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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 9:50 AM ET
Yes BUT... all the players they gave up are HORRIBLE and the picks will never amount to anything.

But also, NYR fleeced Boston and got a really good roster player, a grinder, a TOP D prospect and some top quality picks.

- markmark


Honestly, I could have appreciated getting Nash for Spooner and a pick or something... Hell I could live with Lindgren being in the deal.

Throwing a first round pick on top of that is just silly.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:51 AM ET

- Scabeh


Babs is telling him "we really need you, cause I can't stand Moore. You're a good pl'r and Moore is not so good pl'r"
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 9:51 AM ET
Yeah, the 2nd rd pick the Leafs gave up will turn into Roman Josi. The 1st rd pick the Bruins gave up will end up being Alexander Daigle. It's already been decided by UG
- PatC80


Well the draft isn't a gamble like trying to win the cup remember?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 26 @ 9:52 AM ET
Honestly, I could have appreciated getting Nash for Spooner and a pick or something... Hell I could live with Lindgren being in the deal.

Throwing a first round pick on top of that is just silly.

- Scabeh


Probably (frank)s up the Kane trade today, Buffalo is probably saying "look what Boston gave up but give me more"

It's stupid when teams overlay because than other teams automatically think they should overpay for their players too
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
Honestly, I could have appreciated getting Nash for Spooner and a pick or something... Hell I could live with Lindgren being in the deal.

Throwing a first round pick on top of that is just silly.

- Scabeh



I think Spooner alone is an overpayment..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
Well the draft isn't a gamble like trying to win the cup remember?
- Scabeh

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
Well the draft isn't a gamble like trying to win the cup remember?
- Scabeh

The Leafs have so much money to put into their scouts that there is no gamble whatsoever. Gaurenteed Josi like player for the leafs pick
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:53 AM ET
For sure, after tonight they really don't have a tough test for the rest of the season
- Santo_44



Yep... gives Matthews time to recover..No need to rush back..
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
Probably (frank)s up the Kane trade today, Buffalo is probably saying "look what Boston gave up but give me more"

It's stupid when teams overlay because than other teams automatically think they should overpay for their players too

- Santo_44


Buffalo will pull a Browns on that one
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 9:54 AM ET
There is next to no risk in this transaction for the Rangers. They’re not even sacrificing offence given that Spooner has outproduced Nash over the last three seasons (.573 points per game compared to .545), albeit while largely being deployed in more favourable offensive situations.

- Sportsnet

Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:55 AM ET
Buffalo will pull a Browns on that one
- TheMussel


John Shannon @JSportsnet
5m
There is still an expectation that he will be dealt...but the price won't be as high as expected.


garth will lose it..
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 9:55 AM ET
Buffalo will pull a Browns on that one
- TheMussel


I'm telling ya, this is gonna end up like Vanek when the Habs traded for him a few years back.

A prospect and a 2nd for Kane.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
Yep... gives Matthews time to recover..No need to rush back..
- Fruitcakenipple


I'd give him rest too, home ice advantage is meh

However, if they win tonight they have a real chance at catching TB with their schedule. A Columbus or Isles 1st round would be a bit better
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 26 @ 9:56 AM ET
Beard gone...


- Fruitcakenipple



who is it?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
who is it?
- bixll



Turtleneck
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Feb 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
I'm telling ya, this is gonna end up like Vanek when the Habs traded for him a few years back.

A prospect and a 2nd for Kane.

- Scabeh

Serves them right for waiting until the last min.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Feb 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
Yeah, the 2nd rd pick the Leafs gave up will turn into Roman Josi. The 1st rd pick the Bruins gave up will end up being Alexander Daigle. It's already been decided by UG
- PatC80


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:57 AM ET
There is next to no risk in this transaction for the Rangers. They’re not even sacrificing offence given that Spooner has outproduced Nash over the last three seasons (.573 points per game compared to .545), albeit while largely being deployed in more favourable offensive situations.

- Sportsnet


- Scabeh



See.. Spooner for Nash is an overpay... Now Spooner, Beleksy, Lindgren, a 1st and a 7th... That seems like a yuuge overpay. Good for the Rangers.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
See.. Spooner for Nash is an overpay... Now Spooner, Beleksy, Lindgren, a 1st and a 7th... That seems like a yuuge overpay. Good for the Rangers.
- PatC80



Rags trading Spooner today...Interesting to see what they get for him..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 26 @ 9:59 AM ET
Turtleneck
- Fruitcakenipple



oh... he plays great or he sits,, oh well..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Feb 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
Serves them right for trading us Plek... Wankers..
- Santo_44



Fixed
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Feb 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
oh... he plays great or he sits,, oh well..
- bixll

Don't worry about Plek, he will do his job, he's a pro, not much offense left but he will work hard.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
Rags trading Spooner today...Interesting to see what they get for him..
- Fruitcakenipple


Really?
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Feb 26 @ 10:00 AM ET
See.. Spooner for Nash is an overpay... Now Spooner, Beleksy, Lindgren, a 1st and a 7th... That seems like a yuuge overpay. Good for the Rangers.
- PatC80


Price aside, I read somewhere that Spooner is deployed at like 80%+ offensive zone starts.

Still doesn't make much sense to me though if they're trying to get a better two way player... they're already 31 in GA.... you'd think they'd spend those assets on upgrading offensive firepower...
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 26 @ 10:01 AM ET
I have faith in Leafs management and scouting as much as the next guy, but this idea that because of Hunter et al, lower round picks are somehow so much more valuable doesn't make any sense to me. They are still low percentage. And they still aren't trading away all their picks. It seems to me they are striking a balance between being competitive now, while still having things coming through the pipeline, which is what you want to do.
- Zezel

There has been absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Dubas and Hunter are good at finding gems deep in the draft.

I'm not saying this to be a negative Nelly - those picks may someday pan out.

But to date, absolutely no indication whatsoever that they have any magical formula to draft good guys late.

None.
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