If you think this is bad, visit the hf forum. There's a thread in there called Fire Hakstol and it started last year.
- VladDrag

No thanks. I do not suffer fools gladly.

Lindblom playing well now that he finally gets the chance to play in the NHL proves he would not have been good earlier. The team playing very well now that they are more than a 1 line team with depth issues proves the team wouldn't have been better had they made the moves to do that earlier. I love how people that want the younger (read: better) players to play are somehow anti-organ-I-zation. I find it very reasonable to be completely happy they are 1 point out of 1st while acknowledging they aren't as good as they could be.
- YuenglingJagr

Nobody has a problem with anyone wanting young players to play. I do however have an issue with anyone wanting the young players to play just because they're young and ignoring the overriding factors of what is best for their development as a play for the more important future over the now.

No thanks. I do not suffer fools gladly.
- Scoob

*check URL*

Liar.

Hey that's great
- jmatchett383

Well I wouldn't call the job Hakstol has done great but it's pretty dam good. I think it's delusional to look at Hakstol's performance this season and label it more bad then good.

Well I wouldn't call the job Hakstol has done great but it's pretty dam good. I think it's delusional to look at Hakstol's performance this season and label it more bad then good.
- MJL

Hey that's great

its been 20 years for the olympics and 28 years for the world championships and they haven't really caught up. I thought with the Swedes winning silver in 2006 it was starting to happen but the reality was it happened because they had an amazing goalie in Kim Martin. Look at the Finns, they have Raty in goal but they still can't make a dent in catching up. its all about funding and opportunity for the women and its just not there in other countries like the US and Canada. and even more so for a long long time is was US/Canada then Sweden/Finland. Russia and the swiss have caught up to them at least.

sorry probably more women's hockey talk than anyone here wants. Being a long time female player who has been lucky to play with Shelley Looney and Nicole Uliasz who have played on the Olympic and national teams respectively, women's hockey is dear to me.
- nastyflyergirl

I agree on the money issue. It will take commitment by other countries. I really hope some will do what it takes.

As for "women's hockey," I like it. But I don't look at it like that. I look at it as hockey being played by women. The distinction is important.

*check URL*

Liar.
- jmatchett383

lol

The intelligent:fool ratio is high enough here that it's way more than tolerable. Other places, not so much.

Nobody has a problem with anyone wanting young players to play. I do however have an issue with anyone wanting the young players to play just because they're young and ignoring the overriding factors of what is best for their development as a play for the more important future over the now.
- MJL

I'm in the minority of people who, while wanting to see the kids, can be patient enough to wait considering the team already has quite a few kids already. I just don't think you can overcook a prospect but you can rush them. Maybe Lindblom could have played earlier but the Flyers were just fine without him. now that there is an injury he is getting a chance and lets hope he plays well enough to make Hextall make another move once Simmonds is back.

I agree on the money issue. It will take commitment by other countries. I really hope some will do what it takes.

As for "women's hockey," I like it. But I don't look at it like that. I look at it as hockey being played by women. The distinction is important.
- Scoob

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but "hockey played by women," currently, is not at the same skill level as "hockey played by men" when we're discussing the highest level. The competitive playing field is more or less the same for each gender, but the overall talent level is far superior in the men's game. That is why I think the "other" countries invest much more heavily in the men's game.

I agree on the money issue. It will take commitment by other countries. I really hope some will do what it takes.

As for "women's hockey," I like it. But I don't look at it like that. I look at it as hockey being played by women. The distinction is important.
- Scoob

agree on both accounts. at least there is opportunities for some of the women to play college hockey and face that competition but there needs to more opportunity. the worse thing for women's hockey is to continue to have the USA and Canada dominate.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but "hockey played by women," currently, is not at the same skill level as "hockey played by men" when we're discussing the highest level. The competitive playing field is more or less the same for each gender, but the overall talent level is far superior in the men's game. That is why I think the "other" countries invest much more heavily in the men's game.
- jmatchett383

I could be wrong here, but saying that men typically have superior physical skills which translates to the world of sporting is not sexist.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but "hockey played by women," currently, is not at the same skill level as "hockey played by men" when we're discussing the highest level. The competitive playing field is more or less the same for each gender, but the overall talent level is far superior in the men's game. That is why I think the "other" countries invest much more heavily in the men's game.
- jmatchett383

Yes. My point is that it's not "women's hockey" like it's some completely different sport. It's hockey.

