I was thinking more a swap. Since they are looking to shed salary you could swap Smith and Weise, who has a year less and lower cap hit, and maybe a low level pick. I don't Smith will get a ton. 2019 4th rounder? Maybe a player like Taylor Leier? I like Smith because he has decent size, plays with and edge, has some skill and can kill penalties. Seems like a perfect guy for the playoffs.
- J35Bacher

Agreed, I like him, he's got some 'sandpaper' to his game that would be a nice replacement on that bottom line.

Maybe a 4th would do it, but that's what Letestu went for, and I think Smith is worth more than that. Again, the length of contract is also going to demand more than a 4th.

But, if a 2019 4th and Taylor Leier would land us Smith, I would entertain the thought. Again, still worried about that 3mil/3years remaining deal for a bottom 6 player.

Bobby. Bobby. Bobby.
- hereticpride

Plz Stawp.

Did we get Simmonds' good friend yet?

Plz Stawp.
- VladDrag

He's signed for much more money and years than Lehtera but he's better than him. I don't see what the problem is. #richardsoutforbobby

He's signed for much more money and years than Lehtera but he's better than him. I don't see what the problem is. #richardsoutforbobby
- hereticpride

#datcontractdoe

Here's the thing. They might not have to. they have a legit number one guy in Provorov and the maturation in Gostisbehere's game has been incredible. I don't think they need Karlsson. The way Gostisbehere's game has improved, all around, his contract could be a steal. Especially if he gets some Noris chatter, which I think he should this year.
- J35Bacher

I agree. Sanheim has the chance to be a top defenseman in the league. If Myers can ever get and stay healthy he could be a pretty good player. Then there is Morin and other lower grade prospects. It simply doesn't make sense for the Flyers to pursue Karlsson. Especially not for some of the ridiculous proposals offered.

Here's the thing. They might not have to. they have a legit number one guy in Provorov and the maturation in Gostisbehere's game has been incredible. I don't think they need Karlsson. The way Gostisbehere's game has improved, all around, his contract could be a steal. Especially if he gets some Noris chatter, which I think he should this year.
- J35Bacher

I agree. Provorov is already getting leaguewide attention as a potential future Norris contender. Ghost is a premier offensively minded defenseman whose defensive game has really come around. Hopefully Sanheim is a crossbreed of them, and Hagg and Morin can give them some solid shutdown options. Myers is a wildcard.

We've spent all of this time drafting and developing youth, let's not piss a lot of it away for a guy who we won't be able to resign in a little over a year.

Did we get Simmonds' good friend yet?
- hereticpride

We get it.

http://www.hockeydabeast413.xyz/ustream.html

You're welcome
- Tomahawk

AWESOME - THANK YOU!

If all Hextall does is put a claim in on Oduya today I'd be fine with that no need to over pay for a rental that isn't going to be here long term. If something else makes sense and is a hockey trade that can benefit the Flyers now and in the future then go ahead but I don't see the point in mortgaging the future in the position the Flyers are in right now and I doubt Hextall does either. Even if they don't get a d-man Sanheim in the minors can act like a deadline acquisition from within. Nonetheless we will see what happens.

#HaggForCalder

If all Hextall does is put a claim in on Oduya today I'd be fine with that no need to over pay for a rental that isn't going to be here long term. If something else makes sense and is a hockey trade that can benefit the Flyers now and in the future then go ahead but I don't see the point in mortgaging the future in the position the Flyers are in right now and I doubt Hextall does either. Even if they don't get a d-man Sanheim in the minors can act like a deadline acquisition from within. Nonetheless we will see what happens.
- FreshFlyer

Sanheim has played 7 minutes of NHL action in the past 3 months. I don't think throwing him into a playoff series is wise unless they can get him some serious NHL minutes over the next 2 months.

Assuming they make the playoffs.

I agree. Provorov is already getting leaguewide attention as a potential future Norris contender. Ghost is a premier offensively minded defenseman whose defensive game has really come around. Hopefully Sanheim is a crossbreed of them, and Hagg and Morin can give them some solid shutdown options. Myers is a wildcard.

We've spent all of this time drafting and developing youth, let's not piss a lot of it away for a guy who we won't be able to resign in a little over a year.
- jmatchett383

Agreed on the most part, but Myers, to me, isn't a wildcard. He's going to be a quality player in the NHL some day, maybe even next year. There are some in the organization who believe he's further along than Sanheim was last year at the same time. Doesn't mean that he'll be starting in the NHL next year, but I think he's higher on the depth chart than some might think.

Bobby. Bobby. Bobby.
- hereticpride

You know, at the big important meeting of all Cherry Hillians this morning, we talked about Bobby for about 45 minutes.

The plan is, when the Flyers give away the shop for him, they'll do the parade right down the middle of the Garden State Park shopping center, between the Best Buy and the Wegman's. The parade will run down Haddonfield Road and terminate at the parking lot of the Cherry Hill Mall, where our true leader will give an impassioned speech.

Be sure not to miss it!

Agreed on the most part, but Myers, to me, isn't a wildcard. He's going to be a quality player in the NHL some day, maybe even next year. There are some in the organization who believe he's further along than Sanheim was last year at the same time. Doesn't mean that he'll be starting in the NHL next year, but I think he's higher on the depth chart than some might think.
- VladDrag

I say wildcard due to injuries. Until he can stay healthy for the majority of a season, he's not a guy you can pencil in. Apparently, none of his injuries are chronic which is good, but some guys are just injury prone (the WJC concussion notwithstanding).

