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daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 14 @ 10:10 PM ET
I'm not buying James van riemsdyk's cunning goal scoring act for a second. HARRD pass if he asks for anything more than 2 million on a 2 year deal.
- TheMussel

$2.1M is a no?
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:12 PM ET
would you prefer the opposite... play well and lose?

seriously, we should revisit the comments made earlier today... get rid of JvR... cause he's lazy, and only scores garbage goals..

discuss.

- BorjeFan4Ever


I'd love to keep him, but he may be a luxury the Laffers can't afford.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:14 PM ET
$2.1M is a no?
- daeth


If he wants any more than 2 he can go get an endorsement from the OCS or something
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 14 @ 10:16 PM ET
someone is going to give JVR 6x6 or something silly

he gone
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Mar 14 @ 10:17 PM ET
If he wants any more than 2 he can go get an endorsement from the OCS or something
- TheMussel


Tim Hortons seems to be handing out money to anyone these days. They even had that goon Marchand do a commercial. Surely JVR can work something out with them. Maybe name a doughnut after him.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Mar 14 @ 10:18 PM ET
someone is going to give JVR 6x6 or something silly

he gone

- daeth


Leafs? Honestly 6 x 6 is probably fair for what he brings. He'll probably get more than that in FA.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:19 PM ET
I'd love to keep him, but he may be a luxury the Laffers can't afford.
- UsernameUnknown

1967. Lawlz.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
Leafs? Honestly 6 x 6 is probably fair for what he brings. He'll probably get more than that in FA.
- Thecakeisalie

term is too long for a player like that
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:20 PM ET
someone is going to give JVR 6x6 or something silly

he gone

- daeth



For sure ...Could get $7+ ..Never underestimate a GM on July 1.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
1967. Lawlz.
- BetterCallSaul


Never going to win a cup with Losers like Fill Kesel on the team.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
now
Leafs coach Mike Babcock with no real update yet on Andersen other than reiterating it's upper body. Said maybe it's not serious since he played after he first got hurt (in collision with Radulov) but Babcock says he really doesn't know yet.
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:22 PM ET
term is too long for a player like that
- daeth


a good one..?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:23 PM ET
For sure ...Could get $7+ ..Never underestimate a GM on July 1.
- Fruitcakenipple


I think it's a 5 way battle between Calgary, Edmonton, the couv, the isles and the yotes.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
Guys...Bozies been real gud for the past month and a half...real gud.

Great game tonight for him.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
a good one..?
- UsernameUnknown

one that scores but is a defensive liability and will be 34 in 6 years
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:24 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
now
Leafs coach Mike Babcock with no real update yet on Andersen other than reiterating it's upper body. Said maybe it's not serious since he played after he first got hurt (in collision with Radulov) but Babcock says he really doesn't know yet.

- Fruitcakenipple


I'm not worried if he skated over to the bench during a commercial break and asked to be taken out
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Mar 14 @ 10:25 PM ET
id do 6x8 for JvR for a very simple reason.

6 million in 2019 is not 6 million in 2027, percentage wise (of the salary cap)

either the cap gets raised or a lockout occurs and salaries go down.

either way, you'd be ending up with paying JvR the equivalent of what in 2018 would be $3.5-4.5mil or thereabouts, in his last 2-3 years. (year 2025+)

looking at percentages, 6 mil over a long term is actually not a bad deal for him, given the way salaries will be devalued.

much like Crosby's original 8.5 mil contract would be looked at now, in 2018 (the equivalent would be McDavid's 12.5 mil)
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:26 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun @PierreVLeBrun
now
Leafs coach Mike Babcock with no real update yet on Andersen other than reiterating it's upper body. Said maybe it's not serious since he played after he first got hurt (in collision with Radulov) but Babcock says he really doesn't know yet.

- Fruitcakenipple

SmackMyHeiny is in tomorrow regardless.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:26 PM ET
Yes
- Corn_Logg

I know he'd have to agree to a trade, but I don't see another way that they can keep JVR
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Mar 14 @ 10:27 PM ET
term is too long for a player like that
- daeth

Better then Ladd Eriksson Lucic Okoposo and those guys got deals like that a couple years ago, 6x6 is the going rate and not a bad deal for JVR. Might not work with the leafs but that’d be a nice deal for other teams.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:29 PM ET
term is too long for a player like that
- daeth

Why?
UsernameUnknown
Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:29 PM ET
one that scores but is a defensive liability and will be 34 in 6 years
- daeth


And as mentioned 6 mil today and 6 mil in six years will be a big difference on the cap.
If JVR took 6x6, you should like it. I wouldn't do much more than that though, because as you said, he's only good for offense. But he's fairly consistent, and would be worth it, even at 34. That's not exactly retirement age.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:32 PM ET
I think it's a 5 way battle between Calgary, Edmonton, the couv, the isles and the yotes.
- TheMussel

Islanders maybe.. they'll have a lot of cap space once Tavares leaves.
Corn_Logg
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Jorts and Jergens, ON
Joined: 02.10.2014

Mar 14 @ 10:33 PM ET
Better then Ladd Eriksson Lucic Okoposo and those guys got deals like that a couple years ago, 6x6 is the going rate and not a bad deal for JVR. Might not work with the leafs but that’d be a nice deal for other teams.
- ClarksonDavid

Yup. 30 goals gets you 6 at least. He's money on the PP.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:34 PM ET
And as mentioned 6 mil today and 6 mil in six years will be a big difference on the cap.
If JVR took 6x6, you should like it. I wouldn't do much more than that though, because as you said, he's only good for offense. But he's fairly consistent, and would be worth it, even at 34. That's not exactly retirement age.

- UsernameUnknown

I certainly would have no issue with that at all - probably isn't enough, he rarely gets hurt, so he could be effective the entire term...easily.
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