obie
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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It's his sixth season, so I don't see it happening in Montreal. They'll trade for winger and try that winger down the middle. - mr.peanut
They would have to change management and coaches for him to be given a fair shot as a top 6 C again, so yea they will most likely trade him and he will become a real good 2nd line C somewhere else... He was never going to be a franchise C but this organization really dropped the ball with this kid, I know lots of fans believe it's his own doing and all |
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Harsh.
But I'm gonna go with "no" - dt99999
With a whopping 9 goals on the year.....and against a good team....you’re most likely right. That’s my guess as well. |
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The guy has no clue on how to play center. Galchenbust hasn't even been given a chance to prove he can't play center. - mr.peanut
GM and coaches egos will not let players thrive in their natural positions. They won’t let them grow and make mistakes as part of their maturation process.
Why hasn’t Carr been given a chance on an offensively dead team?
This team is the blueprint of how not to be successful in every facet |
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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1) It's Tavares.
2) Nobody really thinks that Tavares will sign here.
3) Shut up. - Not_Yan
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They would have to change management and coaches for him to be given a fair shot as a top 6 C again, so yea they will most likely trade him and he will become a real good 2nd line C somewhere else... He was never going to be a franchise C but this organization really dropped the ball with this kid, I know lots of fans believe it's his own doing and all - obie
Chuckie will be the next player to go and thrive elsewhere. Look at Pateryn (to much lesser degree) all he needed was a chance. The right players never get the chance here....only mind boggling favourites like Morrow
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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They would have to change management and coaches for him to be given a fair shot as a top 6 C again, so yea they will most likely trade him and he will become a real good 2nd line C somewhere else... He was never going to be a franchise C but this organization really dropped the ball with this kid, I know lots of fans believe it's his own doing and all - obie
He will thrive under Guy Carbonneau |
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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm a figment of your imagination. Joined: 11.09.2006
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The guy has no clue on how to play center. Galchenbust hasn't even been given a chance to prove he can't play center. - mr.peanut
Galchenyuk is a disaster defensively (-27 this year alone), he couldn't backcheck even if his life depended on it ... not an NHL centerman by any stretch of the imagination
His fancy stickhandling shtick might have worked in the juniors but he doesn't have the acceleration nor the speed necessary to be as effective at the NHL level.
Just watch how many times he loses the puck after trying one too many stickhandling move ... he just doesn't have the speed to get around opposing defensemen.
I expect him to be dealt before the end of his contract because he's not going to get any better. There always will be cheaper and more responsible wingers available on the market so why would they break the bank for him? |
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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 07.01.2008
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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Trade them all! - deadpoulet
Pretty sure the entire team gets you at least Halak and 2nd |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Galchenyuk is a disaster defensively (-27 this year alone), he couldn't backcheck even if his life depended on it ... not an NHL centerman by any stretch of the imagination
His fancy stickhandling shtick might have worked in the juniors but he doesn't have the acceleration nor the speed necessary to be as effective at the NHL level.
Just watch how many times he loses the puck after trying one too many stickhandling move ... he just doesn't have the speed to get around opposing defensemen.
I expect him to be dealt before the end of his next contract because he's not going to get better.
There always will be cheaper and more responsible wingers available on the market so why would they break the bank for him? - Garfield512
I disagree.
Chucky makes mistakes, but his 200 foot game has improved dramatically. He is not a floater like he was, and is much more defensively responsible than his linemates have been for the most part (specifically Drouin).
Also, +/- is the dumbest stat in hockey.
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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Montreal Joined: 07.01.2008
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Pretty sure the entire team gets you at least Halak and 2nd - dt99999
No Ryder? |
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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm a figment of your imagination. Joined: 11.09.2006
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I disagree.
Chucky makes mistakes, but his 200 foot game has improved dramatically. He is not a floater like he was, and is much more defensively responsible than his linemates have been for the most part (specifically Drouin).
Also, +/- is the dumbest stat in hockey. - Mashadar
Unfortunately, Julien (and previously Therrien) disagree with you ... so does Guy Carbonneau, Vincent Damphousse and a lot of other experienced NHL'ers.
