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Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:17 PM ET
I love Grabner but I’d never trade a first round pick to get him. Not sure why so many of you think he’s worth that. This is a pretty good deal. The issue is it being the friggin Devils. 2nd round pick whether it’s 35 or 45 or whatever really doesn’t matter
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 22 @ 11:17 PM ET
Rangers fans think they didn't get enough for a high scoring winger. Devils fans think they gave up too much for a bottom six rental in a year where they're by no means contenders.

If neither fan base loves the trade, it's probably a fair trade.

It'll all be okay when you guys get Kovy.
NYRangers1124
New York Rangers
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Joined: 07.24.2008

Feb 22 @ 11:17 PM ET
He’s a question mark for sure but the deal is for the Pick. The prospect in this case is a throw in...organization depth move
- Blueshirts16

said the same for the hagelin deal and look how that worked out.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:17 PM ET
Sometimes in a trade there is not a winner or loser. It could be even. I think people are annoyed we didn’t outright fleece them. Overall we didn’t get fleeced either
- nyrangers2

No, there is always a winner and loser.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:18 PM ET
He’s a question mark for sure but the deal is for the Pick. The prospect in this case is a throw in...organization depth move
- Blueshirts16

Rykov is pretty promising. Dont discount him so fast
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:18 PM ET
The problem is as fans we set our own standards as to what we think a player is worth. We are biased making those standerds. It don’t work that way. Bottom line is they got an extra pick and semi decent prospect for a guy they signed off the scrap heap basically and can sign again if they so choose
- Slimtj100


There is truth to that. He just better not (frank)ing help the Devils win anything. Lol
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:18 PM ET
So for the past two weeks all we heard was he wants to resign with the Rangers but 20 games in a Devil's uniform is going to undo all that? Come on Man!!!
- MiloslavHorava


You can’t reason with these people, I try lol
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 22 @ 11:18 PM ET
So for the past two weeks all we heard was he wants to resign with the Rangers but 20 games in a Devil's uniform is going to undo all that? Come on Man!!!
- MiloslavHorava


I feel like people always overrate the whole "trade him and resign him in the offseason" thing. How often does that actually happen? Though in this case for Grabner at least he doesn't have to move
dman78
New York Rangers
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 12.28.2011

Feb 22 @ 11:19 PM ET
Sometimes in a trade there is not a winner or loser. It could be even. I think people are annoyed we didn’t outright fleece them. Overall we didn’t get fleeced either
- nyrangers2

Maybe people are thinking that as long as Hank is here this team won't go full rebuild as has been the assumption that they're looking for close to NHL ready prospects so when they get a guy who may never set foot in country it might cause some uneasiness with fanbase
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:19 PM ET
I feel like people always overrate the whole "trade him and resign him in the offseason" thing. How often does that actually happen? Though in this case for Grabner at least he doesn't have to move
- MannySilvers


It doesn’t happen much.
Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:19 PM ET
said the same for the hagelin deal and look how that worked out.
- NYRangers1124


True. Gropp is looking like he isn’t gonna make it. I think that’s a different scenario though. They weren’t dealing from strength because they had to move Hagelin over money. I’m okay with this deal
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:20 PM ET
Rykov is pretty promising. Dont discount him so fast
- willschulme

It's more the possibility of him never coming to NA
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:20 PM ET
There is truth to that. He just better not (frank)ing help the Devils win anything. Lol
- Pete V

The Devils thing is weird, and scary, I’ll say that haha. You have to have the belief the first wasn’t there nor was it going to be in a day or two. It’s the only rationale since they finally sat him tonight, it makes sense
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 09.30.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:20 PM ET
Who’s next?
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:20 PM ET
Maybe people are thinking that as long as Hank is here this team won't go full rebuild as has been the assumption that they're looking for close to NHL ready prospects so when they get a guy who may never set foot in country it might cause some uneasiness with fanbase
- dman78


There is a lot of uncertainty with KHL guys. That’s definitely a part of my reservation.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:20 PM ET
Rykov is pretty promising. Dont discount him so fast
- willschulme

The issue is the question of whether or not he leaves Russia.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:21 PM ET
Who’s next?
- Bean_Dip

Nash.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:21 PM ET
Who’s next?
- Bean_Dip


Gotta be Nash.
dman78
New York Rangers
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 12.28.2011

Feb 22 @ 11:21 PM ET
Rykov is pretty promising. Dont discount him so fast
- willschulme

To be honest dont know alot about but There seems to be alot of doubt if he will ever come here to play
Blueshirts16
New York Rangers
Location: Rangers Sweep Icelanders...go , NY
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
Rykov is pretty promising. Dont discount him so fast
- willschulme


I wasn’t. Just pointing out that if he was to stay in the K (which I believe is why he was involved in this deal) that the deal was mainly for the pick. That said, if he does come over, it’s gravy
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Feb 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
It's more the possibility of him never coming to NA
- nyrangers9479


And you know this how?
Twitter comentary?
Nobody even knew his name 1 hour ago, lets be real here
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Feb 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
So for the past two weeks all we heard was he wants to resign with the Rangers but 20 games in a Devil's uniform is going to undo all that? Come on Man!!!
- MiloslavHorava

What is stated publicly isn't always reality. Although I'm the eternal pessimist, there is a good chance he resigns here since I don't see the Devils making a deep run. I'm 90% sure the last meeting between Grabs and Gorts was a handshake contract for next year, but you never know.
Man I hate the business side of hockey.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
To be honest dont know alot about but There seems to be alot of doubt if he will ever come here to play
- dman78

I was always of the belief that he would eventually
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Feb 22 @ 11:22 PM ET
Real rebuild= more certainty in prospects

Half assed rebuild= more uncertainty

Look at the half assed prospects we got for the '04 sell off, Jarkko Immonen and Josef Balej.....this is what worried me, this is why I'm flipping out cause it's just never gonna be a home run again with this organization
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:24 PM ET
To be honest dont know alot about but There seems to be alot of doubt if he will ever come here to play
- dman78

He's a good player. He'd a #4 d-man if ever panned out in the NHL. I just never knew that it was such a question mark that he would ever leave Russia.
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