Three years? Isn't he having a big decline right now?
- Jeffmt

No he's declined a bit, but honestly the D have been hanging him out to dry all year

It's funny how people are pretending like Karlsson's season is SOOO horrible.

On arguably the worst team in the league, he's still averaging 0.78 pts per game, and that is coming off of a major surgery where they literally removed bones in his ankle and replaced them with artificial pieces. He missed training camp, he lost his reliable defense partner, and is playing in a bit of a poopty system right now.

He averages 26:19 per game, which is 4th highest in the league.

Haters gonna Hate.

There's reason to question whether or not these injuries will have a long-term effect- and as a die-hard sens fan- it's one that I question whether or not it's worth it to go long-term for him- but I still think he's worth it.
- Jordo

Exactly! He had part of his ankle removed and now he's having a very mediocre season by his standards. (Who said horrible?) If you think it's a good idea to throw 8 years and $100M at that, be my guest.

Ya but....he really should a 2nd liner....not a true number 1.
- Fakepartofme

No we had a 2nd line C with Turris. Duchene is absolutely a #1C

The real question is whether or not Karlsson wants to stay. Assuming he does, I really doubt that Dorion would trade Karlsson for any number of reasons... most importantly because trading star players seldom lands anything close to the huge return that people expect. You typically either have big 1:1 trades like Hall-Larsson, Subban-Weber, or Johansen-Jones (I'm not even sure what 1 player would be considered in such a deal), or a package of 'meh' like what Duchene, Kessel, and Seguin returned. It's also highly valuable for a small market team to retain a clear face of the franchise, and Karlsson means more to Ottawa than he will to any other NHL team.

What they really need to do is focus on the core veterans (Karlsson, Stone, Duchene), continue to add good young talent (Chabot, White, Brown, this year's 1st), and stop pretending that anyone else is untouchable. That includes Hoffman, who at the end of the day is a talented but inconsistent 25G-scoring winger.

The real question is whether or not Karlsson wants to stay. Assuming he does, I really doubt that Dorion would trade Karlsson for any number of reasons... most importantly because trading star players seldom lands anything close to the huge return that people expect. You typically either have big 1:1 trades like Hall-Larsson, Subban-Weber, or Johansen-Jones (I'm not even sure what 1 player would be considered in such a deal), or a package of 'meh' like what Duchene, Kessel, and Seguin returned. It's also highly valuable for a small market team to retain a clear face of the franchise, and Karlsson means more to Ottawa than he will to any other NHL team.

What they really need to do is focus on the core veterans (Karlsson, Stone, Duchene), continue to add good young talent (Chabot, White, Brown, this year's 1st), and stop pretending that anyone else is untouchable. That includes Hoffman, who at the end of the day is a talented but inconsistent 25G-scoring winger.
- khawk

I agree with everything you just said other than Hoffman.
If we were to get rid of Hoffman it would be for a #1LW who can score, is young, fast and has chemistry with Duchene... Hoffman already has all that and the fan base loves him. There is no point in moving Hoffman.

Can a team give-up the assets needed to make a trade for Karlsson this season and not cripple their playoff chances?
- aaron12

I honestly think the Devil's could. Mcleod has been a great prospect who played on canada's world junior team, maybe paired with a 1st round pick and one of (Marcus Johannson, Will Butcher, Kovalchuks rights) or something could give Ottawa some affordable talent while not hurting the Dev's roster. Not sure if you guys can offload Ryan without taking some of the Cap tho.

I honestly think the Devil's could. Mcleod has been a great prospect who played on canada's world junior team, maybe paired with a 1st round pick and one of (Marcus Johannson, Will Butcher, Kovalchuks rights) or something could give Ottawa some affordable talent while not hurting the Dev's roster. Not sure if you guys can offload Ryan without taking some of the Cap tho.
- bikeguy99

lol. sens could have drafted mcloed. instead the drafted some bust and gave you guys a 3rd to do it.

Modified 10 team NTC.
- david22

I'm guessing:

NY Rangers
Tampa Bay
LA
Boston
San Jose
Anaheim
Pittsburgh
Nashville
Chicago
Dallas

Teams with solid ownership (deep pockets), veteran management group, a history of success, and plenty of sunshine. Detroit is an outlier because of the success and Swedish ties (Lidstrom, Alfredsson, Zetterberg).

Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson

Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson
- TheUltimateJet

No thanks!

Just for fun:

To OTT: Jacob Trouba, Mason Appelton, Eric Comrie, Tobias Enstrom, Sean Matthias, Marko Dano, 2018 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick, 2019 7th round pick.

To WPG: Erik Karlsson, Bobby Ryan


I love Erik Karlsson
- TheUltimateJet

Trouba/ehlers/comrie/1st

For

Karlsson

Trouba/ehlers/comrie/1st

For

Karlsson
- sensarmy_11

I love Ehlers, but Karlsson is the best player in the league. I would be inclined to do this move.

Trading Karlsson is stupid idea period.

Unless he return is something we would be dumb to say no too and even then I doubt fans would forgive PD
- Maverick1818

Will you forgive him in 4 years when there is another 4 to go at 13/yr? The new NHL says thats bad. I dont put love into the numbers just the emblem

If it does happen the only thing unforgivable is not exploiting him earlier with more talent surrounding him.They did try last year and it worked out pretty good but the rest was a wash
If he stays or goes could be good either way or painful either way

lol. sens could have drafted mcloed. instead the drafted some bust and gave you guys a 3rd to do it.
- Tumbleweed

So Logan Brown is the bust, despite being on track for easily his best offensive year in the CHL... but McLeod, whose scoring has badly regressed since last year, was the smart pick? That's certainly a well-conceived point you've made.

So Logan Brown is the bust, despite being on track for easily his best offensive year in the CHL... but McLeod, whose scoring has badly regressed since last year, was the smart pick? That's certainly a well-conceived point you've made.
- khawk

Fair enough. Both are junk.

Especially considering mcavoy and chychurn were still on the board.

So Logan Brown is the bust, despite being on track for easily his best offensive year in the CHL... but McLeod, whose scoring has badly regressed since last year, was the smart pick? That's certainly a well-conceived point you've made.
- khawk

wow...dominating the ohl...impressive.

wow...dominating the ohl...impressive.
- systemtool

19 years putting up points against 16 year olds.

Guarantees nhl success.

I agree with everything you just said other than Hoffman.
If we were to get rid of Hoffman it would be for a #1LW who can score, is young, fast and has chemistry with Duchene... Hoffman already has all that and the fan base loves him. There is no point in moving Hoffman.
- Maverick1818

Assuming they sign all of Karlsson/Duchene/Stone and are stuck with Ryan's contract, there isn't going to be much left to sign Hoffman to an extension plus a raise... especially once the likes of Chabot, White, and Brown start needing new deals. That means they likely have 2 more years of Hoffman, versus freeing up $5M/yr and using his trade value to add a couple of valuable pieces to the team's new direction. Not to mention that a high draft pick at this year's draft could yield the likes of Tkachuk or Zadina, either of whom could be just as productive as Hoffman in a relatively short timeframe.

Hoffman's a good player, but I really don't view him as irreplaceable... 25G/60Pts players just don't fit that billing.

19 years putting up points against 16 year olds.

Guarantees nhl success.
- Tumbleweed

Yeah bit of a reach... about equal with calling him bust at this point.

Trouba/ehlers/comrie/1st

For

Karlsson
- sensarmy_11

location worthy

I love Ehlers, but Karlsson is the best player in the league. I would be inclined to do this move.
- TheUltimateJet

Yeah bit of a reach... about equal with calling him bust at this point.
- david22

He's slow and is point totals in the ohl don't scream nhl success.

But he's local (sort of) and he's big so he's dorion's wet dream

If they're gonna trade him just do it and get it over with.

The sens are not a cap team. So, if they insist on making him part of the deal, it will prove ownership is only interested in the bottom line. Any Senator fan should not be happy about this news
- BernardShakey

My thoughts exactly. Including Ryan is only gonna hurt your return on Karlsson and that is unacceptable as a Sens fan.

location worthy
- Aetherial

a trade proposal between ottawa and winnipeg

ottawa fan thinks it's fair

winnipeg fan thinks it's fair

hey, let's hear what a leaf troll has to say .