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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 22 @ 10:54 PM ET
I'd be perfectly fine with it.

Plekanec is an effective player. I don't know who'd be 3C or 4C, but it would be a nice problem to have.

- Rinosaur

I think chemistry wise, you bring in Plek to take over the 4C spot since Sheahan has already been playing with Guentzel and Kessel a lot and just give the 4th line a bit more ice time and use them to help eat up defensive zone starts so that you can deploy the Kessel line in the O-Zone more.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 22 @ 10:56 PM ET
I think chemistry wise, you bring in Plek to take over the 4C spot since Sheahan has already been playing with Guentzel and Kessel a lot and just give the 4th line a bit more ice time and use them to help eat up defensive zone starts so that you can deploy the Kessel line in the O-Zone more.
- Victoro311


Again... nice problem to have. IMO you can't lose no matter how you structure it. If Plek has better chemistry with Kessel, Sheahan on the 4th now gives the Pens a 4th line that can play significant time and score.

668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Feb 22 @ 10:56 PM ET
If we keep all of our roster players as is, I really hope we don't spend that much on Pouliot.
- Victoro311

Can we though? Even if Montreal retains half?
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 22 @ 10:59 PM ET
dont think the price was bad, but im not terribly upset with missing out on grabner.

he is someone i always wanted on the pens, but as things are constructed its pretty much center or bust.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
The goal IMO is trying to use Hunwick to get either Plekanec or Pouliot.

I think BUF would do Hunwick for Pouliot.

I'd send a 2nd to MTL for Plekanec and maybe Kuhn or Rowney if they actually wanted them.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:00 PM ET
I'd be perfectly fine with it.

Plekanec is an effective player. I don't know who'd be 3C or 4C, but it would be a nice problem to have.

- Rinosaur


This roster is as interchangeable as any I can ever remember......other than Sid and Geno of course. Players go from first line to 4th in the matter of a period.

My inclination would be Plek would be 3C until he proves he can't play. He's a little more skilled passer than Sheahan.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 22 @ 11:02 PM ET
This roster is as interchangeable as any I can ever remember......other than Sid and Geno of course. Players go from first line to 4th in the matter of a period.

My inclination would be Plek would be 3C until he proves he can't play. He's a little more skilled passer than Sheahan.

- madmike71


If the Pens gave up no roster players other than Hunwick, Kuhn or Rowney...

Guentzel-Sid-Rust
Hagelin-Geno-Hornqvist
Pouliot-Plek/Sheahan-Kessel
Sheary/Simon-Plek/Sheahn-ZAR

See... this is why the Pens don't need another winger. They don't even need Pouliot.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:07 PM ET
If the Pens gave up no roster players other than Hunwick, Kuhn or Rowney...

Guentzel-Sid-Rust
Hagelin-Geno-Hornqvist
Pouliot-Plek/Sheahan-Kessel
Sheary/Simon-Plek/Sheahn-ZAR

See... this is why the Pens don't need another winger. They don't even need Pouliot.

- Rinosaur

I find it humorous all these created lineups that don't have Reaves in it, I don't think he'll be scratched as much you might think in the playoffs.

Solid lineup nonetheless
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 22 @ 11:08 PM ET
I find it humorous all these created lineups that don't have Reeves in it, I don't think he'll be scratched as much you might think in the playoffs
- nelson911


Again, even more reason the Pens don't need anymore wingers.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 22 @ 11:10 PM ET
I find it humorous all these created lineups that don't have Reaves in it, I don't think he'll be scratched as much you might think in the playoffs.

Solid lineup nonetheless

- nelson911

Reaves has been fine lately, but who the hell do you scratch for him? Everyone in these created lineups are without a doubt better than him. ZAR has a small sample size and maybe flames out, but besides that I don’t think there’s a roster opening outside injury.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:13 PM ET
Reaves has been fine lately, but who the hell do you scratch for him? Everyone in these created lineups are without a doubt better than him. ZAR has a small sample size and maybe flames out, but besides that I don’t think there’s a roster opening outside injury.
- Victoro311

Simon or ZAR would be the only ones depending if their play plunges, heck Sheary is prolly on thinner ice. A lot depends on their opponent. Pens have so many options and that's a good thing
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 22 @ 11:26 PM ET
I find it humorous all these created lineups that don't have Reaves in it, I don't think he'll be scratched as much you might think in the playoffs.

Solid lineup nonetheless

- nelson911


Reaves will be situational. If he's playing with a competent center, I kind of like what he can do. I like how knocks dmen of the puck with ease.

I will say however It would not surprise me in the least if Rowney goes to wing and displaces someone. Sullivan like his PK and FO abilities.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:58 PM ET
Reaves will be situational. If he's playing with a competent center, I kind of like what he can do. I like how knocks dmen of the puck with ease.

I will say however It would not surprise me in the least if Rowney goes to wing and displaces someone. Sullivan like his PK and FO abilities.

- madmike71

For sure, if Reaves gets someone like Plek to play with, I think he'll be just fine.

