You're right, the line blender in hyperdrive, guys playing up and down the lineup and not in their natural positions, PP of 2017-18, resembling PP of 2009-2010, the team collectively taking first periods (sometimes whole games) off...all classic signs and symptoms of a team quitting on the GM.

I recognize your disdain for Bowman which is what it is, but change happens in all walks of life. When the coach can't successfully implement a new system, game plan, or whatever to change with the times, maybe he is part of the problem too.
- HawkintheD

The Q apologists never attribute any responsibility to him no matter how poor his coaching is. The crazy has been absolutely painful to watch this season.

Tommyhawk can be a pain in the ass. They have had multiple people behing the mask over the years. About 20 years ago at the UC the Tommyhawk used to mime the hell out of me. See me in the concourse and get in my face with a bunch of stupid poop. The more I told him to go away the more he persisted. And the more he would look for me and do it again. I was a bit busy during the games but my wife had my 10 year old son there and we were meeting up between the periods. I told him he had the green light to fire on Tommyhawk if he got in my face. Sure enough here comes the mascot. My kid looks at me and I nod my head. And my kid smoked him right in the sack. Had to be a hundred people laughing as Tommyhawk limped away all bent over. Never happened again.
- 6628

Right in the Sack - Priceless.

I doubt Dineen is ever the Hawks Head Coach. If Q goes, they will want not want a Q loyalist behind the bench.

I could see Dave Tippett being a candidate.

"Ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to introduce to you the new head coach of the NHL Seattle franchise".
- Rota's Rooter

Never happen.

Q had decent success with St. Louis and Colorado, but he had his outstanding success after taking over a team in Chicago that was loaded with talent.

Now, I'm not saying at all that any coach could have done what he did - it's as difficult to win when you're supposed to (and to keep the stars playing together as a team) as it is to develop a team into a contender - but they are two different skills - and I'm not sure that Q has the temperament and traits (or the inclination) to build a team.

The Blackhawks today have really only one player playing as a superstar - and there are no sure future HOFers in the wings. I don't think we're going to see Toews, Seabrook, Keith, Hossa come back to championship form ever again. Like it or not - move the remaining core out or not - the current situation is a rebuild and requires identifying, procuring, and developing lots of young talent.

I've come to the conclusion that Q should be moved out not because he has become a bad coach - he hasn't, he is still a quality coach - but because his coaching skills are not what will be necessary to develop the next contender here.

Seattle? No - but maybe a good young team with already developed talent that needs a coach that can put it all together.

But he's getting up there in years, so maybe he wants to wind his career down in a kush position making big cash.
- JRoenick97

He is 59 and looks very fit. He will not want to go out a loser.

JJ--While I understand people wanting a "fresh take," I still maintain my stance that Q is not the problem.

You can't fire the players, so the coach usually takes the heat.


- Hank3Henshaw

Q has basically been totally out of control and nonsensical this year. The team has been in shambles the entire year. A complete mess the entire year. However, not Q’s fault? Are you kidding?

If we were adults, we wouldn't be spending so much time on a hockey board.


- StLBravesFan

Not sure why Bowman stays and Q should go? What really good trade has Bowman made? You gotta go back to Leddy for Barker as a bonfide steal, the acquisition of Oduya was decent, but most of his trades have been garbage. Deadline deals for Ladd/Vermette take no skill by just giving up a #1 and top prospect for impending UFA. And as much as I liked the off season trades those have not worked out either, neither have reunion tours, no trade clauses, overpaying guys, tossing away good young players for trash, or the draft for the most part.

Does Stan now have immunity because he's the son of Scotty? Q has been horrible this year in my view, but Bowman has his hands all over this crap too. I think a fresh start for both Stan and Q should be in order, but that's probably too bold.

Q for GM! (Imagine those trades...or lack of trades due to loyalty to players)

Q for GM! (Imagine those trades...or lack of trades due to loyalty to players)
- resqmed99

Yes -out young'uns -in Hammer

Hossa to replace Q!

