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Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 11 @ 9:27 PM ET
NAK would be a perfect bottom 9 winger for this team RH shot with good speed who has been excellent 5 on 5. I think Weal is in trouble next season. If he isn't scoring, he isn't good enough defensively to play on the 3rd line.
- ravishingone


NAK seems a lot like another Taylor Leier to me. I don’t see enough nhl qualities in him
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 11 @ 9:29 PM ET
They can’t trust the health of the D, mostly oduya. Don’t think we’ll sanheim go anywhere, unless he is just that bad
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 11 @ 9:30 PM ET
The theme seems to be which Phantoms players can be called up for the stretch run etc etc.

I just dont see Hexy gutting the Phantoms while they have their own DEEP playoff run to make this season. And it has the potential to be a MUCH deeper run than the Flyers will make.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanheim get sent back once Hagg is healthy.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 11 @ 9:37 PM ET
The theme seems to be which Phantoms players can be called up for the stretch run etc etc.

I just dont see Hexy gutting the Phantoms while they have their own DEEP playoff run to make this season. And it has the potential to be a MUCH deeper run than the Flyers will make.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanheim get sent back once Hagg is healthy.

- MBFlyerfan


It wouldn't surprise me at all. Sanheim still played only 12 minutes while manning etc got 20+. However he has 2 weeks to prove that he can benefit this team and he has to do it at Even strength and spot PK duties. If he proves it and elevates his game to being able to play 15+ minutes he will stay imo.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 11 @ 9:39 PM ET
It wouldn't surprise me at all. Sanheim still played only 12 minutes while manning etc got 20+. However he has 2 weeks to prove that he can benefit this team and he has to do it at Even strength and spot PK duties. If he proves it and elevates his game to being able to play 15+ minutes he will stay imo.
- Tfaehner



If it were up to me I would hope Sanheim stays and replaces Manning.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 11 @ 9:41 PM ET
If it were up to me I would hope Sanheim stays and replaces Manning.
- MBFlyerfan


I don't like sanheim with gudas. I think if he stays up he needs to play with amac and pair hagg with gudas. But that is what I would like to see personally.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 11 @ 9:42 PM ET
I don't like sanheim with gudas. I think if he stays up he needs to play with amac and pair hagg with gudas. But that is what I would like to see personally.
- Tfaehner



Oh I didn't say he would play with Gudas, I said he would replace Manning. And then you shuffle the pairs as needed.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 9:43 PM ET
NAK seems a lot like another Taylor Leier to me. I don’t see enough nhl qualities in him
- Just5

It all comes down to making the jump at the next level. I think NAK could be the next Raffl. Leier hasn't done much at the NHL level, but he is definitely good enough to be in the NHL
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 9:44 PM ET
I don't like sanheim with gudas. I think if he stays up he needs to play with amac and pair hagg with gudas. But that is what I would like to see personally.
- Tfaehner



Deployment and role plays an issue. Like you alluded to earlier, Hakstol sheltered Sanheim and elevated the Gudas/Manning pairing. They had a good game but can we count on that pairing to play 20 minutes a night, game in and game out?

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 9:46 PM ET
The theme seems to be which Phantoms players can be called up for the stretch run etc etc.

I just dont see Hexy gutting the Phantoms while they have their own DEEP playoff run to make this season. And it has the potential to be a MUCH deeper run than the Flyers will make.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanheim get sent back once Hagg is healthy.

- MBFlyerfan

Sanheim should be playing here because he deserves it. NAK is the only one I see getting a call up, if needed, but I think Weise/Read/Leier will replace anyone before that. I could see Martel if Konecny or Weal get hurt.

None of the other defensemen are going to come up right now. The Phantoms will also get players once college/junior season ends so they would conceivably have enough depth.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 9:46 PM ET
It all comes down to making the jump at the next level. I think NAK could be the next Raffl. Leier hasn't done much at the NHL level, but he is definitely good enough to be in the NHL
- YuenglingJagr


As a 13th forward maybe for Leier. He hasn't shown me he should be anything more in his time in the NHL.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 9:46 PM ET
Deployment and role plays an issue. Like you alluded to earlier, Hakstol sheltered Sanheim and elevated the Gudas/Manning pairing. They had a good game but can we count on that pairing to play 20 minutes a night, game in and game out?
- MJL

No, he can just play Sanheim
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 9:47 PM ET
No, he can just play Sanheim
- YuenglingJagr



Sure, he can just play Sanheim 25 minutes a night if he wants to.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 11 @ 9:49 PM ET
Deployment and role plays an issue. Like you alluded to earlier, Hakstol sheltered Sanheim and elevated the Gudas/Manning pairing. They had a good game but can we count on that pairing to play 20 minutes a night, game in and game out?
- MJL


Yup. Hagg better balances the lineup though. If we look at strictly even strength minutes manning/gudas had 3 minutes more than Sanheim. If Hagg were in the lineup he would be on the PK per usual and manning would only get spot duties so in theory there would be a much smaller difference in minutes from the 20 to 12 comparison from the jets game. Sanheim needs to continue to play well and gain trust in tight playoff like games and get up around that 15 minute mark to stay up. His play will dictate what happens over the next 2 weeks. Lindblom already has proven that.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Mar 11 @ 9:52 PM ET
As a 13th forward maybe for Leier. He hasn't shown me he should be anything more in his time in the NHL.
- MJL


I think he was saying that Leier has the skill to be in the NHL but he was unable to turn his skill into on ice results.

