Just finished watching the game from last night. Wow, what a SO goal by the cat!
- tvetter

Best snipe of all the shooters.

6628 - Heard from a UC (not a Hawks) source who generally has good sources themselves - who says that Q will be out. If that’s the case, who do you get who is a better coach? Seriously if you get rid of Q you better have a darn good replacement. The casual fan who shouts “Q!” when he’s introduced at the start of the game or who only casually pays attention to a game here or there will need to see that’s the guy they pick is an improvement. Thinking from a marketing perspective.

As a fan and a season ticket holder who more than casually pays attention I would want to know that the next guy was a planned as good or better alternative than the one you let go. Don’t fire someone just to say you did something without a good replacement.

Who would you put in there? (Value your opinion and looking for what the solution might be)

Also same question about Stan - if you get rid of him, who do you put in that’s better? Or can be marketed as such?
- Marlowe

I have preferred Dineen since 2014 when he coached the Womens Canadian Olympic squad. The USA was kicking their ass all year and in december the coach left the team and Dineen was asked to be the emergency coach. He didn't have much time, but I said he had just enough time to see what he had and what he was up against and would make the necessary adjustments. I knew Katey Stone, the US coach, was an idiot and I made a bet that the US would lose the gold because of Dineen being a lot smarter than Stone. Turns out I was right. I'd like to see what Dineen, without any interference (and there is a ton of it), could do with this team in transition as well as interact with SB or whatever GM in a productive manner. No more mind (frank)ing and powerplays behing the scenes.

And just because I'm not a Q guy doesn't mean I don't respect his efforts in the three cups he had a huge part in. But I've seen other coaches figure him out, make adjustments, and his team changes nothing system wise. How often do you see a hawk catch a pass and there's one, two, sometimes even three opposing players right in the face of the the guy who got the pass. Not going to win consistently like that. And in my opinion that's on the system/philosophy of the head coach.

Looks like Boston clearing cap space, for a potential trade.
- walleyeb1

Not a ton though, $792k

Best snipe of all the shooters.
- 67hawks

If that kid ever figures out how to be as strong on his skates as Martin St. Louis or Dino look out. He won't need near as much help as he does now to light it up.

Duclair/Hinostroza + Hartman for one of the Canes young Dmen (preferably Slavin or Hanafin)
Anisimov to pretty much any East Playoff Team for a 1st OR NHL Ready D prospect
- EnzoD

Like both of those deals. Prefer to retain Hinostroza out of those wingers, so maybe something like Duclair + Hartman for one of the Canes young defenders.

Then Anisimov for Sanheim with whatever reasonable fillers needed on either side if 1 for 1 isn't enough.

Ceci is an attractive target for a young blueliner so maybe consider a deal with the Senators.

Tomas Jurco circa 2018

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— theScore (@theScore) February 22, 2018

- DarthKane

If we cannot get anything (which is quite likely) for Jurco at the TDL, I say we waive him. If he gets claimed then no loss. If not, he can help Rockford get to the playoffs. He has offered nothing and looks like a bust at this stage in his career.

After the TDL we should have 4 forward spots open -Jurco, Sharp, Bouma, Wingels positions

If we cannot get anything (which is quite likely) for Jurco at the TDL, I say we waive him. If he gets claimed then no loss. If not, he can help Rockford get to the playoffs. He has offered nothing and looks like a bust at this stage in his career.

After the TDL we should have 4 forward spots open -Jurco, Sharp, Bouma, Wingels positions
- 67hawks

Mr. Sikura come on down....

If we cannot get anything (which is quite likely) for Jurco at the TDL, I say we waive him. If he gets claimed then no loss. If not, he can help Rockford get to the playoffs. He has offered nothing and looks like a bust at this stage in his career.

After the TDL we should have 4 forward spots open -Jurco, Sharp, Bouma, Wingels positions
- 67hawks

If stans lazy ass can even move that many players!

Like both of those deals. Prefer to retain Hinostroza out of those wingers, so maybe something like Duclair + Hartman for one of the Canes young defenders.

Then Anisimov for Sanheim with whatever reasonable fillers needed on either side if 1 for 1 isn't enough.

Ceci is an attractive target for a young blueliner so maybe consider a deal with the Senators.
- AEL_Fox

Duclair and Hartman for one of their young Dmen? You'd have to catch Ron Francis on a bad drunk to get him to agree to that.

