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RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:07 PM ET
hitting on mid-1sts and late picks?

very hard to keep up in the long-term. but definitely gave beregeron etc. new life.

- Tumbleweed

I'm not saying that it will, but it's tough to say it definitely won't. The second round of 2015 we picked Forsbacka-Karlsson, Brandon Carlo, and Jeremy Lauzon
2016 mid first rounder Charlie McAvoy, late 1st Trent Frederic (hated it at the time looking great now), 2nd Ryan Lindgren, Joona Koppanen, who has played for Finland in the last 2 WJC in the 5th (not saying he's going to light it up but that's a good start for a 5th rouder)

That's very good drafting IMO. Lindgren is going to be a stud.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:08 PM ET
Serious question, since Montreal should consider rebuilding, or re-tooling soon..
What do you think it would take to get Jeff Petry and Philip Danault?

- PatC80


I don't see the Habs moving either.

Danault is one of the very few actual centres et have and overall he's been very good for us.... add to that that he's a local player.....

As for Petry... I'm guessing he could be traded but he's one of the few who's actually good at moving the puck and has decent skating abilities. Despite a HORRIBLE start to his season(god... he was atrocious... I would have kicked him in the nuts if I saw him on the street), he picked up his game and has been very good since December.

Of course a team could always overpay for either player which would make me say yes but I don't see it.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
I don't see the Habs moving either.

Danault is one of the very few actual centres et have and overall he's been very good for us.... add to that that he's a local player.....

As for Petry... I'm guessing he could be traded but he's one of the few who's actually good at moving the puck and has decent skating abilities. Despite a HORRIBLE start to his season(god... he was atrocious... I would have kicked him in the nuts if I saw him on the street), he picked up his game and has been very good since December.

Of course a team could always overpay for either player which would make me say yes but I don't see it.

- Scabeh


We need plekanec as a cheap rental. You can have him back after the playoffs
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 22 @ 2:10 PM ET
I'm not saying that it will, but it's tough to say it definitely won't. The second round of 2015 we picked Forsbacka-Karlsson, Brandon Carlo, and Jeremy Lauzon
2016 mid first rounder Charlie McAvoy, late 1st Trent Frederic (hated it at the time looking great now), 2nd Ryan Lindgren, Joona Koppanen, who has played for Finland in the last 2 WJC in the 5th (not saying he's going to light it up but that's a good start for a 5th rouder)

That's very good drafting IMO. Lindgren is going to be a stud.

- RickJames77


then the blueprint is draft gud. most teams don't. it'll be really hard to replicate boston's model for a re-tool.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:11 PM ET
We need plekanec as a cheap rental. You can have him back after the playoffs
- Aetherial

Scabbies needs a new turtle neck. That is a non-negotiable piece of the deal.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
I don't see the Habs moving either.

Danault is one of the very few actual centres et have and overall he's been very good for us.... add to that that he's a local player.....

As for Petry... I'm guessing he could be traded but he's one of the few who's actually good at moving the puck and has decent skating abilities. Despite a HORRIBLE start to his season(god... he was atrocious... I would have kicked him in the nuts if I saw him on the street), he picked up his game and has been very good since December.

Of course a team could always overpay for either player which would make me say yes but I don't see it.

- Scabeh



Petry, has a really good CF%: 52.9 and plays a ton.. That's the kinda D-man we could use and hopefully, would be cheaper than McDonagh/Karlsson/OEL/Doughty
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:12 PM ET
then the blueprint is draft gud. most teams don't. it'll be really hard to replicate boston's model for a re-tool.
- Tumbleweed

That I agree with. Whomever is making these draft day decisions in Boston better be under lock and key. It seriously seems like more than luck at this point. I mean who knows, but at least ride the hot hand ffs.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:13 PM ET
If they were asking for DeBrusk, Carlo and a 1st how would this be close to getting that deal done? I just don't see it.
- RickJames77

Obviuosly it was too much, so they're gonna have to accept less.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:14 PM ET
Petry, has a really good CF%: 52.9 and plays a ton.. That's the kinda D-man we could use and hopefully, would be cheaper than McDonagh/Karlsson/OEL/Doughty
- PatC80

Didn't he come from Edmonton?

That (frank)ing franchise man
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:14 PM ET
Didn't he come from Edmonton?
- RickJames77



yeah, but we can't hold that against him
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Feb 22 @ 2:15 PM ET
Soft Pass for me. Anything can happen, but anything can also not happen.
- TheMussel


You should be an insider with that type of insight! Or better yet a GM.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:18 PM ET
You should be an insider with that type of insight! Or better yet a GM.
- Aaron_85


I need to keep my identity a secret. Otherwise people would know that my actual name is Jim Benning and that I am in fact a general manager.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Feb 22 @ 2:19 PM ET
I understand McDonagh is decent, but ive never considered him anything special TBH. While he would make us better, I just dont see him as a fit. Better to save the prospects and cap space for more impact players.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 22 @ 2:20 PM ET
I need to keep my identity a secret. Otherwise people would know that my actual name is Jim Benning and that I am in fact a general manager.
- TheMussel


Dim Jim, is that really you?
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Soooo....

Bracco, Liljegren and 2018 1st?