I like NAK more than I like Leier. But I'm also not expecting him to pot 20 a year from a bottom 6 role without PP time. He is also much younger and still has room to continue to grow.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 9:53 PM ET
Yup. Hagg better balances the lineup though. If we look at strictly even strength minutes manning/gudas had 3 minutes more than Sanheim. If Hagg were in the lineup he would be on the PK per usual and manning would only get spot duties so in theory there would be a much smaller difference in minutes from the 20 to 12 comparison from the jets game. Sanheim needs to continue to play well and gain trust in tight playoff like games and get up around that 15 minute mark to stay up. His play will dictate what happens over the next 2 weeks. Lindblom already has proven that.
- Tfaehner


I think if Sanheim can continue to play as well as he did against Winnipeg he can handle increased minutes. Right now I agree with you concerning Hagg. Ultimately though I see Hagg as a 3rd pair level defender and Sanheim as a high minute 2 way defenseman.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 9:54 PM ET
I think he was saying that Leier has the skill to be in the NHL but he was unable to turn his skill into on ice results.

I like NAK more than I like Leier. But I'm also not expecting him to pot 20 a year from a bottom 6 role without PP time. He is also much younger and still has room to continue to grow.

- Tfaehner


Other than some quickness and speed, I don't see much in Leier at the NHL level.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 9:55 PM ET
Sure, he can just play Sanheim 25 minutes a night if he wants to.
- MJL

Yeah he could. Sanheim didn't do anything do warrant a minutes reduction. He played great. Point is that Sanheim being around doesn't mean Hakstol has to play Manning and Gudas more
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 9:58 PM ET
I think he was saying that Leier has the skill to be in the NHL but he was unable to turn his skill into on ice results.

I like NAK more than I like Leier. But I'm also not expecting him to pot 20 a year from a bottom 6 role without PP time. He is also much younger and still has room to continue to grow.

- Tfaehner

Leier is a year removed from being an AHL all star, he has flashed a good shot, he is quick and can play a 4th line role. He was good at the beginning of the year. I am not going to shed any tears if he doesn't stick around, but he is clearly good enough for the NHL. Those kinds of guys stick around and bounce all over the league. Harry Z is one that comes to mind
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:01 PM ET
Yeah he could. Sanheim didn't do anything do warrant a minutes reduction. He played great. Point is that Sanheim being around doesn't mean Hakstol has to play Manning and Gudas more
- YuenglingJagr


No coach has to do anything. It wasn't a reduction. It was his first NHL game in months and he is a rookie. Sanheim is going to have to earn more minutes and the Flyers might be reluctant to overexpose him. It's about role and usage.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 11 @ 10:04 PM ET
Leier is a year removed from being an AHL all star, he has flashed a good shot, he is quick and can play a 4th line role. He was good at the beginning of the year. I am not going to shed any tears if he doesn't stick around, but he is clearly good enough for the NHL. Those kinds of guys stick around and bounce all over the league. Harry Z is one that comes to mind
- YuenglingJagr


Before this season, Harry Z played 3 NHL games the previous two seasons. There are far more players like him and Leier that remain career AHL players than regulars in the NHL. He's serviceable at best at this point unless he improves.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 11 @ 10:15 PM ET
No coach has to do anything. It wasn't a reduction. It was his first NHL game in months and he is a rookie. Sanheim is going to have to earn more minutes and the Flyers might be reluctant to overexpose him. It's about role and usage.
- MJL

fantastic
kej83
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: oc, NJ
Joined: 10.19.2010

Mar 11 @ 11:36 PM ET
The theme seems to be which Phantoms players can be called up for the stretch run etc etc.

I just dont see Hexy gutting the Phantoms while they have their own DEEP playoff run to make this season. And it has the potential to be a MUCH deeper run than the Flyers will make.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised to see Sanheim get sent back once Hagg is healthy.

- MBFlyerfan


the phantoms should be very stacked once juniors/college seasons end
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Mar 12 @ 12:22 AM ET
LOUD NOISES!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 12 @ 7:45 AM ET
fantastic
- YuenglingJagr



I think SanHeim knows he will earn it, I think he knew he had to fix some of his game and is pretty clear on what is expected. There is 1 more part, who makes the team better? All D make mistakes, look at Manning . If it is clear that Sanheim gives them a better chance to win, mistakes and all, he will play.
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