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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:11 PM ET
Yup , Columbus did it Devils are doing it
- VANTEL



Blips no better than our last PO
Needs more time to see where it leads.
Will Torts turn it around? Idk about that.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
i guess i just don't know who you're talking about and don't think it's as black/white as you make it out to be.

i'm fine with signing Guddy. WAs happy with the moves at the last tdl (aka embracing change).
Was glad we moved on from Wille and liked the Green signing (still do).
i think changes need to be made, but don't think we need/can do a complete tear down.

and i guess i just don't see the point in getting angry over it all.

- dbot

I don't think people are angry just frustrated watching this team and management spin their tires.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
i guess i just don't know who you're talking about and don't think it's as black/white as you make it out to be.

i'm fine with signing Guddy. WAs happy with the moves at the last tdl (aka embracing change).
Was glad we moved on from Wille and liked the Green signing (still do).
i think changes need to be made, but don't think we need/can do a complete tear down.

and i guess i just don't see the point in getting angry over it all.

- dbot


Its not anger. Im just not happy. Its out of my control, but as a paying customer, we can voice our opinion.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
Glass houses..we signed LE to an identical contract lol
- Nucker101

yes it was bad to, but I was talking about lucic not LE.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:12 PM ET
I don't think people are angry just frustrated watching this team and management spin their tires.
- A_SteamingLombardi


hey.
change is coming.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
hey.
change is coming.

- dbot

Yeah I heard that when they fired MG, but then they hired TL
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:14 PM ET
Its not anger. Im just not happy. Its out of my control, but as a paying customer, we can voice our opinion.
- Codes1087



sure. we agree on that one.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
Yeah I heard that when they fired MG, but then they hired TL
- A_SteamingLombardi


What's Markus Naslund doing ?

bring him in as an assistant.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:15 PM ET
I don't think people are angry just frustrated watching this team and management spin their tires.
- A_SteamingLombardi


We see burrows for dahlen. Burrows on waivers.
We see shinkaruk for granlund. Shinkaruk on waivers.
We see hansen for goldy and a 4th. Hansen healthy scratch half the season.
We know the successes of our trades.
We have all of these pending free agents and this management preaches the value of desire for picks and prospects but are reluctant (so far) to engage.
As a fan, i just want progress. I can wait 10 more years if i have to. Progression and an end goal is all we really want to see.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:17 PM ET
We see burrows for dahlen. Burrows on waivers.
We see shinkaruk for granlund. Shinkaruk on waivers.
We see hansen for goldy and a 4th. Hansen healthy scratch half the season.
We know the successes of our trades.
We have all of these pending free agents and this management preaches the value of desire for picks and prospects but are reluctant (so far) to engage.
As a fan, i just want progress. I can wait 10 more years if i have to. Progression and an end goal is all we really want to see.

- Codes1087



So you're mad at other GM's for not making trades with Canucks management (who clearly want to make moves).

Got it.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
It would be great if we started a rebuild one day.
- A_SteamingLombardi



I’ll bite...

Figure how to force NMC’s & NTC’s to waive & go to any team & I’ll agree 😂😂

Start with Kesler, Sedins & Edler there is 4 pieces to work with. Thx
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
So you're mad at other GM's for not making trades with Canucks management (who clearly want to make moves).

Got it.

- dbot


Show me the canucks are actively and clearly shopping to make moves.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:21 PM ET
I’ll bite...

Figure how to force NMC’s & NTC’s to waive & go to any team & I’ll agree 😂😂

Start with Kesler, Sedins & Edler there is 4 pieces to work with. Thx

- Nighthawk

???
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
We see burrows for dahlen. Burrows on waivers.
We see shinkaruk for granlund. Shinkaruk on waivers.
We see hansen for goldy and a 4th. Hansen healthy scratch half the season.
We know the successes of our trades.
We have all of these pending free agents and this management preaches the value of desire for picks and prospects but are reluctant (so far) to engage.
As a fan, i just want progress. I can wait 10 more years if i have to. Progression and an end goal is all we really want to see.

- Codes1087

JB brought in 2/3 of the shutdown line. Sutter/ Eriksson.

Propelled the prospect pool to respectability.

Management has shown real loyalty to the Sedin's and Edler. Something that Gaudette has said something that is huge to him.

Take the bad with the good.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
You mean Kane - EP - Tavares wont be a thing lol.
- Codes1087


Pretty confident that won’t happen.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
So you're mad at other GM's for not making trades with Canucks management (who clearly want to make moves).

Got it.

- dbot



So then we need a GM who dictates to other GM’s & fleeces them time & time again. Must be many of those around lol
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
I’ll bite...

Figure how to force NMC’s & NTC’s to waive & go to any team & I’ll agree 😂😂

Start with Kesler, Sedins & Edler there is 4 pieces to work with. Thx

- Nighthawk


The canucks should be actively engaging teams with every team on interest for anyone not named bo or brock, and obv edler and sedins (restrictions). I mean all active canuck roster players in the above to clarify.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
Pretty confident that won’t happen.
- 1970vintage


Lol tell the boys who have pre-pencilled in free agents.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Feb 25 @ 4:23 PM ET
We see burrows for dahlen. Burrows on waivers.
We see shinkaruk for granlund. Shinkaruk on waivers.
We see hansen for goldy and a 4th. Hansen healthy scratch half the season.
We know the successes of our trades.
We have all of these pending free agents and this management preaches the value of desire for picks and prospects but are reluctant (so far) to engage.
As a fan, i just want progress. I can wait 10 more years if i have to. Progression and an end goal is all we really want to see.

- Codes1087

Maybe just maybe other GM's are trying to fleece benning and he isn't budging and sticking to his high price tag, we will see. I not going to judge anything till after the summer and see what has been done and I am not going to resort to name calling like idiot and dummy etc.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
Show me the canucks are actively and clearly shopping to make moves.
- Codes1087


unfortunately JB and TL haven't returned my calls.
So i can't provide you their phone records.

history is usually a good indicator though, and as you mentioned last TDL they made the moves they did, with an eye to the future.

what they can't do is force the other GM's to accept trade proposals.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 25 @ 4:24 PM ET
So you're mad at other GM's for not making trades with Canucks management (who clearly want to make moves).

Got it.

- dbot


Not at all. Some GMs get creative (sometimes too creative) trying to correct past mistakes. They make things happen by selling what limited assets they have, not just advertising them and hopes someone stops by for a look.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
I don't think people are angry just frustrated watching this team and management spin their tires.
- A_SteamingLombardi



More like an unorthodox rebuild given who the owner is & how its played out. That has changed & we are only truly into our 2nd year of the process. It created a big lag yes but it is on track pretty much looking ahead. Sure we have a few players needing to be phased out but its coming.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 25 @ 4:25 PM ET
It would be great if we started a rebuild one day.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Maybe when Green doesn't get re-signed in 4 more years he ca let Trev and Jim know the core is really stale also . Then they might listen
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
???
- A_SteamingLombardi


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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
???
- A_SteamingLombardi



Are we not rebuilding now?
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