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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
So some quick calculations if we sign all our RFAs except Kuhnhackl and call up Sprong next year we'd be at around 74-76M in cap space used with 11F, 7D, and 2G. No room for Hornqvist or another name wing without cutting, but no need to dump anyone either.
- Tojo.


Isn't the rumored cap to be 80-82m?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Feb 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
47s48 seconds ago

PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention.
4 replies 95 retweets 84 likes

- j.boyd919




So, is that where Cole is going?
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
Hasn't this year. Question will be is ZAR or Guentzel good enough or do they play Rowney. They have the option of giving Crosby or Malkin some extra shifts on the 4th line and playing Sheahan at wing so the 12th forward isn't super important at even strength.
- Tojo.


I could easily see Rowney getting 5/6 mins for PK and FO duty. Basically stealing Reaves spot. No question you'd do that if you don't think Brassard will pk very much. Honestly, I don't have nearly the problem with Rowney on wing as I do with him at center.
willi
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada
Joined: 01.30.2015

Feb 23 @ 5:10 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
47s48 seconds ago

PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention.
4 replies 95 retweets 84 likes

- j.boyd919


That makes sense to spread the cap around
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 5:12 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
47s48 seconds ago

PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention.
4 replies 95 retweets 84 likes

- j.boyd919


Vegas isn't going to do that for free.....so I wonder what else is to come?
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 23 @ 5:16 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
47s48 seconds ago

PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention.
4 replies 95 retweets 84 likes

- j.boyd919


This is getting crazy.
Darklight11
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Nanaimo , BC
Joined: 04.23.2016

Feb 23 @ 5:16 PM ET
Vegas isn't going to do that for free.....so I wonder what else is to come?
- madmike71


LOL, this trade has had me glued to the computer for the last 5 hours. Vegas is getting something perhaps Cole...
hipcheck_goalie
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: shreveport, LA
Joined: 02.08.2012

Feb 23 @ 5:19 PM ET
This is getting crazy.
- acdc1206

Bobby Ryan and EK to VGS...
Reverend Killtaker
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Alexandria, VA
Joined: 07.02.2008

Feb 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
VGK have tons of picks to flip with.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
Bob McKenzie
‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie
47s48 seconds ago

PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention.
4 replies 95 retweets 84 likes

- j.boyd919


wut
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Feb 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
Does brass ballz play tonight ?
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
I could easily see Rowney getting 5/6 mins for PK and FO duty. Basically stealing Reaves spot. No question you'd do that if you don't think Brassard will pk very much. Honestly, I don't have nearly the problem with Rowney on wing as I do with him at center.
- madmike71

Same. He was decent last year when all he did was go forecheck.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
wut
- YouMeAndDupuis9


Probably getting Vegas to pick up some of the salary somehow too.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Feb 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
Where are you seeing this?
- j.boyd919


I only got a text after the trade that said “cole should be headed back to the metro Once this trade is figured out. Next 24hrs...” The rest was kind of scrambled as I was trying to find out what team. Obviously could be wrong or things could change
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:25 PM ET
Isn't the rumored cap to be 80-82m?
- j.boyd919

Yeah but next time it goes the highest people quote will be first I remember. Just don't see a 6M salary fitting unless they shed a contract.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
Probably getting Vegas to pick up some of the salary somehow too.
- j.boyd919

Mayne Vegas did the salary retention to get Cole?
taleisyreXIII
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ON
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
Maybe Vegas owed the pens one after the MAF situ. We don't know all the convos behind the scenes.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Feb 23 @ 5:29 PM ET
Does brass ballz play tonight ?
- pensfan024


Very hard to get an American visa that quickly. They have to get a work visa just like everybody else would. Teams do have specialty people that do that solely for them but I highly doubt he would play that quickly anyways.
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Feb 23 @ 5:44 PM ET
As for how this all plays out, it looks like like McKenzie said Vegas is the team so I believe ottawa will give some sort of asset to Vegas to eat the salary of brassard so ottawa takes $0 on. Vegas will then send brassard to pens for a small asset back is what I think is happening. Just my guess. Confused as everyone else I think haha
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:46 PM ET
Wow, pretty (frank)ing awesome job JR to lock up a guy as good as Brassard (still working on his call sign ). She-man down to 4th line C is insane!

Vegas probably gets a pick from the Sens to hold onto some salary, I wonder how the trade will be written out though? Are there any rules stating how these trades have to transpire?

Sens to Vegas Brassard + a 4th round pick for salary retention plus a Pens 1st, Gustavson & Cole???
Pens to Vegas the above less the 4th rounder from the Sens??

1 can't be done before the other though so I'm confused......
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 23 @ 5:58 PM ET
Brassard trade is rejected

According to Kypreos, so maybe there's a chance its still good
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
Also, another old Ranger suring up the Pens!
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 23 @ 5:59 PM ET
Brassard trade is rejected
- nelson911


Whattttt
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 6:02 PM ET
Brassard trade is rejected

According to Kypreos, so maybe there's a chance its still good

- nelson911

I'm going to be constantly refreshing my phone tonight...
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Feb 23 @ 6:07 PM ET
I'm going to be constantly refreshing my phone tonight...
- Tojo.


Won’t believe it until I hear it from Bob or Lebrun
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