I think so.

I really do believe Simmonds gets moved at the draft. Just have the feeling someone will offer something too good to pass up.
- J35Bacher

I'm loving things right now with two of my favorites sports teams. Two great guys who know how to work a roster. Hextall and Elway. Elway is getting Case Keenum to fill the hole they've had at QB and can then develop the next one.

I'm not a big fan of creating dead cap space over 2 years if you can afford to just keep the player for one.
- nastyflyergirl

Theyll have enough cap space that it won't matter, but I don't mind getting him off the books sooner.

I would love a deal at the draft that brings in an overpaid player. I just want him to actually be good. The pipe dream is an RFA that is due for a raise that can fit on the 3rd line C or wing.

Sorry but the guy behind the net is no where near as dangerous as the man in front of it, unless he's Wayne Gretzky!
- aantny88

Yep, a guy with the puck who could've walked right out to the net unchecked if MacDonald wasn't there isn't the most dangerous. Got it. If MacDonald had left him and went to Carpenter, and Eakins came out in front and scored, you would then be stating the opposite.

Sushko signed ELC...

Theyll have enough cap space that it won't matter, but I don't mind getting him off the books sooner.

I would love a deal at the draft that brings in an overpaid player. I just want him to actually be good. The pipe dream is an RFA that is due for a raise that can fit on the 3rd line C or wing.
- YuenglingJagr

I would just send him to the phantoms. No need for a buyout. They can live with him in Philadelphia or Lehigh. He could be on the Matt Read plan next year.

Theyll have enough cap space that it won't matter, but I don't mind getting him off the books sooner.

I would love a deal at the draft that brings in an overpaid player. I just want him to actually be good. The pipe dream is an RFA that is due for a raise that can fit on the 3rd line C or wing.
- YuenglingJagr

Simmonds for Hertl..do you make the deal?

Sushko signed ELC...
- dragonoffrost

Waiting for Strome

Simmonds for Hertl..do you make the deal?
- Baxter27

My opinion..just me. But probably not. I think for Simmonds I can get something like youngish roster player and first rounder. At the draft everyone can be involved in the bidding compared to the deadline when you have buyers and sellers.

driving back from appt, seen guy at light, so i have him 5, I look up and he had a flyers shirt on..

good omen or bad?

not something you see on south florida

Wait, wait, wait....

I left a comment last night about how some might be undervaluing what Simmonds has to offer and the responses were very interesting. All of which I disagree.

The first, basically Simmonds won't be resigned because that's the old way. What have we handed G and Jake? I think the Flyers are very much considering the possibility of bringing back Simmonds or should.

The second, I called out that Couturier, Patrick and Konecny are gonna have to step up and the responder doesn't think I'll expect growth. I've been hoping for offensive growth from Coots for years and i don't expect major steps from Patrick next season that impacts the team the same way Simmonds already does.

The third comment believes Couturier is the reason why Giroux is a better player this year? While this might be possible, I think Giroux is the straw that stirs the drink every time he's on the ice. G makes everyone better.

Waiting for Strome
- mayorofangrytown

I feel like he is going to make it. I know he has skating issues but for some reason I think he'll carve out a 3rd/4th line role. He seems to just score goals and knows how to play a solid hockey game.

My opinion..just me. But probably not. I think for Simmonds I can get something like youngish roster player and first rounder. At the draft everyone can be involved in the bidding compared to the deadline when you have buyers and sellers.
- J35Bacher

I agree you can probably get more value in terms of prospects and picks. However this would be a deal to make if Hextall is valuing roster fit and potential instead. There is risk considering how injury prone Hertl has been.

I can already see it now. Simmonds wasn't that good. Just like JvR. Just like Carter. Just like Schenn. Our talent is the best of the best...until it's time to move them. Raffl and Weal are so awesome!!

I feel like he is going to make it. I know he has skating issues but for some reason I think he'll carve out a 3rd/4th line role. He seems to just score goals and knows how to play a solid hockey game.
- J35Bacher

I agree. I feel like he's just too skilled in every other aspect of the game to not be signed and given a chance to work on his skating. They still have until June 2019 to make that decision but I think he'll be fine.

Wait, wait, wait....

I left a comment last night about how some might be undervaluing what Simmonds has to offer and the responses were very interesting. All of which I disagree.

The first, basically Simmonds won't be resigned because that's the old way. What have we handed G and Jake? I think the Flyers are very much considering the possibility of bringing back Simmonds or should.

The second, I called out that Couturier, Patrick and Konecny are gonna have to step up and the responder doesn't think I'll expect growth. I've been hoping for offensive growth from Coots for years and i don't expect major steps from Patrick next season that impacts the team the same way Simmonds already does.

The third comment believes Couturier is the reason why Giroux is a better player this year? While this might be possible, I think Giroux is the straw that stirs the drink every time he's on the ice. G makes everyone better.
- SuperSchennBros

I call you out on it again. Patrick and Konecny should be able to make up what Simmonds has done this year with growth. Coots has replaced Schenn alone this season. Him along with G and Jake having normal years is why this team is in the hunt for the playoffs. Don't think if Hextall gets an offer like he got for Brayden he isn't doubling down on the move.