- Atomic Wedgie



Why do teams give the farm? I mean three potential good pieces? I’d rather get another 3-4 or 5-6 dman and wait till off season for any free agent signings. Liljegren maybe the one who comes up in future to replace gardiner and as far as giving up a first round pick why not trade up in the draft to get into top 10 or top 12 and draft a good piece rather than giving up all these good pieces. I mean Scott Gomez to Montreal to get McDonagh from Montreal (a first round pick? ) and now they want three pieces to go to rags and Gorton in ny? Ain’t gonna happen. If it does I won’t be happy.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Dim Jim, is that really you?
- Tumbleweed

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
I need to keep my identity a secret. Otherwise people would know that my actual name is Jim Benning and that I am in fact a general manager.
- TheMussel

Wow. Good to have you on board.

Hey, do you mind making change for me - I need smaller bills for the snack machine.

Do you have two tens for a five?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:21 PM ET
Petry, has a really good CF%: 52.9 and plays a ton.. That's the kinda D-man we could use and hopefully, would be cheaper than McDonagh/Karlsson/OEL/Doughty
- PatC80


Definetely cheaper than those guys.

But if he's leaving, it's because a young defenseman in the same "style" as Petry that could replace him soon is coming the other way.

Oh what am I saying, that's a smart thing to ask for.... Bergevin would never do this.

SEND US HAINSEY AND LUPUL!
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 22 @ 2:23 PM ET

- TheMussel


once a leaf, always a leaf.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:24 PM ET
Wow. Good to have you on board.

Hey, do you mind making change for me - I need smaller bills for the snack machine.

Do you have two tens for a five?

- Atomic Wedgie


Add an overpaid slow stay at home d-man with the brains of a lizard, I'll throw in Elias Petterson, and we'll call it a deal.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 2:25 PM ET
Why do teams give the farm? I mean three potential good pieces? I’d rather get another 3-4 or 5-6 dman and wait till off season for any free agent signings. Liljegren maybe the one who comes up in future to replace gardiner and as far as giving up a first round pick why not trade up in the draft to get into top 10 or top 12 and draft a good piece rather than giving up all these good pieces. I mean Scott Gomez to Montreal to get McDonagh from Montreal (a first round pick? ) and now they want three pieces to go to rags and Gorton in ny? Ain’t gonna happen. If it does I won’t be happy.
- BreathLeafs2015

Bracco is garbage. 2 possible NHL players for 1 bonafide top 4 dman who is also a captain. That's not giving the farm at all.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:27 PM ET
Bracco is garbage. 2 possible NHL players for 1 bonafide top 4 dman who is also a captain. That's not giving the farm at all.
- drexel

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Feb 22 @ 2:33 PM ET
Why do teams give the farm? I mean three potential good pieces? I’d rather get another 3-4 or 5-6 dman and wait till off season for any free agent signings. Liljegren maybe the one who comes up in future to replace gardiner and as far as giving up a first round pick why not trade up in the draft to get into top 10 or top 12 and draft a good piece rather than giving up all these good pieces. I mean Scott Gomez to Montreal to get McDonagh from Montreal (a first round pick? ) and now they want three pieces to go to rags and Gorton in ny? Ain’t gonna happen. If it does I won’t be happy.
- BreathLeafs2015

To be perfectly honest, I don't have a real opinion on McDonagh - so I'm going off of what others say.

And people who I respect say he's a top pairing guy, who also brings a lot of leadership to the table (he's the frickin' captain). And he has also demonstrated great playoff poise.

On paper, that's a great fit for the Leafs this year.

Please keep in mind my offer was not serious - I think it's too low for the Rangers to bite. But OK, here goes:

- I don't think Bracco is ever going to be a top-6 guy in the NHL. So I simply don't care if we lose him or not.
- I'm hoping our 1st this year is bottom 10 - so hurts a little, but not a lot.
- Liljegren (or however the frank you spell it) is a mystery. But it's a risk I would be willing to take. I don't think he will be a true impact player for another 4 years - so I'd rather have McDonagh now, and hope to re-sign him in 18 months.

At the end of the day, this is all a big waste of time - Lou will do what Lou does, probably without even checking this board before making his changes.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 22 @ 2:34 PM ET

- markmark

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:35 PM ET
To be perfectly honest, I don't have a real opinion on McDonagh - so I'm going off of what others say.

And people who I respect say he's a top pairing guy, who also brings a lot of leadership to the table (he's the frickin' captain). And he has also demonstrated great playoff poise.

On paper, that's a great fit for the Leafs this year.

Please keep in mind my offer was not serious - I think it's too low for the Rangers to bite. But OK, here goes:

- I don't think Bracco is ever going to be a top-6 guy in the NHL. So I simply don't care if we lose him or not.
- I'm hoping our 1st this year is bottom 10 - so hurts a little, but not a lot.
- Liljegren (or however the frank you spell it) is a mystery. But it's a risk I would be willing to take. I don't think he will be a true impact player for another 4 years - so I'd rather have McDonagh now, and hope to re-sign him in 18 months.

At the end of the day, this is all a big waste of time - Lou will do what Lou does, probably without even checking this board before making his changes.

- Atomic Wedgie


I love you too buddy.
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