as a General Manager, you ultimately have the sign of approval on hockey trades, and drafting, but you aren't the lead scout.

Benning is known as a scout, and a professional in talent analysis correct? If you watched the video of the 2017 draft for day 2 or rounds 2-7, when it came to their second 2nd round pick (Jonah Gadjovich), he had absolutely no idea who he was. Brackett brought up his name, and Weisbrod told him he would be a big/strong body who would be hard for teams to play against. All in all, if you think GM's have the time to travel the world to see players over NA and Europe, and run the day-to-day operations, you are sorely mistaken. That is the purpose of having a scouting department.
- Codes1087

A review, sounds like Jim wanted EP and KL. JG he didn't really know about sounds like Weisbrod knew the most about him. Brackett threw out MD. Weisbrod and Brackett both had something to say about JR.

Based on draft position and statistical analysis of probability he's a 25 percent chance to play 100 games in the nhl, to be as good as Tanev has been.... the odds are very, very slim, like 5 to 10 percent. Its increased by a factor of 5 due to him having a good drafty plus 1 year based of similar players in the nhl that produced at his level, but doesn't account for defensive lapses, only offensive ability, so yes, 50 percent is an optimistic number for him to turn out as good as Tanev.

Doesn't mean he's not a good prospect, just that you're over estimating how many 'good ' prospects actually become good, not average, players.
- Pres.cup

All of his defensive metrics at the AHL level are solid. What defensive lapses are you referring to? I don't think he needs to be as good as Tanev, I think he needs to be able to play solid top4 minutes 3-4 years from now when we start being competitive. Tanev is already showing signs of age as his durability comes into question, I don't know if I see him being as effective in his 30's. Liljgren is 18. It's a better long-term plan, which is what this team needs. i think Liljgren and a pick would be a great return.

Ya..... The calder is well over. Barzal has a 15 point lead.
- manvanfan

Ya it looks like Brock is playing through that wrist injury. He has been invisible for a few games now. But I'm sure if Brock was playing with Tavares and Co. he would be right there with Barzal.

A review, sounds like Jim wanted EP and KL. JG he didn't really know about sounds like Weisbrod knew the most about him. Brackett threw out MD. Weisbrod and Brackett both had something to say about JR.
- manvanfan

yep exactly. Jim has made personal trips to different places to hand scout players, but he doesn't have time to do what scouts are primarily paid to do.

Would you do that deal today?

MG got the pick, something JB has stuggled with.
- VanHockeyGuy

I agree with this. JB needs to be a bit more of a spender. But MG should have gotten more, so the blade cuts both ways.

All of his defensive metrics at the AHL level are solid. What defensive lapses are you referring to? I don't think he needs to be as good as Tanev, I think he needs to be able to play solid top4 minutes 3-4 years from now when we start being competitive. Tanev is already showing signs of age as his durability comes into question, I don't know if I see him being as effective in his 30's. Liljgren is 18. It's a better long-term plan, which is what this team needs. i think Liljgren and a pick would be a great return.
- neem55

despite not liking the Leafs, I actually think Liljegren is going to be a good player for them. If he was ever involved in any sort of trade to the Canucks, I would be very happy. Our defensive prospect depth right now is bad

yep exactly. Jim has made personal trips to different places to hand scout players, but he doesn't have time to do what scouts are primarily paid to do.
- Codes1087

JB attends like the 5 nations tournament, WJC, CHL all-star game. He probably has a top 30 and that's about it.

despite not liking the Leafs, I actually think Liljegren is going to be a good player for them. If he was ever involved in any sort of trade to the Canucks, I would be very happy. Our defensive prospect depth right now is bad
- Codes1087

It's our biggest weakness on a team full of weaknesses. I hope putting more D in the pipe is the focus going into the draft, should be easy as this is a D heavy draft in the first 3 rounds. And ya, if he can get a prospect in a trade (one that is being developed the right way, I might add) it would be a huge deal for us.

