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jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:02 PM ET
"If you want I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed. I do have some spare time."
- mdw7413


Tommy want wingy
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:02 PM ET
Dirty cat?
- mdw7413


yep
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
exactly why I think there is no shot at Marner or Nylander
- mrn22

No shot at the deadline. In the offseason? Different story. I could see TOR moving one of them if their defense gets absolutely exposed in the playoffs and they can't ignore it going into next season. But I think the price for McDonagh will be too high for contenders to afford him during the season. It's entirely possible a fringe team or a non-playoff team pays what they want, but his NTC list will eliminate some of the basement dwellers from the list of potential trade partners.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
yep
- jimbo83


I would think this is more of a TJ thing. Some people carry around tick-tacks, TJ carries around penicillin
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:04 PM ET
No shot at the deadline. In the offseason? Different story. I could see TOR moving one of them if their defense gets absolutely exposed in the playoffs and they can't ignore it going into next season. But I think the price for McDonagh will be too high for contenders to afford him during the season. It's entirely possible a fringe team or a non-playoff team pays what they want, but his NTC list will eliminate some of the basement dwellers from the list of potential trade partners.
- eichiefs9


Here is a question:

Do the Leafs have a better shot at the Cup with Marner or McDonagh on their roster this year? I am not suggesting one particular answer is right.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
I had one of those, (frank)ing antibotics for like 3 weeks
- jimbo83

nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
I don't think Nylander is going anywhere. I think there is a shot at Marner, but not a good one.
- Pete V

Why Marner and not Nylander? They have identical goals/assists/points this year and Marner is a year younger.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:05 PM ET
hell of a nice guy
- jimbo83

Hey Tom Burton đź‘‹
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
Why Marner and not Nylander? They have identical goals/assists/points this year and Marner is a year younger.
- nyrangers9479


Just think that they wouldn't want to mess with the chemistry that Nylander and Matthews have going. I am not even saying one player is better than the other.
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
Why Marner and not Nylander? They have identical goals/assists/points this year and Marner is a year younger.
- nyrangers9479


what's even crazier is they both had 61 points last year
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:07 PM ET
Here is a question:

Do the Leafs have a better shot at the Cup with Marner or McDonagh on their roster this year? I am not suggesting one particular answer is right.

- Pete V

Probably McDonagh, if you strip away all the external factors. But age, RFA years, McDonagh being a UFA after next year, etc... makes that deal all the more complicated for the Leafs.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:08 PM ET
Joe Smith, TB Times:
What Steve Yzerman won't be doing is dealing from his current lineup, so the likes of Mikhail Sergachev and Brayden Point won't be going anywhere. #TBLightning @TB_Times #NHLTradeDeadline @TBTimes_JSmith https://t.co/NTF2sP5b5P

#tblightning GM Steve Yzerman is unsure what he'll be able to do at deadline, noting there are "very limited" fits. What he won't be doing is dealing from his current roster. "We're trying to keep this team together with the hope of improving it." Here's more from our talk today

That will make dealing for McD challenging. Would require multiple picks and/or players. Does Raddysh, Howden, Foote and a first excite you?

- airjan23

I like Foote, has good size RHD, good offensive instincts. Raddysh would likely be a bottom 6 guy and don’t know about Howden. It’s close but I might do it with the 1st
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:08 PM ET
Here is a question:

Do the Leafs have a better shot at the Cup with Marner or McDonagh on their roster this year? I am not suggesting one particular answer is right.