You're right, the line blender in hyperdrive, guys playing up and down the lineup and not in their natural positions, PP of 2017-18, resembling PP of 2009-2010, the team collectively taking first periods (sometimes whole games) off...all classic signs and symptoms of a team quitting on the GM.

I recognize your disdain for Bowman which is what it is, but change happens in all walks of life. When the coach can't successfully implement a new system, game plan, or whatever to change with the times, maybe he is part of the problem too.
- HawkintheD

Coach Q up should be gone right after the last game . Kicking him upstairs so he can see what Stan deals with on a daily bases might work .

Coach Q up should be gone right after the last game . Kicking him upstairs so he can see what Stan deals with on a daily bases might work .
- oldduffman

Poor widdle Stan....he just has to deal with so much, I guess he got an immunity clause at the same time he handed out all the No Trade Clause to players making max salary.

Never happen.

Q had decent success with St. Louis and Colorado, but he had his outstanding success after taking over a team in Chicago that was loaded with talent.

Now, I'm not saying at all that any coach could have done what he did - it's as difficult to win when you're supposed to (and to keep the stars playing together as a team) as it is to develop a team into a contender - but they are two different skills - and I'm not sure that Q has the temperament and traits (or the inclination) to build a team.

The Blackhawks today have really only one player playing as a superstar - and there are no sure future HOFers in the wings. I don't think we're going to see Toews, Seabrook, Keith, Hossa come back to championship form ever again. Like it or not - move the remaining core out or not - the current situation is a rebuild and requires identifying, procuring, and developing lots of young talent.

I've come to the conclusion that Q should be moved out not because he has become a bad coach - he hasn't, he is still a quality coach - but because his coaching skills are not what will be necessary to develop the next contender here.

Seattle? No - but maybe a good young team with already developed talent that needs a coach that can put it all together.
- StLBravesFan

Don't kid yourself. He's a 3 time cup winner. Second winningest coach in NHL history. Seattle would hand him the keys to the house immediately.

My guess is that BOTH are there to start next year. if we see this same Hawk trend through 20-30 games next year, THEN you will see "Q" being the man out....

Just my guess.....

Not sure why Bowman stays and Q should go? What really good trade has Bowman made? You gotta go back to Leddy for Barker as a bonfide steal, the acquisition of Oduya was decent, but most of his trades have been garbage. Deadline deals for Ladd/Vermette take no skill by just giving up a #1 and top prospect for impending UFA. And as much as I liked the off season trades those have not worked out either, neither have reunion tours, no trade clauses, overpaying guys, tossing away good young players for trash, or the draft for the most part.

Does Stan now have immunity because he's the son of Scotty? Q has been horrible this year in my view, but Bowman has his hands all over this crap too. I think a fresh start for both Stan and Q should be in order, but that's probably too bold.
- kwolf68

This is kinda my thought too. Why does the guy who built the team get to stay but the Coach takes the blame? It doesn't make much sense to me. You can only play with the cards your dealt. Not to mention the backlash the Hawks will receive if Coach Q is gone next year. Most fans LOVE him for what he's done for us. Fans have already been tuning in less and less as this team has had their first off year in almost a decade (by off I mean an actual losing record). Firing or "Reassigning" Q could be a PR nightmare for a team that's already back to being on the low end of the totum pole in this city when it comes to sports. Don't get me wrong, Q has been stubborn as F**K when it comes to playing certain guys and mixing the lines just about every other game , but I don't think it's a matter of his voice not being heard as some people have suggested. I think this team is hurting lacking in talent and that's the GMs fault. We've all talked about how many bad trades Stan has made over the past few years that are now coming back to haunt this team. Not to mention the drafting has been very poor as well which makes those bad trades look that much worse. If Stan goes (and his dad with him) most fans wouldn't bat an eye, but if Q goes there will be a lot of people upset.

Don't kid yourself. He's a 3 time cup winner. Second winningest coach in NHL history. Seattle would hand him the keys to the house immediately.
- JRoenick97

My point is that I'm not sure he would take it - VGK aside, and even with a favorable expansion draft, expansion teams are notoriously bad for several years and need to transition to youth before making any kind of mark on the league - would Q really want to go through that process?

