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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:44 AM ET
Ty MG what a moron
Couldn’t draft & was an agent 👎

- Nighthawk


a) Bo Horvat

b) Adam Gaudette

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Feb 23 @ 10:45 AM ET
1 guy does nothing...
Overpaid for that

- Nighthawk

oh
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:46 AM ET
Wingers are far too often overpaid.
A good to great C are golden & wingers not much use without them. Soft perimeter players in general & disappear in the big games very often.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:47 AM ET
a) Bo Horvat

b) Adam Gaudette


- VanHockeyGuy


Schneider not a cheap price
JB drafted AG
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:49 AM ET
Schneider not a cheap price
JB drafted AG

- Nighthawk


Would you do that deal today?

MG got the pick, something JB has stuggled with.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:50 AM ET
Exactly . One of the few times we agree
- VANTEL

In the end though, If you look at where the best D in the league were drafted. It's normally in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

Karlsson 15oa
Burns 20oa
Keith 54oa
Buff 245oa
Yandle 105oa
Weber 49oa
Doughty 2oa
Letang 62oa
Subban 43oa
Suter 7oa
Hedman 2oa
Pietrangelo 4oa

Those are just the top 12 point scoring Dman over the past 8 years. As you can see there are a few occasional people found outside the top 2 rounds.


manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:51 AM ET
Ty MG what a moron
Couldn’t draft & was an agent 👎

- Nighthawk

I don't know how anyone could be as bad as MG was.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:52 AM ET
Wingers are far too often overpaid.
A good to great C are golden & wingers not much use without them. Soft perimeter players in general & disappear in the big games very often.

- Nighthawk

Sedins?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:56 AM ET
I don't know how anyone could be as bad as MG was.
- manvanfan


He's a smart guy. His arrogance did him in, the other GM's hated his guts. Never fit in, you need to co-exist with you counterparts, lose that and your fuked.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
Would you do that deal today?

MG got the pick, something JB has stuggled with.

- VanHockeyGuy



Yes

JB doesn’t have a vet blue chip to trade.
MG screwed up with Luongo & didn’t do us any favours in the end.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 10:58 AM ET
He's a smart guy. His arrogance did him in, the other GM's hated his guts. Never fit in, you need to co-exist with you counterparts, lose that and your fuked.
- VanHockeyGuy

What does that have to do with poopty drafting?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:00 AM ET
What does that have to do with poopty drafting?
- manvanfan


I am not sure how much influence MG had in the Canucks drafting while he was GM though. The guy was an agent turned GM wasn't he? I am not sure he had much influence at all.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:01 AM ET
What does that have to do with poopty drafting?
- manvanfan



Or an ECHL roster in the AHL?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
I am not sure how much influence MG had in the Canucks drafting while he was GM though. The guy was an agent turned GM wasn't he? I am not sure he had much influence at all.
- Codes1087



That makes no sense
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:02 AM ET
I am not sure how much influence MG had in the Canucks drafting while he was GM though. The guy was an agent turned GM wasn't he? I am not sure he had much influence at all.
- Codes1087

He probably had some say. The fact is he couldn't see that the current scouting team sucked. Didn't change them at all.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:03 AM ET
I don't know how anyone could be as bad as MG was.
- manvanfan



MB aspires to be 😂😂
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:04 AM ET
I don't know how anyone could be as bad as MG was.
- manvanfan

3 Players in his many years as GM...
Bo is a great pick
Hutton was decent
Hodgson was half decent and he had a couple good years.
everyone else was AHL level talent with possible 4th line potential(only 1 or 2)or just trash.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:05 AM ET
Or an ECHL roster in the AHL?
- Nighthawk

I was a bit surprised when Trent Cull said that Demko isn't NHL ready. He was there when Vaselskiy (totally misspelled) was there.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Feb 23 @ 11:07 AM ET
3 Players in his many years as GM...
Bo is a great pick
Hutton was decent
Hodgson was half decent and he had a couple good years.
everyone else was AHL level talent with possible 4th line potential(only 1 or 2)or just trash.

- Retinalz



Bo cost us Schneider a wash
Hutton trade his ass
Hodgson is KHL talent
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:11 AM ET
Ya..... The calder is well over. Barzal has a 15 point lead.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:12 AM ET
That makes no sense
- Nighthawk


as a General Manager, you ultimately have the sign of approval on hockey trades, and drafting, but you aren't the lead scout.

Benning is known as a scout, and a professional in talent analysis correct? If you watched the video of the 2017 draft for day 2 or rounds 2-7, when it came to their second 2nd round pick (Jonah Gadjovich), he had absolutely no idea who he was. Brackett brought up his name, and Weisbrod told him he would be a big/strong body who would be hard for teams to play against. All in all, if you think GM's have the time to travel the world to see players over NA and Europe, and run the day-to-day operations, you are sorely mistaken. That is the purpose of having a scouting department.
imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers.
Joined: 02.16.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:14 AM ET
Wingers are far too often overpaid.
A good to great C are golden & wingers not much use without them. Soft perimeter players in general & disappear in the big games very often.

- Nighthawk


Great insight.

Kucherov, Ovechkin, Kessel and Gaudreau say hi
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Feb 23 @ 11:15 AM ET
He probably had some say. The fact is he couldn't see that the current scouting team sucked. Didn't change them at all.
- manvanfan


I think he was too focused on "now" to even care about the prospect pool. Gillis traded the farm and the future for a chance to win a cup. I never felt like Gillis ever cared about prospects or drafting during his tenure as GM
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 23 @ 11:18 AM ET
Baertschi Horvat Boeser
Virtanen Gaudette Goldy
Granlund Gagner Eriksson
Archie Sutter Gaunce

Gaudette and Goldy could replace the Sedin's production (maybe). Depending on who Van drafts, Svechnikov, Zadina, Tkachuk. Slide Baertschi off top line and onto another line.

Edler Gudbranson
MDZ Stecher
Pouliot Tanev

If Van could sign someone like a Will Butcher (Brickley?) Trade MDZ. If they Draft Bouchard, Dobson and they seem ready. Trade Tanev.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 23 @ 11:19 AM ET
I don't know how anyone could be as bad as MG was.
- manvanfan


That is why Nonis is such an enigma. He was such a bad GM it defies logic.
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