Yep, a guy with the puck who could've walked right out to the net unchecked if MacDonald wasn't there isn't the most dangerous. Got it. If MacDonald had left him and went to Carpenter, and Eakins came out in front and scored, you would then be stating the opposite.
- MJL

AMAC could have been a 1/2 step off but that was created by the guy being free behind the net, AMAC had a split second to decide, that is all it takes in the NHL.

it is a team coverage but this whole thing goes back to FLIP, clear the puck with 2 minutes left, then at least take someone down low or on the wall.

I agree you can probably get more value in terms of prospects and picks. However this would be a deal to make if Hextall is valuing roster fit and potential instead. There is risk considering how injury prone Hertl has been.
- Baxter27

I was wondering about a guy like Bennett in Calgary or Anthansiou in Detroit. Both seem like guys that might be on their ways out. Heard rumors about both potentially being available at times.

Simmonds for Hertl..do you make the deal?
- Baxter27

Can't say I wouldn't, but I would hope they could find something better.

I also don't think Simmonds is done or anything. Just has had an unimpressive year. It happens. That could hurt his return, but also could pay off for the Flyers if they don't sell low

I can already see it now. Simmonds wasn't that good. Just like JvR. Just like Carter. Just like Schenn. Our talent is the best of the best...until it's time to move them. Raffl and Weal are so awesome!!
- SuperSchennBros

Dude just stop. Nobody is saying Simmonds isn't that good. It's the fact that he'll be 30 and looking for a big deal, which is something I'd be hesitant to give to an aging power forward for what he's most likely going to be asking for. So it's not a bad idea to see what you can get for him if he's looking for a contract out of the price/term range the flyers are looking for.

I can already see it now. Simmonds wasn't that good. Just like JvR. Just like Carter. Just like Schenn. Our talent is the best of the best...until it's time to move them. Raffl and Weal are so awesome!!
- SuperSchennBros

The 3 guys you listed were traded in their early to mid 20s. Simmonds is 30 this year. He's likely reached his prime. He's been a fantastic Flyers but smart asset management would lead Hextall to explore his options.

It's usually my last resort to blame the goalie but the first goal was a completely unorthodox stick position that went terribly wrong.

The second goal, it's his job to control that rebound. It was an unscreened shot if I remember correctly. He needs to absorb it or deflect it to a better area. Obviously I'd like better coverage on the shooter but it was a containable shot.
- Baxter27

The first goal went off his stick, so that is on him. However, that second power play goal against was a deflection in close and the rebound came out to a guy wide open. I do not put that on Mrazek at all.

The Flyers lost last night because they could not bury their chances when they had them (see Lindblom at point blank range) and failed clears that cost them with 2:40 left in the game.

Frustrating yes, but I do not put any of that on Mrasek rebound control or not.

I can already see it now. Simmonds wasn't that good. Just like JvR. Just like Carter. Just like Schenn. Our talent is the best of the best...until it's time to move them. Raffl and Weal are so awesome!!
- SuperSchennBros[/quote]


No one said he isn't good. But he will be up for another deal soon and he is going to be 30. Also the Flyers have a pipeline of prospects coming. Will one of them be Simmonds. i don't know. But i also can't expect Simmonds to keep producing at the same pace as he ages. Simmonds is probably looking at a new deal in the 6yrs at 6per range. That's a lot knowing i am going to be signing Provorov to a big long term deal. Also guys like Konecny will soon need deals.

I call you out on it again. Patrick and Konecny should be able to make up what Simmonds has done this year with growth. Coots has replaced Schenn alone this season. Him along with G and Jake having normal years is why this team is in the hunt for the playoffs. Don't think if Hextall gets an offer like he got for Brayden he isn't doubling down on the move.
- dragonoffrost

The question I have for you is if Couturier has replaced Schenn's output, who has replaced Couturier's. I've never understood this logic. No matter how you spin it, the Flyers lost a 20 goal, 50 point player out of the lineup that if he wasn't traded, would be in the lineup still in addition to any new players that were added. Do we think playing Schenn at wing would produce more in a top 9 role that Weal or Raffl has?

The 3 guys you listed were traded in their early to mid 20s. Simmonds is 30 this year. He's likely reached his prime. He's been a fantastic Flyers but smart asset management would lead Hextall to explore his options.
- Baxter27

I mean look at deals that Backes and Ladd signed. Those are probably just starting points for a Simmonds deal.

Backes 5 years at 6 per.

Ladd 7 years at 5.5 per.

Not sure if i like any of those terms for Simmonds.

AMAC could have been a 1/2 step off but that was created by the guy being free behind the net, AMAC had a split second to decide, that is all it takes in the NHL.

it is a team coverage but this whole thing goes back to FLIP, clear the puck with 2 minutes left, then at least take someone down low or on the wall.
- wcorvette

I agree with Bill Meltzer, plenty of blame to go around. MacDonald should be down the list.