Or (if he would want to keep coaching) would he rather find a position with a team closer to being a contender?

Hossa to replace Q!
- Flyer19

not a bad idea...
start him off as an assistant coach maybe?

My point is that I'm not sure he would take it - VGK aside, and even with a favorable expansion draft, expansion teams are notoriously bad for several years and need to transition to youth before making any kind of mark on the league - would Q really want to go through that process?

Or (if he would want to keep coaching) would he rather find a position with a team closer to being a contender?
- StLBravesFan

Expansion teams sucked in the past because they literally got the worst available players from teams. The expansion draft has changed quite a bit and allow the teams to do well now. If Q wants to run his own systems form scratch, why wouldn't he take the Seattle deal?

Q has basically been totally out of control and nonsensical this year. The team has been in shambles the entire year. A complete mess the entire year. However, not Q’s fault? Are you kidding?
- Z3Hawk

No. I'm not kidding.

What has Q done differently that warrants him as "out of control and nonsensical" in your book?

Blending lines? He's always done that.

Q is the same stoic/no BS guy he's always been. It's not his fault guys like Toews, Seabrook, etc. aren't playing well. It's also not his fault that the guys his GM has brought in haven't panned out.

I get people being frustrated. I just don't see how why it's all on him and not on (the majority) of the players and front office combined.

Blaming the coach to me is just the easy thing to.

Can't get past today without asking…..where were you on Feb.22, 1980?

When this happened……….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYscemhnf88



Greatest moment in sports……………period.

This is kinda my thought too. Why does the guy who built the team get to stay but the Coach takes the blame? It doesn't make much sense to me. You can only play with the cards your dealt. Not to mention the backlash the Hawks will receive if Coach Q is gone next year. Most fans LOVE him for what he's done for us. Fans have already been tuning in less and less as this team has had their first off year in almost a decade (by off I mean an actual losing record). Firing or "Reassigning" Q could be a PR nightmare for a team that's already back to being on the low end of the totum pole in this city when it comes to sports. Don't get me wrong, Q has been stubborn as F**K when it comes to playing certain guys and mixing the lines just about every other game , but I don't think it's a matter of his voice not being heard as some people have suggested. I think this team is hurting lacking in talent and that's the GMs fault. We've all talked about how many bad trades Stan has made over the past few years that are now coming back to haunt this team. Not to mention the drafting has been very poor as well which makes those bad trades look that much worse. If Stan goes (and his dad with him) most fans wouldn't bat an eye, but if Q goes there will be a lot of people upset.
- Savetheembers33

Because that is an opinion. The case could be made that Stan has gotten the team younger and faster like the rest of the league and Q didn't adjust his systems to account for that. I don't necessarily buy that, but it's all perspective on what the management thinks happened.

If this organization was so impatient they would of fired Q after the 2012 season.

Tallon made a huge mess, hired Savard, please to compare the 2 are apples and oranges. Bowman and Q have a clue.

And anyone here thinking Rocky wasn't the catalyst to handing out the contracts to 88, 19 and 7 are fooling themselves as well as all the NTC

I believe Q will get to decide his fate and Bowman will be given until the next CBA to build the team again

No. I'm not kidding.

What has Q done differently that warrants him as "out of control and nonsensical" in your book?

Blending lines? He's always done that.

Q is the same stoic/no BS guy he's always been. It's not his fault guys like Toews, Seabrook, etc. aren't playing well. It's also not his fault that the guys his GM has brought in haven't panned out.

I get people being frustrated. I just don't see how why it's all on him and not on (the majority) of the players and front office combined.

Blaming the coach to me is just the easy thing to.
- Hank3Henshaw

Not motivating your players is on the coach as well. Not using your new players properly is on the coach. There's arguments to both sides, but it's really all on what management thinks is happening. I like Q, for the record.

Can't get past today without asking…..where were you on Feb.22, 1980?

When this happened……….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYscemhnf88



Greatest moment in sports……………period.
- BobP.

I was adjusting my rabbit ears on the TV tying to get a better signal...