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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:53 PM ET
All in all

2018 first round pick
Filip Gustavsson (2016 2nd round pick, and a top goalie in the SHL)
Ian Cole

for

Derrick Brassard

- Codes1087


this is a nice deal for the Sens IMO Cole is not a bad player.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
And they started 2 weeks ago.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Just another way to twist the knife blade.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
this is a nice deal for the Sens IMO Cole is not a bad player.
- neem55


They plan on immediately flipping him for a draft pick, per Lebrun
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Per Dorion to Lebrun.

Plan is to immediately flip Ian Cole by Monday.

- Codes1087

(frank)
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
So they took on Brassard's which is more.
- VanHockeyGuy

Brassard is considerably better. And is a RHC, which are very saught after.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 23 @ 2:54 PM ET
Always a tough debate. While I slightly agree that a few 'extra' laws may help in the short term...until the American 'celebratory' culture of guns and violence changes well..not much will change. I firmly believe it's a culture issue and not a 'guns and access' issue. There were more guns per capita in the States for example in the 40's and 50's but yet little to no mass shootings. It's a tough issue that sparks big debate.
- LordHumungous


Extra laws would definitely help, the problem is it's already gone past the point of no return. The market has been flooded, but that doesn't mean that over time stricter laws (especially on the assault rifle types and bump stocks) would be beneficial. I'm in favour for much stricter laws, but that's me.

I totally agree on the culture part. It's a weird place down here. Large, impressive, a new idea that had never been tried before... Hard to live in a modern world clinging on to some pieces of paper that were written 250 years ago.

The bold part is wrong and misleading though. The numbers of people owning guns is trending down, but the overall numbers of guns are trending way up. From my initial research, 1950 had about .35 guns per capita, and now guns are roughly .9 per capita – almost one per person. There are over 300 million guns in the States.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
They plan on immediately flipping him for a draft pick, per Lebrun
- Codes1087


would be solid move on Dorions part if so. so 1,2nd(gustovsson) and 4th (iwould think) for Brassard.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Brassard is considerably better. And is a RHC, which are very saught after.
- neem55


Talking about "salary", not who's "better"
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Classic

https://twitter.com/twitt...atuses/967110568107655168

- VanHockeyGuy

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
Extra laws would definitely help, the problem is it's already gone past the point of no return. The market has been flooded, but that doesn't mean that over time stricter laws (especially on the assault rifle types and bump stocks) would be beneficial. I'm in favour for much stricter laws, but that's me.

I totally agree on the culture part. It's a weird place down here. Large, impressive, a new idea that had never been tried before... Hard to live in a modern world clinging on to some pieces of paper that were written 250 years ago.

The bold part is wrong and misleading though. The numbers of people owning guns is trending down, but the overall numbers of guns are trending way up. From my initial research, 1950 had about .35 guns per capita, and now guns are roughly .9 per capita – almost one per person. There are over 300 million guns in the States.

- NewYorkNuck


when they implemented those laws in Australia they rounded up guns. I don't think that would go over well in the bible belt, where "good christian valued people" have guns on their hip and confederate flags on their vehicles.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Feb 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
Talking about "salary", not who's "better"
- VanHockeyGuy

Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
Brassard is considerably better. And is a RHC, which are very saught after.
- neem55

Brassard shoots left
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 23 @ 3:07 PM ET
im saying stop selling those types of weapons now so there's no new military weapons being circulated through controllable channels. They'd still be able to buy pistols or hunting rifles so their constitution right is still in place, just more defined to reflect modern day society considering how much weapons have changed.

the bolded part....you hit it dead on again. It's funny how they try to force their ways on the rest of the planet. They condemn any conflicts others have yet hate everyone themselves. What a joke of an example. Thats the sole reason ISI exists. Their record of creating monsters in other areas of the world is beyond concerning.

- SMBDragon



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 23 @ 3:08 PM ET
Forced entry into a home is one thing but shoot a guy who hopped your fence on your farm?

