People like gudbransons signing. People like green. People like linden and benning. People have said they are ok with vanek past TDL. People are ok the sedins being re-signed a year or two longer. If you are ok with any of the above, you are a pom pom waver. Cause no change = constant path of not only mediocrity, but failure, as we have seen.
- Codes1087

alright boss man.

Anyone who believes we are 3 years away from being competitive, or a few pieces away from competitive. Anyone who thinks trevor has the slightest clue into anything management related. Anyone who thinks we should keep vanek past 12:01 tomorrow. Anyone who is ok with mediocrity. Any of the above. Fair?
- Codes1087

I need names names names 😂😂
I cannot go to court without evidence.

Friends that are oiler fans were rubbing it in on me when lucic picked the oilers over the nucks and I laughed and said he will play himself out of the league in 2 to 3 years and they all said I was nuts
- Bettmanhatesus

Glass houses..we signed LE to an identical contract lol

via GIPHY

- dbot

Im not mad. Im just not complacent with mediocrity and i am not dumb enough to think evander kane is going to be a good signing savior.

I believe any team can be three years away from being competitive as long as idiots aren't running the show
- VANTEL

I also think the term competitive is subjective. But i don't want to split hairs here.

An owner who pays to the cap and produces the poopty product they do doesn't have a clue.

alright boss man.
- dbot

You have been presented examples and facts and reply with gifs. Lets discuss instead?

An owner who pays to the cap and produces the poopty product they do doesn't have a clue.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Friends that are oiler fans were rubbing it in on me when lucic picked the oilers over the nucks and I laughed and said he will play himself out of the league in 2 to 3 years and they all said I was nuts
- Bettmanhatesus

Cue the Lucic lovers who wanted us to sign him. For the record not I but I did want a few other UFA’s who are not great either.

😂😂

Im not mad. Im just not complacent with mediocrity and i am not dumb enough to think evander kane is going to be a good signing savior.
- Codes1087

Yeah, but who is happy with mediocrity??

quick answer - no one.

people just see things from a different angle (doesn't make them wrong/you right).

Kane could very well help the team, but again it's just a wee bit of an exaggeration to suggest he's a saviour. I highly doubt anyone here thinks he is that

I believe any team can be three years away from being competitive as long as idiots aren't running the show
- VANTEL

Watch the Rangers do it.

Im not mad. Im just not complacent with mediocrity and i am not dumb enough to think evander kane is going to be a good signing savior.
- Codes1087

All i suggest is look past the obvious of our current situation. By that look to the prospects & who we will have down the road. Say in 2-3 years what will we look like

If Vanek is moved are the negative nancies placated?
- dbot

Did the trade deadline end yesterday? it seems like it.

Watch the Rangers do it.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yup , Columbus did it Devils are doing it

Yeah, but who is happy with mediocrity??

quick answer - no one.

people just see things from a different angle (doesn't make them wrong/you right).

Kane could very well help the team, but again it's just a wee bit of an exaggeration to suggest he's a saviour. I highly doubt anyone here thinks he is that
- dbot

If you arent happy with mediocrity then why not embrace change? You have vanek who was acquired to be flipped, yet our fanbase talks of resigning, mentoring, etc. You sign stop gaps, but then talk about resigning vets. I have heard people talk about the cost od re-acquiring hansen ffs.

Yup , Columbus did it Devils are doing it
- VANTEL

even the leafs.

All i suggest is look past the obvious of our current situation. By that look to the prospects & who we will have down the road. Say in 2-3 years what will we look like
- Nighthawk

In 2-3 years we will have the same owner, President and GM.

All i suggest is look past the obvious of our current situation. By that look to the prospects & who we will have down the road. Say in 2-3 years what will we look like
- Nighthawk

Didnt we do this when they released the "change is coming" picture like 3 years ago?

Yup , Columbus did it Devils are doing it
- VANTEL

It would be great if we started a rebuild one day.

All i suggest is look past the obvious of our current situation. By that look to the prospects & who we will have down the road. Say in 2-3 years what will we look like
- Nighthawk

The future is still up in the air. Every pick could make an impact, but it is as likely that prospects will never make a mark in the NHL.

I also think the term competitive is subjective. But i don't want to split hairs here.
- dbot

Competitive to me is not doormats.
Winning or losing is subjective.
How we lose is my focus & looking into the why’s & whats of it. Sure we look horrible now & for some its been too long already but thats why developing & not rushing prospects is even more important. We are in a downturn after cup runs & the fact of it is apparent & not many teams can ckaim the same. In fact the term on the rise or trending up is overused & mainstream but still only 1 team will hoist the cup in the enf

Burrows on waivers - feel a little sorry for the possible end of a great career

If you arent happy with mediocrity then why not embrace change? You have vanek who was acquired to be flipped, yet our fanbase talks of resigning, mentoring, etc. You sign stop gaps, but then talk about resigning vets. I have heard people talk about the cost od re-acquiring hansen ffs.
- Codes1087

i guess i just don't know who you're talking about and don't think it's as black/white as you make it out to be.

i'm fine with signing Guddy. WAs happy with the moves at the last tdl (aka embracing change).
Was glad we moved on from Wille and liked the Green signing (still do).
i think changes need to be made, but don't think we need/can do a complete tear down.

and i guess i just don't see the point in getting angry over it all.

Burrows on waivers - feel a little sorry for the possible end of a great career
- 69Mach1

take the money and run.
run all the way to the ball hockey tournament.

The future is still up in the air. Every pick could make an impact, but it is as likely that prospects will never make a mark in the NHL.
- 1970vintage

You mean Kane - EP - Tavares wont be a thing lol.