JB attends like the 5 nations tournament, WJC, CHL all-star game. He probably has a top 30 and that's about it.
- manvanfan

Don't forget that he might have a list of his top players to draft, but teams tend to throw monkey wrenches in the form of outlier picks, players that drop, KHL players who might not want to leave Russia and other such issues.

Bob McKenzie

Reporting that the Sens are shopping EK, but the condition is that the receiving team MUST take Bobby Ryan and his 7 million dollar contract. Eugene Melnyk is actually ruining that franchise, and while I feel for sens fans, it is unbelievably comical.

Rangers rebuild is going better than ours

Rangers rebuild is going better than ours


- neem55

It's because they have actually engaged in rebuilding. The canucks aren't rebuilding in the true sense.

JB attends like the 5 nations tournament, WJC, CHL all-star game. He probably has a top 30 and that's about it.
- manvanfan

I doubt it. Being a scout in todays world comes down to more than games you attend, I'd imagine he watches a lot of tape. Of course his scouts do their job, flag guys and come in with reports. But I think JB clearly devotes a lot of time to draft prep.

Bob McKenzie

Reporting that the Sens are shopping EK, but the condition is that the receiving team MUST take Bobby Ryan and his 7 million dollar contract. Eugene Melnyk is actually ruining that franchise, and while I feel for sens fans, it is unbelievably comical.
- Codes1087

FFS, how can that be allowed, Melnyk is trying to pull a Miami Marlins.

3 Players in his many years as GM...
Bo is a great pick
Hutton was decent
Hodgson was half decent and he had a couple good years.
everyone else was AHL level talent with possible 4th line potential(only 1 or 2)or just trash.
- Retinalz

Don't forget that he might have a list of his top players to draft, but teams tend to throw monkey wrenches in the form of outlier picks, players that drop, KHL players who might not want to leave Russia and other such issues.
- DariusKnight

That's what I mean he has a top 30 list of players, if they drop he can pick them in the second round like Lind. Wanting EP and thinking he could have gotten him later but with NYR trading up.

Lias Andersson went back to the SHL and has now back in the AHL. A bit odd.

Bob McKenzie

Reporting that the Sens are shopping EK, but the condition is that the receiving team MUST take Bobby Ryan and his 7 million dollar contract. Eugene Melnyk is actually ruining that franchise, and while I feel for sens fans, it is unbelievably comical.
- Codes1087

There's only so may teams that can take on those two contracts at once, this sounds like an offseason move. Canucks could make it happen in the offseason. Should they?

Great insight.

Kucherov, Ovechkin, Kessel and Gaudreau say hi
- imsorry66

Ladd Nash Ryan LE say bye

There's only so may teams that can take on those two contracts at once, this sounds like an offseason move. Canucks could make it happen in the offseason. Should they?
- neem55

Bobby Ryan has a 7.25 cap hit for 4 more years
Erik Karlsson will cost 10 million AAV for however many years. I think IF those are the conditions of Melnyk and Dorion, it really limits his trade partners.

There's only so may teams that can take on those two contracts at once, this sounds like an offseason move. Canucks could make it happen in the offseason. Should they?
- neem55

Personally I want nothing to do with EK. He is too old and too brittle.

It's because they have actually engaged in rebuilding. The canucks aren't rebuilding in the true sense.
- bloatedmosquito

Agreed. They made some rebuilding trades last year. I have no problem taking on prospects instead of picks. But last year was the first, I agree.

Personally I want nothing to do with EK. He is too old and too brittle.
- CanuckDon

he's 27

It's because they have actually engaged in rebuilding. The canucks aren't rebuilding in the true sense.
- bloatedmosquito

I think he was too focused on "now" to even care about the prospect pool. Gillis traded the farm and the future for a chance to win a cup. I never felt like Gillis ever cared about prospects or drafting during his tenure as GM
- Codes1087

Summary:
threw away picks & overpaid needlessly
Couldn’t draft worth a crap
Wouldn’t know how to develop a prospect
Not here to dig out of this mess
Rode what he inherited into the ground

Personally I want nothing to do with EK. He is too old and too brittle.
- CanuckDon

Just draft the next Karlsson in Boqvist this year.