- boonerbuck

That is extreme of course even for me but I guess it would depend on the circumstances. But no I wouldn't shoot people for cutting through my yard or hopping my fence. Now if they try to take something from my yard or break into my garage or storage...different story.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Lower mainland drivers

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Feb 23 @ 3:16 PM ET
That is extreme of course even for me but I guess it would depend on the circumstances. But no I wouldn't shoot people for cutting through my yard or hopping my fence. Now if they try to take something from my yard or break into my garage or storage...different story.
- LordHumungous


I think that mindset goes hand in hand with the culture we're talking about. Some guy who's breaking into your garage or storage to steal something is worth being killed? Basically, material goods > life ? It's the same mindset that's seen in some of those arrests-gone-wrong videos: the first reaction is to reach for a gun/shoot. (To be fair, if there's a larger life-or-death element, that's different.)
Cannmann
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.23.2018

Feb 23 @ 3:27 PM ET
To Van

Lehtera
Sanheim
Lindblom
1st (conditional, make playoffs)

To Phi

Tanev
Vanek
Biega

Couple prospects for tanev and package vanek with tanev to pry a 2nd our way and biega/ lehtera for cap reasoning and gives philly a solid 7th- 8th dman incase of injury
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 3:29 PM ET
To Van

Lehtera
Sanheim
Lindblom
1st (conditional, make playoffs)

To Phi

Tanev
Vanek
Biega

Couple prospects for tanev and package vanek with tanev to pry a 2nd our way and biega/ lehtera for cap reasoning and gives philly a solid 7th- 8th dman incase of injury

- Cannmann


I smell an alt
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 3:30 PM ET
To Van

Lehtera
Sanheim
Lindblom
1st (conditional, make playoffs)

To Phi

Tanev
Vanek
Biega

Couple prospects for tanev and package vanek with tanev to pry a 2nd our way and biega/ lehtera for cap reasoning and gives philly a solid 7th- 8th dman incase of injury

- Cannmann

Not a good first impression.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 3:31 PM ET
Not a good first impression.
- Marwood


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 3:35 PM ET
To Van

Lehtera
Sanheim
Lindblom
1st (conditional, make playoffs)

To Phi

Tanev
Vanek
Biega

Couple prospects for tanev and package vanek with tanev to pry a 2nd our way and biega/ lehtera for cap reasoning and gives philly a solid 7th- 8th dman incase of injury

- Cannmann


Nice alt
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
Odd story developing in Ott. Back in January, when times were really awful for the Sens, there was a team meeting in the locker room after a game, and Dorion came in to talk to the team. Dion apparently not only didn't turn the music down/off, but turned it up. Dorion has felt disrespected by some of the players (Dion) and has the full support of Melnyk to change the "culture" of the dressing room. The Karlsson rumors apparently stem from him voicing his displeasure with management not spending the money he thinks the team deserves, and driving players like Alfredsson and Turris out of town.

All this per Travis Yost.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 3:40 PM ET
Odd story developing in Ott. Back in January, when times were really awful for the Sens, there was a team meeting in the locker room after a game, and Dorion came in to talk to the team. Dion apparently not only didn't turn the music down/off, but turned it up. Dorion has felt disrespected by some of the players (Dion) and has the full support of Melnyk to change the "culture" of the dressing room. The Karlsson rumors apparently stem from him voicing his displeasure with management not spending the money he thinks the team deserves, and driving players like Alfredsson and Turris out of town.

All this per Travis Yost.

- Codes1087

You do hear the word "character" thrown out there a lot more these days when they talk about youth.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 23 @ 3:41 PM ET
http://nationalpost.com/s...arrassing-loss-to-germany

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Feb 23 @ 3:43 PM ET
I think that mindset goes hand in hand with the culture we're talking about. Some guy who's breaking into your garage or storage to steal something is worth being killed? Basically, material goods > life ? It's the same mindset that's seen in some of those arrests-gone-wrong videos: the first reaction is to reach for a gun/shoot. (To be fair, if there's a larger life-or-death element, that's different.)
- NewYorkNuck

Respectfully due a various level of circumstances I can't see it that way. The criminal element is protected so much now it very tough to decipher the issues and break them down. For someone trespassing on my property with malicious intent whether to steal or harm others, they need to be aware of the consequences involved of such actions. That, to me is the mentality issue as well. They believe they can get away with anything without any repercussions to themselves or the surroundings they affect. I see it everyday working between two high schools and dealing with the self-entitled drug dealing kids almost on a weekly basis. They feel they are untouchable and just chalk full of self-entitlement. This also leads in to the current arrogance of the up and coming criminal element IMO.

Now would I go into my garage guns ablazing if I caught someone in there? Of course not. I have the ability to decipher varying circumstances but like you said the moment it becomes a life/death issue it changes everything.

And a quick comment on your 'arrest gone wrong' situations. My father was RCMP for over 30 years and treated people very well and was respected for it. Not sure where we got lost along the way with many cops today having God complexes and itchy trigger fingers. But in their defense in 99.9 percent of most cases (and I saw this many times with ride-alongs with my Dad), if the people being arrested just did what the officer asked them to do all would be fine. But again...people are self entitled more than ever now and they have issues that go well beyond just simply Cops trying to arrest them...to be fair.



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