Start thinking Schmaltz at the very least for a good defenceman.

bowman has been general manager for almost eight years and is a disaster. what is left of the best parts of this team are tallon's doing. during bowman's tenure he has not added a top two defenseman, has added one second pairing defenseman (oduya), and has extended terrible contracts that necessitated losing terravainen, shaw, danault, and panarin.

does anyone really believe quenneville has the patience to parent a rebuild? it is time for this dysfunctional system to end. hire a general manager and let him hire his coach. it is obvious bowman and quenneville have different agendas and the top drawer, in their prime core players aren't there any more in terms of quantity or ability to overcome the inability for bowman and quenneville to be on the same page together. sweep it all clean.

Duclair and Hartman for one of their young Dmen? You'd have to catch Ron Francis on a bad drunk to get him to agree to that.

Start thinking Schmaltz at the very least for a good defenceman.
- RickJ

Schmaltz is a 2C at 20 years old, so maybe toss in a pick or Forsling but no way do I move 8 unless it is for a real impact player on Defense that is young and cheap.

Duclair and Hartman for one of their young Dmen? You'd have to catch Ron Francis on a bad drunk to get him to agree to that.

Start thinking Schmaltz at the very least for a good defenceman.
- RickJ

I'll go to Binny's and pay Ronnie a visit.

Q will never be reassigned within the organization, because he wouldn't agree to it. I'd put money on that even if they offered that position, he'd turn it down to continue coaching as I'm sure he may try to make a run at over 1000 all time wins. He also is getting up there in age, and if he wants to continue coaching, he doesn't have many prime years left (he's nearly 60, so what maybe 5-10 years left?) Plus, he'd get snapped up in a second by the majority of teams in the league looking for a coach.

On the Dineen front, you have to remember he's a Q guy. I doubt Bowman would promote him and would instead look to put "his guy" in place. Bowman may look to a more developmental coach given how the team has taken a turn to be much younger this season. I think he knows the window is all but shut on being a contender, and he's going to really have to think long and hard about what to do with the core as they continue to age (Toews, Kane, Crawford, Keith, Seabrook) if he indeed looks to rebuild on the fly. And FYI, I'm not calling Seabrook "core" because he's good, but because of his longevity on the team and his contract.

Schmaltz is a 2C at 20 years old, so maybe toss in a pick or Forsling but no way do I move 8 unless it is for a real impact player on Defense that is young and cheap.
- EnzoD

Why would Carolina trade a top young defenceman, potentially elite, on their roster for something that doesn't solve their biggest need - a good young center?

They don't need Forsling or the pick, they need somebody in the pivot because they can't score.

So keep Schmaltz because he's the best young center we have and develop the defencemen in the system.

Why would Carolina trade a top young defenceman, potentially elite, on their roster for something that doesn't solve their biggest need - a good young center?

They don't need Forsling or the pick, they need somebody in the pivot because they can't score.

So keep Schmaltz because he's the best young center we have and develop the defencemen in the system.
- RickJ

Do they need centers? They have Staal, Rask and Lindholm down the middle who are all responsible two-way guys. They lack finishing ability outside of Skinner so maybe the high scoring stretch of Vinny, or the hype of Duclair's potential intrigues them enough. Probably not enough, but I don't think Schmaltz should be traded unless its big time stud defenseman coming back. Slavin is solid but brings no offense and, as some have noted here, Hanafin has been playing 3rd pair much of the season and hasn't proven anything yet.

I'll go to Binny's and pay Ronnie a visit.
- AEL_Fox

You'd impress Mr. Francis with a bottle of Balvenie 50 year old. With that in hand, he might talk trade with you.

I don't think the Hawks are finished. Ideas on message boards sometimes take on a life of their own whether they have a lot of validity or not. Example, remember when this board was fixated on getting rid of Kane for imaginary offences? This board in particular likes to run with fake news and then build it up. The absence of guys like Hossa, Panarin, Hammer, Crawford and Darling would be a major negative for any team. Toews is really not that bad and odds are he will adjust and improve. Saad is in a slump that will run it's course. Keith is still performing at a star level. Then there is the new core, ABD , Schmaltz and Hinostroza providing a big ray of sunshine right now and for the immediate future. Things could be a lot worse. The team needs to fix the management first then the defense and goal tending and these things will get fixed rest assured.
- Savoy

Agreed except Seabrook needs to go, you conveniently left him out!

Do they need centers? They have Staal, Rask and Lindholm down the middle who are all responsible two-way guys. They lack finishing ability outside of Skinner so maybe the high scoring stretch of Vinny, or the hype of Duclair's potential intrigues them enough. Probably not enough, but I don't think Schmaltz should be traded unless its big time stud defenseman coming back. Slavin is solid but brings no offense and, as some have noted here, Hanafin has been playing 3rd pair much of the season and hasn't proven anything yet.
- EnzoD

Mentioning Duclair is laughable Edzo. Everywhere except in Chicago, the whole league knows he is a minor leaguer with zip trade value other than maybe a 7th rounder. Dumping Panik's contract was the only motivation for that deal. How's that working out?

