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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 9:57 AM ET
There's literally no goalie.

You also realize that players who play 18+ minutes have a higher probability of being on the ice for more goals against than a player who plays 7 minutes a night, right?

When you play in more situations you will be on the ice for more goals. Simple probability.

Also, let's say Sid takes a shift with Rowney, Kuhnhackl, Hunwick and whatever other dman is there in a defensive zone draw. You're gonna tell me if Sid is on the ice with those bums and let's up a goal it shows a an issue with Sid defensively?

Or if Malkin is on the ice when any other linemate turns the puck over leading to a breakaway goal, that should somehow reflect on Malkin?

Yeah, no thanks. I have my issues with advanced stats, but I'll talk most of them over +/-

- Rinosaur

Has all the flaws of Corsi with a much smaller sample size that hampers the probability of equalization. You’re better off just not looking at any stats besides raw production than looking at +/-
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 8 @ 10:02 AM ET
Has all the flaws of Corsi with a much smaller sample size that hampers the probability of equalization. You’re better off just not looking at any stats besides raw production than looking at +/-
- Victoro311


Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:04 AM ET
Did anybody hear of the Pens doing a paper move on DeSmith like they did with ZAR? It would make sense since he'd probably be the playoff goalie for WBS but I never heard it though ZAR came out a day later. That would take us down to one non-emergency recall.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:20 AM ET
Remember that conversation yesterday about how teams should put their best shutdown guys against Malkin instead of Sid? Well, Flyers tried it, it didn't work.
- Tojo.

I saw that. They always put Couturier against Malkin though.
It's nice to see. I think it helps his wingers more than him but still. It'd be interesting to see where Sid and Geno's point totals would be if it was always Sid facing the 2C and 2nd pair.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:37 AM ET
I saw that. They always put Couturier against Malkin though.
It's nice to see. I think it helps his wingers more than him but still. It'd be interesting to see where Sid and Geno's point totals would be if it was always Sid facing the 2C and 2nd pair.

- Thorny87

It would be. It's extremely rare for a player of Malkin's caliber to draw the 2nd match-ups like he has his whole career.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 8 @ 10:40 AM ET
I saw that. They always put Couturier against Malkin though.
It's nice to see. I think it helps his wingers more than him but still. It'd be interesting to see where Sid and Geno's point totals would be if it was always Sid facing the 2C and 2nd pair.

- Thorny87

Over the course of a season QoC doesn't really vary much so any difference would probably be negligible.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
I saw that. They always put Couturier against Malkin though.
It's nice to see. I think it helps his wingers more than him but still. It'd be interesting to see where Sid and Geno's point totals would be if it was always Sid facing the 2C and 2nd pair.

- Thorny87


I dont know that theres really that big of drop off from 2nd line/2 pairings on a lot of teams...and its not like its ALWAYS the 1st line and 1st pairing playing Crosby, especially when he's at home...
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
Over the course of a season QoC doesn't really vary much so any difference would probably be negligible.
- Feds91Stammer

Not sure I understand. Do you mean vary on a line to line basis?
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
I dont know that theres really that big of drop off from 2nd line/2 pairings on a lot of teams...and its not like its ALWAYS the 1st line and 1st pairing playing Crosby, especially when he's at home...
- MattStrat

Always is pretty much an impossibility but I get what you're saying. He still does draw 1st line and 1st pairing more than Geno. I think it's Sully's choice as much as it is the oppositions.

It's just funny I brought it up and we saw the outcome last night.

Is Filppula's line the 3rd or 2nd on Philly?

From their blog

"Crosby's line ate absolutely ate alive the trio of the Valtteri Filppula, Jordan Weal and the returning Wayne Simmonds."
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Mar 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Always is pretty much an impossibility but I get what you're saying. He still does draw 1st line and 1st pairing more than Geno. I think it's Sully's choice as much as it is the oppositions.

It's just funny I brought it up and we saw the outcome last night.

Is Filppula's line the 3rd or 2nd on Philly?

From their blog

"Crosby's line ate absolutely ate alive the trio of the Valtteri Filppula, Jordan Weal and the returning Wayne Simmonds."

- Thorny87



Haha I was hoping Simmonds would have rust after long layoff....he did. He can make a big difference on the ice any given night. Would absolutely love him as a Pen.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
This will probably be one heck of a first round matchup.
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