of course they were worse he played the same team 6 times not 29 different teams, what do you thinks gonna happen when you play the top team in the league.
- bobbyisno1

And he's going to face the Bruins or the Lightning between 4 and 7 times. What's the difference?

I double counted one example but the point still stands strong. The facts demonstrate that goalies facing 2,000+ shots in the past 10 years (which speaks to your idea that the modern goalie is immune to facing too many shots) have problems making and succeeding in the playoffs.

And specifically, to Andersen, he faced 2,000 shots last year, barely made the playoffs, had worse playoff numbers and lost in the 1st round. This year, the division sucks so there's less competition for that 3rd spot but Andersen is still on pace to face too many shots and is relied upon too much to steal games and the playoff results will likely be the same.
- Unholy_Goalie

I wonder if his playoff numbers are reflective of him and his team facing the number 1 team in the league 6 times in a row.

of course they were worse he played the same team 6 times not 29 different teams, what do you thinks gonna happen when you play the top team in the league.
- bobbyisno1

Breaking Report; Good teams are good.

It may be out of the realm of possibility, but it's possible that a good goalie, continues to be a good goalie.
- PatC80

Well you can easily make a case where a goaltender receiving over 2000+ shots in a season probably could use some help from his defense and that's it's not the best way to build a winner.

Bur your original point was that goaltenders who receive 2000+ shots perform less than a more "rested" goaltender.... in which case the Luongo example doesn't apply,hell even team success shouldn't be a barometer as sometimes the best goaltender loses the series.
- Scabeh

They perform less because of the situation they're in which is a combination of poopty defense and having to do too much to compensate for it which eventually leads to not being able to do it anymore.

Will be remembered with the other great 4 goal scorers of his time:

Auston Matthews, Lars Eller and Jan Bulis.
- Scabeh

Matthews still with the Leafs?

I wonder if his playoff numbers are reflective of him and his team facing the number 1 team in the league 6 times in a row.
- Fakepartofme

As if playing Tampa Bay or Boston will be any different this time around.

I double counted one example but the point still stands strong. The facts demonstrate that goalies facing 2,000+ shots in the past 10 years (which speaks to your idea that the modern goalie is immune to facing too many shots) have problems making and succeeding in the playoffs.
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- Unholy_Goalie

Let me type this again slowly, so you can read it:

The numbers you presented demonstrate that it does NOT pose a problem for making the playoffs, and a very, very weak correlation with succeeding in the playoffs.

I double counted one example but the point still stands strong. The facts demonstrate that goalies facing 2,000+ shots in the past 10 years (which speaks to your idea that the modern goalie is immune to facing too many shots) have problems making and succeeding in the playoffs.

And specifically, to Andersen, he faced 2,000 shots last year, barely made the playoffs, had worse playoff numbers and lost in the 1st round. This year, the division sucks so there's less competition for that 3rd spot but Andersen is still on pace to face too many shots and is relied upon too much to steal games and the playoff results will likely be the same.
- Unholy_Goalie

Do you think his playoff numbers were worse, because maybe, Washington was a good team that won the President's trophy...Albeit, a little lucky for 70 games or so.

Matthews still with the Leafs?
- punchanello77

no

- Scabeh

According to Tanner, when does our luck run out again?

Matthews still with the Leafs?
- punchanello77

Despite most likely/I think/May very have/no one is sure but I assume he never game that puck to that young kid with the sign.

CAN YOU IMAGINE?

It may be out of the realm of possibility, but it's possible that a good goalie, continues to be a good goalie.
- PatC80

No.
Andersen may be one of the best goalies now.....but the future.....oh boy the future......where am I going with this again?

But.

Maybe, just maybe.....Andersen is at his best when faces a lot of shots?

Let me type this again slowly, so you can read it:

The numbers you presented demonstrate that it does NOT pose a problem for making the playoffs, and a very, very weak correlation with succeeding in the playoffs.
- Atomic Wedgie

Nope.

Matthews still with the Leafs?
- punchanello77

Here's the latest injury report, courtesy of MLSEL:

According to Tanner, when does our luck run out again?
- PatC80

You have it wrong.

Everything that happens after game 70 is only based on luck. Everything that happens before game 70 is based on how good your hockey team is.

We still have 8 games of seeing whether or not the Leafs are good, and then 12 games of seeing whether or not the Leafs are lucky.

Do you think his playoff numbers were worse, because maybe, Washington was a good team that won the President's trophy...Albeit, a little lucky for 70 games or so.
- PatC80

For the third time, he's about to face either Boston or Tampa Bay for 4-7 games. Is that going to be any different?

No.
Andersen may be one of the best goalies now.....but the future.....oh boy the future......where am I going with this again?

But.

Maybe, just maybe.....Andersen is at his best when faces a lot of shots?
- Fakepartofme

i think there might be something to that. babcock's system does allow a lot of shots, but mainly from certain areas?

idk, just thinking about how he sucks at the beginning of the year when we play run and gun.

where's senstroll with a heat map of shots when you need him...

And he's going to face the Bruins or the Lightning between 4 and 7 times. What's the difference?
- Unholy_Goalie

I was pointing out why he had worse playoff numbers, so you don't have to use that stat anymore cause there was a reason other than the 2000 shots.
It's a stupid arguemwnt, he likely would have the same numbers if he played 6 different teams.

As if playing Tampa Bay or Boston will be any different this time around.
- Unholy_Goalie

Could be.
Andersen is better this year.
Our D...although not great....is better this year. Hainsey could be a stud in the playoffs.
Our forward group is also better this year.

The team is better overall. No reason that cant correlate to better results. Like we're seeing in the standings now.

I understand the point you are trying to make...but you are not including the fact that the team could shut things down a little bit more in the playoffs or maybe Andersen simply plays better when facing more shots.

According to Tanner, when does our luck run out again?
- PatC80

- SofaKingBored

Bro, hows that Grand Cherokee of yours on gas?

Nope.
- Unholy_Goalie

How many teams win the Stanley Cup every year? Is it possible for a goalie who faces less than 2000 shots against to struggle in the playoffs?

For the third time, he's about to face either Boston or Tampa Bay for 4-7 games. Is that going to be any different?
- Unholy_Goalie

yes?