Really liked that in-game adjustment by Hak to bump Lindblom to the 2nd unit. The 4th unit needs an overhaul (captain obvious). I'm not sure Leier Jet is an everyday NHL player. He's too diminutive and doesn't possess the top-end skill. I really noticed him last season in his call up and at the beginning of this season but not so much since his regular scratches started happening.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but "hockey played by women," currently, is not at the same skill level as "hockey played by men" when we're discussing the highest level. The competitive playing field is more or less the same for each gender, but the overall talent level is far superior in the men's game. That is why I think the "other" countries invest much more heavily in the men's game.
- jmatchett383

Obviously at the highest level men are always going to be physically superior because of just being stronger. But that shouldn't diminish the skill of these ladies. lamoureux winning shootout goal was pretty dammed skilled.

at the beer league level I've seen women totally school some guys

It's debatable that lindblom felt comfortable enough in his life that he wouldn't of been overwhelmed by another big change and his performance on the ice to suffer. Just like the sanheim vs manning debate it's not an argument of is sanheim better or is lindblom better - they are. It's a question of what is right for them. Lindblom benefited from the ahl and can now hopefully stay up and have a great career the 4 months in the minors will be laughable in a few years
- Tfaehner

Where are you getting the idea that Lindblom being promoted six weeks ago would have been some overwhelming life event that that he wouldn't have been prepared for?

He has 2 years left on his khl contract and seems completely uninterested in the nhl at this point. Has middle pairing potential though. We don't seem to have any of those currently.
- Tfaehner

Maybe this guy....

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=123080

Yes. My point is that it's not "women's hockey" like it's some completely different sport. It's hockey.
- Scoob

not being able to check does make it slightly a different game but, yes, i get your point. its simply hockey

Obviously at the highest level men are always going to be physically superior because of just being stronger. But that shouldn't diminish the skill of these ladies. lamoureux winning shootout goal was pretty dammed skilled.

at the beer league level I've seen women totally school some guys
- nastyflyergirl

Yep - saw it in my league last week

Obviously at the highest level men are always going to be physically superior because of just being stronger. But that shouldn't diminish the skill of these ladies. lamoureux winning shootout goal was pretty dammed skilled.

at the beer league level I've seen women totally school some guys
- nastyflyergirl

Don't get me wrong, that move would beat most NHL goalies. I'm talking more to the speed and physical strength of the women vs. men players.

And yes, at the lower levels, the disparity is not nearly as apparent (if there is one at all).

Obviously at the highest level men are always going to be physically superior because of just being stronger. But that shouldn't diminish the skill of these ladies. lamoureux winning shootout goal was pretty dammed skilled.

at the beer league level I've seen women totally school some guys
- nastyflyergirl

Yeah there's some really skilled female players in the NYC adult leagues. The teams play with both genders.

That was not why he was sent down.
- MJL

I'm not talking about Lindblom being sent down in October; that made sense. I'm talking about him not being called up in January when he already had three months of strong performances in the AHL under his belt.

I don't see any decisions made by the Flyers that even remotely reach the level of puzzling.
- MJL

Shocking

I'm in the minority of people who, while wanting to see the kids, can be patient enough to wait considering the team already has quite a few kids already. I just don't think you can overcook a prospect but you can rush them. Maybe Lindblom could have played earlier but the Flyers were just fine without him. now that there is an injury he is getting a chance and lets hope he plays well enough to make Hextall make another move once Simmonds is back.
- nastyflyergirl

Far too reasonable of a post for Hockeybuzz.

Shocking
- BiggE

Based on reality, it's not at all a shocking opinion.

Don't get me wrong, that move would beat most NHL goalies. I'm talking more to the speed and physical strength of the women vs. men players.

And yes, at the lower levels, the disparity is not nearly as apparent (if there is one at all).
- jmatchett383

No I agree with you. its not even a debate