These people are not all idiots, there's clearly severe problems with his defensive game ... if the guy could do the job at center don't you think he would already be playing there? ... the Habs are starving for freakin' centermen!
+/-'s might not matter to you but it does to people who analyse games (and tapes) seriously ... if the opposition scores more time than you do when you're on the ice then this makes you a liability to the team.
-27 is a whole lot of goals against ... no wonder they keep him on the wing (I would keep him on the bench to minimize damages).
Sadly, Chucky is not the promised centerman we all want him to be ... time to move on. Fans need to stop overvaluing him and look at reality. |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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No Ryder? - deadpoulet
We're keeping Shaw and Plekanec so no |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Unfortunately, Julien (and previously Therrien) disagree with you ... so does Guy Carbonneau, Vincent Damphousse and a lot of other experienced NHL'ers.
These people are not all idiots, there's clearly severe problems with his defensive game ... if the guy could do the job at center don't you think he would already be playing there? ... the Habs are starving for freakin' centermen!
+/-'s might not matter to you but it does to people who analyse games (and tapes) seriously ... if the opposition scores more time than you do when you're on the ice then this makes you a liability to the team.
-27 is a whole lot of goals against ... no wonder they keep him on the wing.
Sadly, Chucky is not the promised centerman we all want him to be ... time to move on. - Garfield512
I said he was not a disaster defensively, I did not say he was a center.
And +/- is as much about who is on the ice, not necessarily the player. Just like giveaways, a player who always has the puck or is asked to move the puck up the ice will have higher turnover numbers, that does not make them a bad player or a liability.
Using +/- to evaluate a player is akin to saying someone is racist because they voted for Trump - they may or may not be a racist. It is a statistically irrelevant datapoint.
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bluewaffle
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Hennywhere but here! Joined: 07.07.2012
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I said he was not a disaster defensively, I did not say he was a center.
And +/- is as much about who is on the ice, not necessarily the player. Just like giveaways, a player who always has the puck or is asked to move the puck up the ice will have higher turnover numbers, that does not make them a bad player or a liability.
Using +/- to evaluate a player is akin to saying someone is racist because they voted for Trump - they may or may not be a racist. It is a statistically irrelevant datapoint. - Mashadar
Or how a black person who never voted until 2008 voted for obama, did so again in 2012 and stopped after that. |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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Galchenyuk is a disaster defensively (-27 this year alone), he couldn't backcheck even if his life depended on it ... not an NHL centerman by any stretch of the imagination
His fancy stickhandling shtick might have worked in the juniors but he doesn't have the acceleration nor the speed necessary to be as effective at the NHL level.
Just watch how many times he loses the puck after trying one too many stickhandling move ... he just doesn't have the speed to get around opposing defensemen.
I expect him to be dealt before the end of his contract because he's not going to get any better. There always will be cheaper and more responsible wingers available on the market so why would they break the bank for him? - Garfield512
In his 6th season he's a career-30, including this mess of a season at -27, so he's basically an even player through his first 5 years... Jack Eichel is -43 through 3 seasons, I don't think Buffalo has had him play the LW on the 3rd and 4th lines
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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm a figment of your imagination. Joined: 11.09.2006
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I said he was not a disaster defensively, I did not say he was a center.
And +/- is as much about who is on the ice, not necessarily the player. Just like giveaways, a player who always has the puck or is asked to move the puck up the ice will have higher turnover numbers, that does not make them a bad player or a liability.
Using +/- to evaluate a player is akin to saying someone is racist because they voted for Trump - they may or may not be a racist. It is a statistically irrelevant datapoint. - Mashadar
Tell that to anyone in an NHL office and he'll laugh you out of the room.
If -27 is not a disaster defensively then what is? ... -50?
If you're paying a guy to score goals and he ends up being on the ice for more opposition's goals than what he brings ... then what use is he to the team?
For all his faults, even though Plekanec has slowed down and his contract is now way too rich for what he brings offensively, he's not going to cost you games ... Galchenyuk will.
