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picklerick
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 03.01.2018

Mar 9 @ 4:59 PM ET
The Canes at least got Saarela and 2 picks out of letting Eric Staal go. The Rangers got 25 lazy games out of Eric Staal that culminated in 6 points.
- tomburton99


What's Saarela's deal? He looks to have decent numbers in the AHL.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Mar 9 @ 5:01 PM ET
Dark Days indeed
- TPC


"Dark days indeed", TPC, with even darker ones ahead, and more especially so during a rebuild under the lasting tenure of this bench coaching staff, which should have been simultaneously replaced at the latest, when their "selling" memo was issued in early February. That's when some new direction could have had some time to have a say in their deadline plans. They must replace this staff once their regular season ends, in order to have at least 2 months time to assess their off season plans, including Draft and free agency wise. If not, this rebuild will take much longer than most feel it will require under its current and otherwise lost direction.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
What's Saarela's deal? He looks to have decent numbers in the AHL.
- picklerick

The Canes don't really have a spot for him in their top 9. He's only 21, so he's got time.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:11 PM ET
The Canes at least got Saarela and 2 picks out of letting Eric Staal go. The Rangers got 25 lazy games out of Eric Staal that culminated in 6 points.
- tomburton99


We turned those picks into Teravainen!
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
What's Saarela's deal? He looks to have decent numbers in the AHL.
- picklerick


Decent numbers but we've got 5 forwards with better ones on that team alone. He's been good, and he can play at the NHL level soon, but there are an awful lot of guys ahead of him right now.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 9 @ 5:19 PM ET
The Canes at least got Saarela and 2 picks out of letting Eric Staal go. The Rangers got 25 lazy games out of Eric Staal that culminated in 6 points.
- tomburton99


sounds like what the Bruins are going to get out of Rick Nash
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
We turned those picks into Teravainen!
- BINGO!

And then fired your GM
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:24 PM ET
sounds like what the Bruins are going to get out of Rick Nash
- jimbo83

Eric Staal never tried this hard for the Rangers.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
And then fired your GM
- rangerdanger94

He didn't get fired. He's now president of Hcokey Operations.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Mar 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
He didn't get fired. He's now president of Hcokey Operations.
- tomburton99

Oh well this is embarrassing
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 9 @ 5:27 PM ET
Eric Staal never tried this hard for the Rangers.

- tomburton99


this is true

I should clarify

Rick Nash will be more productive for the Bruins than Eric Staal was for the Rangers

but, they are still only going to get about 25 games out of him
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Mar 9 @ 5:28 PM ET
that's banworthy
- 21peter


"That's ban worthy" for making a correct fact here???
The Rangers pondered acquiring Eric Staal for awhile, and in the end felt that he was their missing piece needed at the 2016 deadline, in acquiring him for a then considered, top prospect in Saarella, plus 2nd Round picks in the 2016 and 2017 Drafts.
But Eric was not utilized correctly by A.V., who also played him out of position. Am I upset that the Rangers didn't re-sign the then pending UFA in Staal? No. He was not affordable at that time under their cap then. What I am upset about is how when given his chance to play like the Eric Staal of his Carolina days, Eric has excelled like then and more, which is another case of one that has shown by example, his ways of proving A.V. again being wrong. Maybe that lack of scoring in that prior season's ECF series loss to Tampa had been due also to some degree to A.V. than one may have ever suspected. I don't see Ben Bishop playing at a "King Ben" level in goal ever since.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:29 PM ET
And then fired your GM
- rangerdanger94


Yeah I'm not sure about that one, but from all accounts it appears it's just a clash of styles.

Dundon wants a collaborator who's going to run the team kind of by committee and be more focused on the decision making process.

Francis was kept on board because Dundon knows Francis knows a hell of a lot more about hockey than he does, but he wants a different type of management structure and Francis wasn't the right fit.

Ron Francis, Tom Dundon and Don Waddell will all be involved in choosing the new GM.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 9 @ 5:36 PM ET
I just did a tankathon mock draft and got Dahlin on the first try

HOLLA
TommyGTrain
New York Rangers
Location: Part of NJ where its Taylor Ham not pork roll
Joined: 05.19.2017

Mar 9 @ 5:40 PM ET
Bruins forward Brad Marchand was fined by the NHL today $2k for diving in a game on March 1st. This POS was warned by league back in November for diving, hence an additional fine.
He has now been fined approx. $375k this season ALONE and $875k since 2011. When is the league going to get rid of these clowns?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:41 PM ET
this is true

I should clarify

Rick Nash will be more productive for the Bruins than Eric Staal was for the Rangers

but, they are still only going to get about 25 games out of him

- jimbo83

That will most likely be true. I loathe Eric Staal.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Mar 9 @ 5:42 PM ET
Bruins forward Brad Marchand was fined by the NHL today $2k for diving in a game on March 1st. This POS was warned by league back in November for diving, hence an additional fine.
He has now been fined approx. $375k this season ALONE and $875k since 2011. When is the league going to get rid of these clowns?