I'm not advocating trading Schmaltz, I like him as a young developing player with great potential. Growing pains, got to live with them. Keep him. But dumping excrement like Duclair, Jurco, Vinny, Kero, Bouma, Wingels and a bunch of these other low end underperforming forwards doesn't get attract much in return.

Mentioning Duclair is laughable Edzo. Everywhere except in Chicago, the whole league knows he is a minor leaguer with zip trade value other than maybe a 7th rounder. Dumping Panik's contract was the only motivation for that deal. How's that working out?

I'm not advocating trading Schmaltz, I like him as a young developing player with great potential. Growing pains, got to live with them. Keep him. But dumping excrement like Duclair, Jurco, Vinny, Kero, Bouma, Wingels and a bunch of these other low end underperforming forwards doesn't get attract much in return.
- RickJ

That's fair but I still think there is some hype for Duclair based on reactions to the trade. I love that Stan gets credit for dumping a bad contract.....that he gave out less than 12 months ago LOL. Also, my actual name is Enzo, I'm not trying to play on Eddie Olcyzk's nickname with my username

That's fair but I still think there is some hype for Duclair based on reactions to the trade. I love that Stan gets credit for dumping a bad contract.....that he gave out less than 12 months ago LOL. Also, my actual name is Enzo, I'm not trying to play on Eddie Olcyzk's nickname with my username
- EnzoD

Italiano?

That's fair but I still think there is some hype for Duclair based on reactions to the trade. I love that Stan gets credit for dumping a bad contract.....that he gave out less than 12 months ago LOL. Also, my actual name is Enzo, I'm not trying to play on Eddie Olcyzk's nickname with my username
- EnzoD

Apologies for spelling error. Was up very late watching the Women's Gold Medal game. Congrats to the Americans, better team prevailed ultimately. Too bad it had to be a shootout, I believe in playing til you f'kn die on the ice - its the Canadian way.

Neither Rick Nash nor Michael Grabner will play for #NYR  tonight. Team closing in deals, so right now, this is just precautionary. Lettieri and Carey will be in.

Q will never be reassigned within the organization, because he wouldn't agree to it. I'd put money on that even if they offered that position, he'd turn it down to continue coaching as I'm sure he may try to make a run at over 1000 all time wins. He also is getting up there in age, and if he wants to continue coaching, he doesn't have many prime years left (he's nearly 60, so what maybe 5-10 years left?) Plus, he'd get snapped up in a second by the majority of teams in the league looking for a coach.

On the Dineen front, you have to remember he's a Q guy. I doubt Bowman would promote him and would instead look to put "his guy" in place. Bowman may look to a more developmental coach given how the team has taken a turn to be much younger this season. I think he knows the window is all but shut on being a contender, and he's going to really have to think long and hard about what to do with the core as they continue to age (Toews, Kane, Crawford, Keith, Seabrook) if he indeed looks to rebuild on the fly. And FYI, I'm not calling Seabrook "core" because he's good, but because of his longevity on the team and his contract.
- Budi1782

Yeah, if Q is let go, I don't see him accepting a reassignment out of pride and maybe even bitterness. As others have noted, other teams would line up to ask him if he'd be willing to coach for them so I don't see him unemployed very long. If he is not coaching next year, my guess is because it's his choice to sit out a season.

I agree, if Dineen was a Q selection for an assistant coach, Bowman likely wouldn't consider him as a candidate to be next head coach. Enter Granato.

You'd impress Mr. Francis with a bottle of Balvenie 50 year old. With that in hand, he might talk trade with you.
- RickJ

Wow, that's very specific! If you know the drink of choice for other GMs, let me know and I'll add them to the cart and expand the road trip to help pitch other trade offers.

Apologies for spelling error. Was up very late watching the Women's Gold Medal game. Congrats to the Americans, better team prevailed ultimately. Too bad it had to be a shootout, I believe in playing til you f'kn die on the ice - its the Canadian way.
- RickJ

All good! Agreed on championships being decided in the shootout. USA Men lost in a shootout the night before and the 20 yr old US goalie was outstanding. Was a very frustrating game to watch as the Zebra's inconsistencies when calling body checks is laughable. Just let the girls hit each other already. They have the same equipment as the men and are smaller, so injuries shouldn't be at a high level. The girls are basically throwing body checks out there anyway...sometimes it's a penalty and sometimes it's not. How about that shoulder to the dome from Poulin in front of the net??