all you have to do is look at the standings

Playoff run? You mean lose to Boston and/or Tampa Bay?

He's going to walk or ask for more money than he's worth, just like JVR.

Leafs could get 10 years out of Dermott and the next 5-7 years for Dermott are going to be way cheaper and guaranteed compared to a guy who can walk if he wants to.
- Unholy_Goalie

Not everyone is as pessimistic about the playoffs as you seem to be. I think the Leafs could beat both Boston and Tampa. The odds and smart money might be against them, but stranger things have happened.

I hope you don't get defensive about my disagreement.

You do know Toronto has just as good of a chance at beating Boston/Tampa as those teams do at beating Toronto.

We see many upsets ever year. Shut up with the Leafs aren't beating Boston or Tampa this year already, it just makes you sound like you barely pay attention to what happens in the playoffs.
- LeafGuy89

Nope.

data, standings, facts all point to Boston and Tampa Bay being better than Toronto right now

it's time everyone stops being delusional

guys UG is not wrong when he notes that Tampa and Boston are better than the Leafs right now
- twiztedmike

No but he is wrong in saying Leafs have no chance of beating either team. Even though, we have a winning record againt the Broooins

Dermott is too much.
- Unholy_Goalie

Agree. We don't know how good this kid is yet. same for Lilegren. If McDonough was around the 23 age, then maybe. And I just don't see our brass trading first round picks. Rule #1 in a rebuild. Which we just started by the way.

No but he is wrong in saying Leafs have no chance of beating either team. Even though, we have a winning record againt the Broooins
- PatC80

we have a chance at beating them

where did he say we have no chance of beating them?

all you have to do is look at the standings
- twiztedmike

Leafs are 6th...huge underdogs. Probably won’t even score a goal.

Not everyone is as pessimistic about the playoffs as you seem to be. I think the Leafs could beat both Boston and Tampa. The odds and smart money might be against them, but stranger things have happened.

I hope you don't get defensive about my disagreement.
- BetterCallSaul

Yup.

1st + Timashov/Bracco + Carrick
- Steven_Seagull

and not the 1st unless the Leafs can re-sign him that would be a conditional 1st in 2019 not protected otherwise a 2nd rnd pick 2019 and 7th in 2020

are the Leafs a team McDo would goto? M-NTC.

Nope.
- Unholy_Goalie

Other than your own personal opinion, what are you basing that "nope" on? L.A won the Cup as the #8 seed not that long after your all time favorite team the 2011 Bruins did

it's time everyone stops being delusional
- twiztedmike

we have a chance at beating them

where did he say we have no chance of beating them?
- twiztedmike

Go back and read it's all there

Not everyone is as pessimistic about the playoffs as you seem to be. I think the Leafs could beat both Boston and Tampa. The odds and smart money might be against them, but stranger things have happened.

I hope you don't get defensive about my disagreement.
- BetterCallSaul

Good luck with that.

No but he is wrong in saying Leafs have no chance of beating either team. Even though, we have a winning record againt the Broooins
- PatC80

I never said they have no chance. But their chances aren't good and definitely not good enough to be making stupid deadline deals.

and not the 1st unless the Leafs can re-sign him that would be a conditional 1st in 2019 not protected otherwise a 2nd rnd pick 2019 and 7th in 2020

are the Leafs a team McDo would goto? M-NTC.
- dmnted

Fair enough


If he knows what’s best for him, he’ll listen to Lou.

Other than your own personal opinion, what are you basing that "nope" on? L.A won the Cup as the #8 seed not that long after your all time favorite team the 2011 Bruins did
- PatC80

Check the standings, the stats, basic hockey knowledge etc.

Do the Leafs play the way the LA Kings do? Probably not.

I never said they have no chance. But their chances aren't good and definitely not good enough to be making stupid deadline deals.
- Unholy_Goalie

Now you're loosening up on your stance? Hopefully, soon you'll come around.

I think leafs should go all in on Eric Karlsson
He’s Paul Coffey2

Leafs are one team that are loaded with prospects that can make this happen.

CORE

KARLSSON
NYLANDER*AND OR MARNER*
ANDERSON
MATTHEWS
HYMAN
REILLY
ZAITSEV
DERMOTT*
KADRI
MARLEAU
BROWN
KAPANEN*

Any could be part of Trade
Leafs still have a lot of prospects in ahl and in Europe that could join leafs

Didn’t mention jvr and bozak as we don’t know outcome tdl—long term may not be part of core

Check the standings, the stats, basic hockey knowledge etc.

Do the Leafs play the way the LA Kings do? Probably not.
- Unholy_Goalie

1. Tampa Bay
2. Boston

6. Toronto


Clearly we can’t compete.

guys UG is not wrong when he notes that Tampa and Boston are better than the Leafs right now
- twiztedmike

currently yes but the playoff are a different beast. look at Washington..
Great team but when's the last time they were in the SCF? Dale Hunter was playing on the team methinks.

we have a chance at beating them

where did he say we have no chance of beating them?
- twiztedmike

In about every MiB blog made since the Boston point streak this year. But it could go all the way back to 2011 playoffs.

reminder: everything i say is correct

Now you're loosening up on your stance? Hopefully, soon you'll come around.
- PatC80

I've never changed my stance. You're ability to understand the stance is what is changing.