjeFan4Ever

A.) You can't sign a 10 year contract
B.) 86/10 would be less than Eichel
C.) You have no way of proving that marketing plow and that is not an argument for the team for him to take any less

Unless you meant over 8 years, in which case all I got is C
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:58 PM ET
A.) You can't sign a 10 year contract
B.) 86/10 would be less than Eichel
C.) You have no way of proving that and that is not an argument for the team for him to take any less

- RickJames77



We can prove it, he has a deal with Porsche already in place.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 14 @ 2:59 PM ET
We can prove it, he has a deal with Porsche already in place.
- PatC80

Regardless, it has nothing to do with him and his play for the Leafs. The team cannot use that as leverage, nor should they. It is his own business, not theirs. He should be paid what he deserves based on his play and not less because of any advertising deals he has with organizations outside of the Leafs.

If he wants to take less then good on him, but it's solely his decision.
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 14 @ 3:00 PM ET
Train another monkey to tip shots and bang in rebounds.

He'd be ok for the 1st couple years of a new contract....after that.

- Garnie


If it's so easy then why isn't Hyman doing it?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:00 PM ET
A.) You can't sign a 10 year contract
B.) 86/10 would be less than Eichel
C.) You have no way of proving that marketing plow and that is not an argument for the team for him to take any less

Unless you meant over 8 years, in which case all I got is C

- RickJames77


Agreed, 100%.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 14 @ 3:01 PM ET
Regardless, it has nothing to do with him and his play for the Leafs. The team cannot use that as leverage, nor should they. It is his own business, not theirs. He should be paid what he deserves based on his play and not less because of any advertising deals he has with organizations outside of the Leafs.

If he wants to take less then good on him, but it's solely his decision.

- RickJames77


Apparently what I heard on the radio is a lot of players wanted to play in towns like Toronto for the express purpose of getting more media attention. They were hoping to parlay it into more outside business. Therefore I believe the team can absolutely use it as leverage.

"Go play for the Blue Jackets and see if Porsche still wants you".
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 14 @ 3:02 PM ET
Agreed, 100%.
- Scabeh

It'd be like if I had a small side business and my main employer decided to say well, we know you make x outside of the office so we're going to low ball you on your salary.

Ok, bye.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Mar 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
Apparently what I heard on the radio is a lot of players wanted to play in towns like Toronto for the express purpose of getting more media attention. They were hoping to parlay it into more outside business. Therefore I believe the team can absolutely use it as leverage.

"Go play for the Blue Jackets and see if Porsche still wants you".

- Aaron_85

I don't disagree with that, but then what would then be the point of doing that if you were in turn going to take a haircut on your main salary, presumably for 8 years?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:03 PM ET
It'd be like if I had a small side business and my main employer decided to say well, we know you make x outside of the office so we're going to low ball you on your salary.

Ok, bye.

- RickJames77


Matthews will get nothing short of 10m+ per year for the next 8 years.

I simply do not see any other alternatives
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Mar 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
I would keep Bozak but no more that a couple of years at 3 or 4 mill. If it's more then see you later. Uncle Leo can stay for another year at 2 mill. If it's more then out the door as well. JVR will be too expensive.
- Matthews_Auston

Thanks Buston!!!!

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:04 PM ET
Apparently what I heard on the radio is a lot of players wanted to play in towns like Toronto for the express purpose of getting more media attention. They were hoping to parlay it into more outside business. Therefore I believe the team can absolutely use it as leverage.

"Go play for the Blue Jackets and see if Porsche still wants you".

- Aaron_85


I'm sure they would, kid would be a star anywhere.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 14 @ 3:05 PM ET
It'd be like if I had a small side business and my main employer decided to say well, we know you make x outside of the office so we're going to low ball you on your salary.

Ok, bye.

- RickJames77


This 100% happens in real life. It's tax planning.

Essentially the Leafs can "introduce" Matthews to a few big companies and they sign larger deals with him than they normally would to offset his salary as a Leafs. By passing the union and escrow. (That's a big deal).

I recently helped set up a corporation for this to retain a high level manager. Set her up in her corporation so now she gets some more tax write offs and etc.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 14 @ 3:06 PM ET
Apparently what I heard on the radio is a lot of players wanted to play in towns like Toronto for the express purpose of getting more media attention. They were hoping to parlay it into more outside business. Therefore I believe the team can absolutely use it as leverage.

"Go play for the Blue Jackets and see if Porsche still wants you".

- Aaron_85


If you play in Columbus you could probably have a new type of public restroom dispensed paper named after you though
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