- TommyGTrain


funny that the Bruins and their fans were always the biggest bltches about Sean Avery
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:44 PM ET
funny that the Bruins and their fans were always the biggest bltches about Sean Avery
- jimbo83

Every non Ranger fan female doged about Sean Avery. The worst on ice thing he did was sucker punch Semyon Varlamov.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Mar 9 @ 5:46 PM ET
Tolvanen doing his best Forsberg impression. This guy could be a top10 winger down the road.

https://twitter.com/aj_ra...status/972197704112713729

- 21peter

Chytil better pan out to be a 1st line Center
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 5:53 PM ET
Chytil better pan out to be a 1st line Center
- KreiderBomb

That's not fair Vin. That's a tough ask of kid who has yet to turn 19.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Mar 9 @ 5:55 PM ET
The Canes at least got Saarela and 2 picks out of letting Eric Staal go. The Rangers got 25 lazy games out of Eric Staal that culminated in 6 points.
- tomburton99

McDavid would be lost here also under a system with no proper direction. I see how Edmonton will be in the Cup finals this season under a similar system with a coach even greater lost than A.V. has been this season.
You don't go from those NHL experts, Stanley Cup Finalist prediction for the Oilers, to a team equal to our downfall, when having a McDavid and Draisaitl in key up front, or just due to some unsuspected shortage of player talent only.
I felt all along that Eric Staal was lost under A.V.'s ways he was utilized during that post deadline and postseason, greatly dictating as to his lack of offensive production.
A high school hockey team wouldn't have been out shot 17-0 a little greater than halfway into the 1st period if playing against Tampa last night. It required "CAPTAIN" HANK to go to the bench during a 1st Period tv timeout to shell out some words to his mates, prior to them out shooting Tampa 6 to 4 for the balance of the period, (for a 21 - 6 S.O.G. deficit in that 1st). What was A.V. telling them to wait for up to that point?
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:07 PM ET
McDavid would be lost here also under a system with no proper direction. I see how Edmonton will be in the Cup finals this season under a similar system with a coach even greater lost than A.V. has been this season.
You don't go from those NHL experts, Stanley Cup Finalist prediction for the Oilers, to a team equal to our downfall, when having a McDavid and Draisaitl in key up front, or just due to some unsuspected shortage of player talent only.
I felt all along that Eric Staal was lost under A.V.'s ways he was utilized during that post deadline and postseason, greatly dictating as to his lack of offensive production.
A high school hockey team wouldn't have been out shot 17-0 a little greater than halfway into the 1st period if playing against Tampa last night. It required "CAPTAIN" HANK to go to the bench during a 1st Period tv timeout to shell out some words to his mates, prior to them out shooting Tampa 6 to 4 for the balance of the period, (for a 21 - 6 S.O.G. deficit in that 1st). What was A.V. telling them to wait for up to that point?

- RangerSaver

Mcdavid has nothing to do with this. Stay on topic.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Mar 9 @ 6:11 PM ET
Mcdavid has nothing to do with this. Stay on topic.
- tomburton99

I'm the one who brought up the topic of Eric Staal today, "Professor", and feel that Staal was incorrectly used by A.V. while here that season, leading to his lack of offensive production they had expected. But that is nothing new under this coaching staff.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Mar 9 @ 6:12 PM ET
That's not fair Vin. That's a tough ask of kid who has yet to turn 19.
- tomburton99

I agree. But it’s completely fair to judge an 18 year old picked 7th overall.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 9 @ 6:14 PM ET
I'm the one who brought up the topic of Eric Staal today, "Professor", and feel that Staal was incorrectly used by A.V. while here that season, leading to his lack of offensive production they had expected. But that is nothing new under this coaching staff.
- RangerSaver

That's not true, like at all. Eric Staal slotted in behind Stepan and Brassard, allowing him easier match ups. Not only did he get easier match ups, AV moved Hayes from the center position to the wing in order to allow Eric Staal to play Center. Eric Staal was a dog here, plain and simple. He didn't care and didn't work. He can go piss into the wind.
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