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J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
A real upgrade for the D, which in my opinion is a second pair guy to allow Manning to sit and one of Amac or Hagg to play 3rd pair minutes is going to cost a 1st round pick.

Hexy has a very tough decision.

It’s not something he would have even considered giving up, but their recent play and with the year G and Jake are having I think it’s an option he must be considering now.

A veteran third pair defenseman to replace Manning is going to cost two mid round picks I’m guessing, like a 3rd and a 4th, and you may not improve all that much.

Tough tough call.

- Marc D


I don't know. i think you could get Oduya from Ottawa for cheap. Maybe they would even take someone like Leier for Oduya.

Oduya I think could slide right into the 3rd pairing and he has playoff experience and is a solid vet.


Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
Tough time to lose TK.
He has been playing like a young version of G recently.

- Marc D

I'm shocked. Shocked.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
Manning has been eating a lot of fists lately.
- MBFlyerfan


He's the NHL's version of a speed bag.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
I'm shocked. Shocked.
- Giroux_Is_God


He's day to day, and funeral services are pending.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:46 AM ET
No sign of Konecny at practice
- Doctor DOOM


Lehtera is not practicing either so we still have some good news.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Feb 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
He's day to day, and funeral services are pending.
- BiggE

S H O C K E D
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Feb 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Lehtera is not practicing either so we still have some good news.
- mickel25


Give him time, he's still walking to the ice from the locker room.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Give him time, he's still walking to the ice from the locker room.
- BiggE




Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:48 AM ET
Lehtera is not practicing either so we still have some good news.
- mickel25


Both traded for Evander Kane.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
If TK is hurt and Martel is called up and scores some goals and gets confident, maybe he goes on a V Leino type of SC run.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 21 @ 11:55 AM ET
shambles
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
I wouldn't be worried about Konecny until you see a call up
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Feb 21 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yup here's hoping for 11th pick
- Tfaehner

Does that also mean we can get their ball for the lottery and win it again and move to #2?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
If TK is hurt and Martel is called up and scores some goals and gets confident, maybe he goes on a V Leino type of SC run.
- Konalover

But of course.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:00 PM ET
Does that also mean we can get their ball for the lottery and win it again and move to #2?
- Konalover

Nope.. we would get it post drawing.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Personally I don't like Weal and Voracek together. Too much passing. Swap Raffl and Weal. Just my opinion.

They finally adjusted the PK! Looked great the last three games. If Konecny is out I am fine with it. This team will work through it. Next man up.

- mickel25


I agree. I like the idea of putting Lindblom with Voracek and Patrick. The way he drives the net only good things can happen with voracek and patrick feeding him. Plus that line would be almost impossible good with board battles.

Giroux-Couturier-Martel
Lindblom-Patrick-Voracek
Weal-Laughton-Raffl
Legion of Gloom

I would also love to see Sanheim back up for a bit in place of Manning. I get that Manning came back and played himself into the lineup, but he and Gudas are struggling. Bring Sanheim back up.

Provorov-Ghost
Hagg-AMac
Gudas-Sanheim
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Feb 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
I don't know. i think you could get Oduya from Ottawa for cheap. Maybe they would even take someone like Leier for Oduya.

Oduya I think could slide right into the 3rd pairing and he has playoff experience and is a solid vet.

- J35Bacher

Always liked that guy. Is he a UFA next year? I don’t think Hexy will trade for older guy with term left.

It would be an upgrade.

But enough to win a cup?

You need 4 really good D and a third pair that won’t get caved in limited minutes.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 21 @ 12:10 PM ET
This, a thousand times this. Hence why I don't think he would fare too well if we brought him up for the playoff run and playoffs as some have suggested. He was getting manhandled, especially down low.

10 lbs of muscle and some strength is all he really needs. That isn't even a difficult offseason training regimen, that is like, a just go to the gym three times a week because you are 21 type regimen.

I would however, think about Morin if he remains healthy.

- MBFlyerfan


I think he can improve with added strength, but I don't see it being necessary. He is bigger than plenty of guys, he just needs to learn.

Obviously I don't feel the play of Manning has been worth not letting Sanheim learn. The Flyers aren't in the position they are in right now because the Brandon Mannings are taking leaps in their development. The defense is missing what Sanheim brings too. It's been talked about a ton, so it's whatever, but I don't think it's a strength issue. We have seen on the Flyers guys like Kimmo and Ghost learn to play against NHL players without overpowering them.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
Does that also mean we can get their ball for the lottery and win it again and move to #2?
- Konalover

No. It's top 10 protected
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
everyone just calm the (frank) down.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Feb 21 @ 12:12 PM ET
Give him time, he's still walking to the ice from the locker room.
- BiggE

Lol
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:14 PM ET
I wouldn't be worried about Konecny until you see a call up
- YuenglingJagr


They'll just bump Weal, Raffl, and Weise up a line and put in Leier.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
i'm not worried about TK421 yet. YET.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Feb 21 @ 12:15 PM ET
Always liked that guy. Is he a UFA next year? I don’t think Hexy will trade for older guy with term left.
- Marc D



He will be a UFA after this season.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Feb 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
I think he can improve with added strength, but I don't see it being necessary. He is bigger than plenty of guys, he just needs to learn.

Obviously I don't feel the play of Manning has been worth not letting Sanheim learn. The Flyers aren't in the position they are in right now because the Brandon Mannings are taking leaps in their development. The defense is missing what Sanheim brings too. It's been talked about a ton, so it's whatever, but I don't think it's a strength issue. We have seen on the Flyers guys like Kimmo and Ghost learn to play against NHL players without overpowering them.

- YuenglingJagr


Anyone else absolutely loving the added physicality and snarl that Ghost has shown the second half of this season? He's not going to run guys like Brian Boyle over, but he's been dishing out some pretty good hits, and his overall defensive play has been outstanding.
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