It is nice to have a guy that will paste the other teams defenders into the boards... cause you know they will be doing the same to Schultz and Letang.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Feb 23 @ 12:14 AM ET
Hypothetical

Would you trade Hags, Sprong, Gustavsson, and 2018, 2019 1st for Karlsson if it meant we won 1 cup in the next 2 years but Karlsson walked as a FA?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Feb 23 @ 1:03 AM ET
Hypothetical

Would you trade Hags, Sprong, Gustavsson, and 2018, 2019 1st for Karlsson if it meant we won 1 cup in the next 2 years but Karlsson walked as a FA?

- TheGame316


I wouldn't do that.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:04 AM ET
My gut tells me the following...

The Pens will acquire Pouliot and Plekanec

- Rinosaur


I would be fine with that.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 2:56 AM ET
For a 2nd and a prospect. Glad we didn't pay that. Would have been livid if we sent out Sprong for Grabner.
- Victoro311


I don't think Rykov was the Devils best prospect. Still anything more than a 2nd is a great deal for the Rags.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 6:49 AM ET
So the Sens are rumoured to want between 5-7 pieces for EK. That will definately be a tough ask for most teams that are close to anything that resembles being a contender. So could we say he's off the table (unless the cost lowers), at the deadline. So a tight ass stingy owner wants to break an organisation if he is to give over his jewel? Now question is if EK isn't traded & he stays a Senator, then this circus will reappear in 12 months (likely). Are the Sens going to be a contender in the next 48 months so EK can try & win a Cup? That will take all the players or at least Hoffman & Brassard to stick around.

So, in my view if Brassard & Hoffman get traded EK will be out of Ottawa with every chance the EK being used to try & get a higher pick at the draft.
NJPensfan
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.25.2006

Feb 23 @ 7:39 AM ET
I don't think Rykov was the Devils best prospect. Still anything more than a 2nd is a great deal for the Rags.
- Aussiepenguin


Do you think that would have been too much for the Pens to give up for him? A 2nd and a D prospect?

My thinking on why the Pens were reportedly interesting in him in the first place when depth and quality at wing isn't really an issue right now, is that they were probably looking at moving one of their own speedy wingers and wanted a replacement, even if it was only for this season. I wonder who they are willing to deal for possibly an upgrade center? Hags? He was probably the most comparable to Grabner.
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 7:57 AM ET
Do you think that would have been too much for the Pens to give up for him? A 2nd and a D prospect?

My thinking on why the Pens were reportedly interesting in him in the first place when depth and quality at wing isn't really an issue right now, is that they were probably looking at moving one of their own speedy wingers and wanted a replacement, even if it was only for this season. I wonder who they are willing to deal for possibly an upgrade center? Hags? He was probably the most comparable to Grabner.

- NJPensfan


I think Hunwick would be added to a winger, which may or may not have been Shears or Simon for a bigger fish. I'm thinking JR put a 2nd on the table for Grabner & said take it or leave it. Then try & trade for a C.

Not sure how the Rags went about this. They want Grabner back if reports are correct so do they ask him where he wants to go as a favour & send him there, trade to a team that may miss the playoffs & hopefully improve their pick, or keep him away from a team that he may learn to like (the Pens), & sign with instead of heading back to Broadway?

Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 7:59 AM ET
Plek? He would be an awesome pickup for the Pens, he would probably come cheaper than Brassard, MTL would eat salary, I personally think Plekanec is the best choice given cost to acquire. I don't think he should cost anything more than a 2nd-4th round pick or 2.
- j.boyd919

Personally, I'm still hoping for Brassard because of the extra year and the massive advantage he'd give us down the middle. But I'd be happy with Plekanec.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:00 AM ET
Again... nice problem to have. IMO you can't lose no matter how you structure it. If Plek has better chemistry with Kessel, Sheahan on the 4th now gives the Pens a 4th line that can play significant time and score.
- Rinosaur

Agreed, I'd at least try Plekanec with Kessel to see what happens.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:04 AM ET
I think Hunwick would be added to a winger, which may or may not have been Shears or Simon for a bigger fish. I'm thinking JR put a 2nd on the table for Grabner & said take it or leave it. Then try & trade for a C.

Not sure how the Rags went about this. They want Grabner back if reports are correct so do they ask him where he wants to go as a favour & send him there, trade to a team that may miss the playoffs & hopefully improve their pick, or keep him away from a team that he may learn to like (the Pens), & sign with instead of heading back to Broadway?

- Aussiepenguin

So the rumor I saw with Grabner was the Pens wanted their center first in case they needed the assets. So they didn't plan to get him until the deadline. They seem to be monitoring Brassard, Plekanec, and Cullen to see what happens.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:09 AM ET
Pouliot doesn't feel necessary, I'd just as soon play our kids.

Kane isn't either. He'd be a nice boost next to Crosby, especially with him being in a position where he can make a lot with a strong play-off. If the price goes down and we have our center I wouldn't mind him, but just isn't necessary and don't see how they fit him.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:15 AM ET
Pouliot doesn't feel necessary, I'd just as soon play our kids.

Kane isn't either. He'd be a nice boost next to Crosby, especially with him being in a position where he can make a lot with a strong play-off. If the price goes down and we have our center I wouldn't mind him, but just isn't necessary and don't see how they fit him.

- Tojo.
4C

Agree on Pouliot.

Kane, however, I do think would make a big difference. With the way we are balancing out 4 lines right now, I don't think Sid has good enough wingers. Kane and a 4C would be great.
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