got in because of injuries, then Babs had to keep him up because he was that good, Aaltonen didnt get his chance because of injuries, ir he would be up here too
- ToMaLe

Goats been up...why not Aaltonen if he's that good? Conspiracy I'll bet.

https://www.tsn.ca/statis...draft-pick-value-1.786131

For those against the 2nd round pick. Here's a good set of stats over the course of 2 decades. 11% chance on average for the pick to become a meaningful player.

Picks are good but it's a crapshoot anyway.
- Aaron_85

Yep, and when you have a young core as the Leafs. Picks are even less worth to the Leafs

guess all you want, i really dont care lol
- ToMaLe

i think you do care. you seem very upset over this 2nd round pick

https://www.tsn.ca/statis...draft-pick-value-1.786131

For those against the 2nd round pick. Here's a good set of stats over the course of 2 decades. 11% chance on average for the pick to become a meaningful player.

Picks are good but it's a crapshoot anyway.
- Aaron_85

That's the "average" meaning all teams, good and bad. Doesn't really take into account that the Leafs could throw as much money at scouting and drafting as they want and get better results than 11% and just two years ago they drafted Dermott so they're doing better now than they once did.

And even if it was 11%, I'd still take that over 27 games of the turtleneck wearing sack of Hab poop that is Plekanec.

should really tell someone who cares .....and i paid it to get in to the hockey pool dumbass.
- ToMaLe

Season Ticket Holder trumps dumbass.

You're hoping for a miracle for an 11% chance the 2nd round pick turns out to be Bergeron.
- Aaron_85

We cant hope the leafs can go on a run in the playoffs but he can hope the Leafs draft a franchise player in the 2nd round. And a very late one at that.

He's still a Marlie - so maybe we'll get to see if your are right. My guess he never sees the NHL.
- Woderwick

Lol its his first year. He's adapting and he's done a fairly good job imo. He's been really good as of late. Unfortunately he was dropped on his head and got knocked out last night. Most likely has a concussion so hopefully that doesn't mess with his development down the road.

https://www.tsn.ca/statis...draft-pick-value-1.786131

For those against the 2nd round pick. Here's a good set of stats over the course of 2 decades. 11% chance on average for the pick to become a meaningful player.

Picks are good but it's a crapshoot anyway.
- Aaron_85

When our young stars get their big contracts, we need these young draft picks to make our club on entry level salaries, cant go throwing them away like candy. High picks are gold in a cap era.

guess all you want, i really dont care lol
- ToMaLe

There we go.

That's the "average" meaning all teams, good and bad. Doesn't really take into account that the Leafs could throw as much money at scouting and drafting as they want and get better results than 11% and just two years ago they drafted Dermott so they're doing better now than they once did.

And even if it was 11%, I'd still take that over 27 games of the turtleneck wearing sack of Hab poop that is Plekanec.
- Unholy_Goalie

Look at the percentage for picks from 50-61...they are pretty brutal

You're hoping for a miracle for an 11% chance the 2nd round pick turns out to be Bergeron.
- Aaron_85

Still better than Plekanec for 27 games.

Still better than Plekanec for 27 games.
- Unholy_Goalie

The GM disagrees

There's is a reason you are posting on HB and not a GM

Lol its his first year. He's adapting and he's done a fairly good job imo. He's been really good as of late. Unfortunately he was dropped on his head and got knocked out last night. Most likely has a concussion so hopefully that doesn't mess with his development down the road.
- LeafGuy89

Saw that...hope he's ok.

Still better than Plekanec for 27 games.
- Unholy_Goalie

Stuart Percy says hi

That's the "average" meaning all teams, good and bad. Doesn't really take into account that the Leafs could throw as much money at scouting and drafting as they want and get better results than 11% and just two years ago they drafted Dermott so they're doing better now than they once did.

And even if it was 11%, I'd still take that over 27 games of the turtleneck wearing sack of Hab poop that is Plekanec.
- Unholy_Goalie

Hitting on one pick could be luck as much as improved scouting. Bracco and Korshov havent proven anything to say they will ever be NHLer's. I have high hope for Grundstrom but until he dominates somewhere or cracks the roster it means nothing.

Stuart Percy says hi
- imsorry66

Rickard Rakell says hi. So does John Gibson.

We cant hope the leafs can go on a run in the playoffs but he can hope the Leafs draft a franchise player in the 2nd round. And a very late one at that.
- Santo_44

who is not hoping the Leafs go on a long playoff run? I want to this year and next year and the year after that.....drafting is the way to do it...unless you loved the Burke years. Pleks is not going to put us over the top lol

Hitting on one pick could be luck as much as improved scouting. Bracco and Korshov havent proven anything to say they will ever be NHLer's. I have high hope for Grundstrom but until he dominates somewhere or cracks the roster it means nothing.
- HealthyScratch6

Do you like Travis Dermott?

The GM disagrees

There's is a reason you are posting on HB and not a GM
- Santo_44

and if you think GMs dont make mistakes you are very sadly mistaken. we all make mistakes, GMs are not a god lol

When our young stars get their big contracts, we need these young draft picks to make our club on entry level salaries, cant go throwing them away like candy. High picks are gold in a cap era.
- ToMaLe

Fair point that they will need young and cheap guys to fill out the roster. Here's a list of 15 to 20 not including any drafted this coming year or next. They will find the guys within to do as you say. https://thehockeywriters....e-leafs-top-20-prospects/

Also if picks were like gold then why didn't Nash or Pleks only cost a draft pick?

Stuart Percy says hi
- imsorry66

Scored against the Marlies yesterday during their 3rd period melt down.

who is not hoping the Leafs go on a long playoff run? I want to this year and next year and the year after that.....drafting is the way to do it...unless you loved the Burke years. Pleks is not going to put us over the top lol
- ToMaLe

its a depth move. In case any centre goes down now we actually have an NHL centre to replace them with. They didn't go out and trade their next 3 first round pics to JT

who is not hoping the Leafs go on a long playoff run? I want to this year and next year and the year after that.....drafting is the way to do it...unless you loved the Burke years. Pleks is not going to put us over the top lol
- ToMaLe

They drafted them. The core is one player away from being set

Matthews Marner Kadri Rielly Nylander Zaitzev Andersen etc

Enough of this hording draft picks. They have their core set. They want to try and win every year. They still have 7 draft picks and a 2nd still this year. Calm down, they traded a draft pick to help them try and win. It's the way they will be running the TDL for the next decade and get used to it.

who is not hoping the Leafs go on a long playoff run? I want to this year and next year and the year after that.....drafting is the way to do it...unless you loved the Burke years. Pleks is not going to put us over the top lol
- ToMaLe

There are always going to be free agents from other leagues in Europe. Always other options dude, stop hating on the trade so much. Lou isn't a dummy

That's the "average" meaning all teams, good and bad. Doesn't really take into account that the Leafs could throw as much money at scouting and drafting as they want and get better results than 11% and just two years ago they drafted Dermott so they're doing better now than they once did.

And even if it was 11%, I'd still take that over 27 games of the turtleneck wearing sack of Hab poop that is Plekanec.
- Unholy_Goalie

I know what an average is. However that's over 20+ drafts. That's over 4000 draft picks. Specifically, 600 second round picks. That's not a small sample size no matter how you look at it.

Dermott has only played maybe two dozen games. You can't make any for sure judgement calls on him. Jury is still out.