I agree. Sanheim has the chance to be a top defenseman in the league. If Myers can ever get and stay healthy he could be a pretty good player. Then there is Morin and other lower grade prospects. It simply doesn't make sense for the Flyers to pursue Karlsson. Especially not for some of the ridiculous proposals offered.
- MJL

The Gostisbehere development has been huge. Especially in his own zone now. They have the making of a top pair. Hagg playing the tough situations now is only going to help next year when you bring in some more youth. Also Hagg could lead way to moving Gudas in the offseason, as Hagg brings a physical game, which I didn't realize he had.

I like the way the young guys are developing as you can see a succession plan for some youth to replace veteran roles.

Did we get Simmonds' good friend yet?
- hereticpride

Beat the dead horse some more lol. Jesus, one mention of Stewart being Simmonds’s friend and that’s all you can focus on?

Sanheim has played 7 minutes of NHL action in the past 3 months. I don't think throwing him into a playoff series is wise unless they can get him some serious NHL minutes over the next 2 months.

Assuming they make the playoffs.
- jmatchett383

I really think that he's one of the guys that could push this team another step forward. His offensive game is already at an 'elite' level. His 5v5 GF/GA is a staggering 17 to 6. He is not learning at the AHL anymore. He needs to be in the NHL now.

**This is no way shape or form mean that I am not happy with where the Flyers are in the Standings**

Sanheim has played 7 minutes of NHL action in the past 3 months. I don't think throwing him into a playoff series is wise unless they can get him some serious NHL minutes over the next 2 months.

Assuming they make the playoffs.
- jmatchett383

Its going to get interesting when they have to compile their Black Aces list this year. Will they put Sanheim on it or leave him in LHV to lead the defense on the playoff run.

Will Sam be healthy enough to be a Black Ace and not be in LHV since the pairs have been running without him for a month?

Will be very interested to see who they bring up.

I really think that he's one of the guys that could push this team another step forward. His offensive game is already at an 'elite' level. His 5v5 GF/GA is a staggering 17 to 6. He is not learning at the AHL anymore. He needs to be in the NHL now.

**This is no way shape or form mean that I am not happy with where the Flyers are in the Standings**
- VladDrag

I agree, but we've beaten that horse to dead, buried it, poured cement on it, and detonated a nuke on it. Unless the team falls off the rails or we suffer a long-term injury to one of our D, he's not coming up any time soon.

Its going to get interesting when they have to compile their Black Aces list this year. Will they put Sanheim on it or leave him in LHV to lead the defense on the playoff run.

Will Sam be healthy enough to be a Black Ace and not be in LHV since the pairs have been running without him for a month?

Will be very interested to see who they bring up.
- juiced

I'd think they'll try to keep both teams competitive. No reason to keep Morin and Sanheim sitting in the press box while LHV is in the playoffs. They'll name them as Black Aces, but I don't believe the Black Aces can't play in the AHL as well.

I really think that he's one of the guys that could push this team another step forward. His offensive game is already at an 'elite' level. His 5v5 GF/GA is a staggering 17 to 6. He is not learning at the AHL anymore. He needs to be in the NHL now.

**This is no way shape or form mean that I am not happy with where the Flyers are in the Standings**
- VladDrag

I wouldn't say it is elite. Gostisbehere had elite offensive game. Sanheim has a solid offensive game but i think he needs to be more well rounded as he just isn't as dynamic offensively as Gostisbehere.

I see Sanheim more of a McDougnah type.

My apologies for not coming in and setting the record straight earlier. Skimmed the last 20 pages

Filppula isn't very good. What I dislike about him is that using him higher in the lineup makes other players worse. Using him with Lehtera and Weise actually makes him look like an NHL player. He is good in the offensive zone, pretty good in the defensive zone, but between them and going from one to the other isn't working well anymore. It has been trending that way for years. The guy isn't a viable top 6 center in the NHL anymore and only works in the top 9 with certain players. They got him for free so I don't care that he is here, but the over use of him doesn't prove there weren't better lineups

Lindblom played like this from the 2nd month of the season on. Anyone with eyes and a brain that has watched him knows he was NHL ready long ago. Don't BS all over the place talking like the Flyers painted this development masterpiece. Simmonds gets injured and he is suddenly ready! There was plenty of ice time available in the NHL for him. They played Simmonds ineffectively on his off wing before trying Lindbomb

Hextall wants to be cautious. At least he is sticking to his plan. You cannot tell me he is now going to become a better player than he was if they called him up 3 months ago. You cannot tell me he couldn't "transition to a smaller rink" while playing in a league he was good enough for. I am okay with what Hextall is doing, but I don't think it is the best. Just unnecessarily cautious in many ways. I will take what he is doing 10 times out of 10 over someone that drafts poopty players though. He has done an incredible job in the draft. Drafting good players is the best way to develop good players

I wouldn't say it is elite. Gostisbehere had elite offensive game. Sanheim has a solid offensive game but i think he needs to be more well rounded as he just isn't as dynamic offensively as Gostisbehere.

I see Sanheim more of a McDougnah type.
- J35Bacher

I agree. McD (from like 4 years ago) is where I see his top level.

I just saw Black Panther which is great. I thought it was interesting that the only white guys in the movie were Gollum and Bilbo.
- Marc D

Otherwise known as the Tolkien White Guys.