- Pete V


if McDonagh plays like he did the way he played in his last game, that 6-1 loss to Boston, the Leafs will be out in 3 games
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:08 PM ET
Probably McDonagh, if you strip away all the external factors. But age, RFA years, McDonagh being a UFA after next year, etc... makes that deal all the more complicated for the Leafs.
- eichiefs9


I don't disagree with that. But, then that deal would be no more available in the off-season that it is now, would it?
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:08 PM ET
I actually thought last nights blog was a surprisingly intelligent discussion with some heat added in. Lol
- Pete V

Some comments were intelligent, while others were scary in becoming aware of how many others right here alone on that blog last night are actual gun owners.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
Some comments were intelligent, while others were scary in becoming aware of how many others right here alone on that blog last night are actual gun owners.
- RangerSaver


Welcome to the US of A.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
Just think that they wouldn't want to mess with the chemistry that Nylander and Matthews have going. I am not even saying one player is better than the other.
- Pete V

Makes sense. I would prefer Nylander also but that’s only based on the few games I’ve seen the Leafs play.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
I don't disagree with that. But, then that deal would be no more available in the off-season that it is now, would it?
- Pete V

I think it would give them a lot more time to analyze the situation and figure out what their plan of attack is. That is a major transaction that will have organizational and cap ramifications for years to come, especially if they plan on re-signing (or trying to) McDonagh.

TOR is likely to run into a BOS buzz-saw in the first round and they may not even make it past that round. Trading a young potential star for what could only amount to a year plus 20 games of Ryan McDonagh would be big risk for a team that isn't really a serious contender yet.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
I like Foote, has good size RHD, good offensive instincts. Raddysh would likely be a bottom 6 guy and don’t know about Howden. It’s close but I might do it with the 1st
- nyrangers9479

I think you're underselling Raddysh a little. He's been over a PPG in every single OHL season since his draft year. He's a big boy, to boot. He could be a good player in the NHL.
nyrangers9479
New York Rangers
Joined: 11.08.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:15 PM ET
Some comments were intelligent, while others were scary in becoming aware of how many others right here alone on that blog last night are actual gun owners.
- RangerSaver

What’s wrong with being a gun owner?
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
Some comments were intelligent, while others were scary in becoming aware of how many others right here alone on that blog last night are actual gun owners.
- RangerSaver



Please Stop!!

Nothing wrong w/ owning a gun, so please stop ridiculing those who do.

It's ALARMING that many people own a gun.??..especially when the majority simply own a pistil or shotgun for hunting or protections
jimbo83
New York Rangers
Location: LETS GO RANGERS, NY
Joined: 06.27.2007

Feb 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
I think you're underselling Raddysh a little. He's been over a PPG in every single OHL season since his draft year. He's a big boy, to boot. He could be a good player in the NHL.
- eichiefs9


well the Rangers definitely could use a young forward with size who is a right handed shot in the organization, thats for sure
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
What’s wrong with being a gun owner?
- nyrangers9479
for my record, there is nothing wrong with owning a gun.
RangerSaver
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2013

Feb 22 @ 4:19 PM ET
Joe Smith, TB Times:
What Steve Yzerman won't be doing is dealing from his current lineup, so the likes of Mikhail Sergachev and Brayden Point won't be going anywhere. #TBLightning @TB_Times #NHLTradeDeadline @TBTimes_JSmith https://t.co/NTF2sP5b5P

#tblightning GM Steve Yzerman is unsure what he'll be able to do at deadline, noting there are "very limited" fits. What he won't be doing is dealing from his current roster. "We're trying to keep this team together with the hope of improving it." Here's more from our talk today

That will make dealing for McD challenging. Would require multiple picks and/or players. Does Raddysh, Howden, Foote and a first excite you?

- airjan23


That proves what I wrote earlier, Jan, in that he was only using some "make believe" interest in acquiring Karlsson to lower the price to give up for McDonagh. But Karlsson would cost more than McDonagh would in both trade value, and if signing extended there as the NHL's highest paid player he said he wants to be, would leave their salary cap in shambles 2 seasons from now, as I had broken out there in detail. Furthermore, even if the perceived new contracts for the two were reversed (instead of Karlsson at likely $12M then and McDonagh then at $6M minimum), Tampa needs McDonagh much more than they need a Karlsson as their final piece to a possible Cup winner.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 4:20 PM ET
well the Rangers definitely could use a young forward with size who is a right handed shot in the organization, thats for sure
- jimbo83

If I were Gorton I'd be looking to stockpile centers and defensemen like, well....it were my job. Not every prospects reaches their ceiling, or even comes close to it, so overstocking at important positions is pretty important if you can.
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