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Tell that to anyone in an NHL office and he'll laugh you out of the room.
If -27 is not a disaster defensively then what is? ... -50?
If you're paying a guy to score goals and he ends up being on the ice for more opposition's goals than what he brings ... then what use is he to the team?
For all his faults, even though Plekanec has slowed down and his contract is now way too rich for what he brings offensively, he's not going to cost you games ... Galchenyuk will. - Garfield512
Meh +/- is a small indicator of a players overall game. Had they developped him properly who knows how well his 200 ft game could have been. He never was trusted, so he never learned in certain situations.
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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm a figment of your imagination. Joined: 11.09.2006
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In his 6th season he's a career-30, including this mess of a season at -27, so he's basically an even player through his first 5 years... Jack Eichel is -43 through 3 seasons, I don't think Buffalo has had him play the LW on the 3rd and 4th lines - obie
If he hasn't been able to prove to two coaches that he can be an NHL centerman after 6 years in the league, I doubt he ever will.
Time to cut our losses and get some assets and/or draft picks for him ... he's not what this teams needs. Wingers like him are a dime a dozen.
We'll soon forget about him once he's gone anyway. |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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Tell that to anyone in an NHL office and he'll laugh you out of the room.
If -27 is not a disaster defensively then what is? ... -50?
If you're paying a guy to score goals and he ends up being on the ice for more opposition's goals than what he brings ... then what use is he to the team?
For all his faults, even though Plekanec has slowed down and his contract is now way too rich for what he brings offensively, he's not going to cost you games ... Galchenyuk will. - Garfield512
That is like saying Galchenyuk has 2 game winning goals to Pleks 1 game winning goal, so Galchenyuk wins more game for the Habs. |
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dt99999
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim Joined: 11.18.2008
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Or how a black person who never voted until 2008 voted for obama, did so again in 2012 and stopped after that. - bluewaffle
In all fairness? The Republicans suppressed the black vote by removing Ebonics from the ballot. |
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Garfield512
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: I'm a figment of your imagination. Joined: 11.09.2006
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Meh +/- is a small indicator of a players overall game. Had they developped him properly who knows how well his 200 ft game could have been. He never was trusted, so he never learned in certain situations. - mr.peanut
Very true but the Habs were so poor on talent (dismal drafting) that they had to rush him into a role he wasn't ready for. I blame management for completely destroying his confidence.
Unfortunately, we now have what we have ... and keeping him around is not going to fix what damage has been done. Best thing that could happen to him would be to be traded elsewhere.
We need need new management ASAP. |
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mr.peanut
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Location: The Fan of Hockey. Welcome Utah!, QC Joined: 12.18.2011
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Very true but the Habs were so poor on talent (dismal drafting) that they had to rush him into a role he wasn't ready for. I blame management for completely destroying his confidence.
Unfortunately, we now have what we have ... and keeping him around is not going to fix what damage has been done. Best thing that could happen to him would be to be traded elsewhere.
We need need management ASAP. - Garfield512
They were the worst team in the East the year before. Could have sucked the bag in that shortened year and let Galchenyuk play in the ohl another and get another high pick with a poopty team. |
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Mashadar
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Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin! - EK Joined: 08.31.2014
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They were the worst team in the East the year before. Could have sucked the bag in that shortened year and let Galchenyuk play in the ohl another and get another high pick with a poopty team. - mr.peanut
Considering he was injured for most of the year before being drafted... |
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obie
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Oshawa, ON Joined: 09.17.2005
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If he hasn't been able to prove to two coaches that he can be an NHL centerman after 6 years in the league, I doubt he ever will.
Time to cut our losses and get some assets and/or draft picks for him ... he's not what this teams needs. Wingers like him are a dime a dozen.
We'll soon forget about him once he's gone anyway. - Garfield512
This organization is quickly gaining a reputation for mismanaging assets and he's no different, Therrien made all kinds of questionable decisions and Julien, though he came with a certain reputation, has showed the same patterns... All those games Galchenyuk could of gained valuable experience playing against good NHL centers went to David Desharnais and im still left wondering why.. |
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